How? By leaving the room and his kids unattended with a student who is causing a disturbance? The thing that we are told we can never, ever do? Teachers don't have parents' numbers on speed dial; he would have had to have had some way to get her out of the classroom and escort her to the office, which she refused to go along with, and it's not like he could have used any kind of force to do so. I guess he could have escorted all of his students out of the classroom at the same time and left her there, but it's really a no-win scenario for a teacher. When a kid figures out that there are really no consequences for them doing whatever they want, it's hell for a teacher, because they're right. I wish there was another avenue besides police, but these days, there really isn't.
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How? By leaving the room and his kids unattended with a student who is causing a disturbance? The thing that we are told we can never, ever do? Teachers don't have parents' numbers on speed dial; he would have had to have had some way to get her out of the classroom and escort her to the office, which she refused to go along with, and it's not like he could have used any kind of force to do so. I guess he could have escorted all of his students out of the classroom at the same time and left her there, but it's really a no-win scenario for a teacher. When a kid figures out that there are really no consequences for them doing whatever they want, it's hell for a teacher, because they're right. I wish there was another avenue besides police, but these days, there really isn't.
DontBeThatGuy
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So, you are a robot. Who built you?
Secret Fawful
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At this point, I'm convinced people would still defend the cop even if he picked her up by the hair and then slammed her over and over into the floor like Hulk going to town on Loki. Which also doesn't seem that far off from what he actually did.
Everybody has a bad day sometimes, it doesn't make them a bad person. Perhaps she's on the spectrum and was having a meltdown and the teacher didn't recognize it or know any better and assumed she was just trying to cause problems. A big part of being a good cop requires you to get on their level and develop some level of trust in order to find out the root of the problem.
Not immediately jump to pulling them out of their seat and sliding them across the floor into the wall.
NO! You don't just go around slamming people because they don't "listen" especially teen aged kids.
Again the officer has a history of this and now he's on paid leave. If this is code of conduct he wouldn't be on leave. and if this shit is supposed to be "normal" the police in America need to be retrained.
What he did was sick.
Because it required the instructor calling security to remove her from the classroom.
That's what she was doing when the cop arrived. Who knows what she was doing to make the instructor want her out of his class. Usually when it reaches that point, it means that class cannot function with her in it.
I wasn't aware of any of that. I'm just going by what's on the video.
Go to any public school in this country. Especially in poor neighborhoods. I have never seen anyone flung like that, but I have seen retired police officers tackle and restrain students.
I have seen a student physically assault the female principal at my school. During lunch a fight broke out, and a student hit her in the face on purpose.
This kind of shit happens every day in schools. I wonder how many people in this thread went to schools where students actively disrupt classes. I had this kind of stuff happen in classes until they started having separate Honors classes when I went into middle school.
Even in grade school, we had an elderly female 4th grade teacher pushed over by a student when he was asked to leave class.
andrerobot
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This story gave me a some sort of a Battle Royale vibe.
This is so wrong
This is so wrong
fallingdove
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Definitely excessive force but far from a loki smash.
SmackDaddy
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This is fucked up. Makes me sad.
It's also fucked up that I am starting to get in the camp of- just do what police officers say for the love of God.
That being said, this girl could have been a complete idiot before the video started. Classrooms can be brutal places- they broke my mom out of doing her teaching job. To a certain extent, kids that are going crazy will only react to violence if that's all that they know at home.
I love you GAF try to empathize with my response.
It's also fucked up that I am starting to get in the camp of- just do what police officers say for the love of God.
That being said, this girl could have been a complete idiot before the video started. Classrooms can be brutal places- they broke my mom out of doing her teaching job. To a certain extent, kids that are going crazy will only react to violence if that's all that they know at home.
I love you GAF try to empathize with my response.
Big Baybee
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As someone who has worked with teens for 8 years, shit like this is also easily avoidable. It's all about your approach and demeanor. looking at the video and prior reports about this officer, it's obvious he's just a power tripping asshole. So unnecessary.
Sorry, busy empathizing with the girl who got tossed around like a rag doll.
Man, from what I've read from you in this thread, you're like the pro-cop version of GG Allin.
Pretty sure excessive victim blaming without taking other people's opinions into account has gotten people banned before.
Big Baybee
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Fill out the complaint form
Yaphett Kotto
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???
Parents' numbers should be stored somewhere on the school's network. He shouldn't have to leave class. If not, the teacher can easily ask a student to retrieve the number from the main office or homeroom teacher if they have it. You also don't know what she did to disturb class which can be anything from talking to someone when the teacher is teaching to loud talking to anything. Being an disturbance doesn't mean the class will be in flames if the teacher was to leave.
I see no issue with it.
fallingdove
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Color has nothing to do with it. Stop trying to turn this into a race issue. It is unacceptable for any human being to be treated this way - but just because the cop is a shitty one doesn't absolve the girl of wrong doing.
Falcs
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Wow, if that happened in my school when I was a kid I would have grabbed whatever nearest blunt object I could find and smash it as hard as possible into that cop's head. I wouldn't care that I'd get my ass beat the shit out of by him (assuming I wasn't strong enough to knock him out). As an adult and now, I wouldn't because I'd fear getting shot or thrown in prison, but as a kid, I would definitely have attacked him.
There's no excuse for that kind of force on a child, and a girl too.
There's no excuse for that kind of force on a child, and a girl too.
fallingdove
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Do you honestly believe they called a cop for loud talking?
It's been one of those days where people are begging for it.
Chie Satonaka
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Cop has history of race related issues
Studies of people failing to see black kids as kids
"She's no angel"
No, it's not a racial issue at all.
I try not to reply to people who can't respond, but these consecutive statements just make my brain hurt. You can't just make up assumptions about what's going on and then state that you're only going by what's in the video.
Yaphett Kotto
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The teacher did the right thing. I don't believe the teacher expected the cop to go Rambo on the student. I would think bringing the police officer in would just be a means of getting the student to leave faster.
I don't understand arresting the student though for being disrespectful or insubordinate in class. I don't see how that should happen unless they are seriously attacking another student or faculty member.
I don't really know what that school is like though.
And sometimes it's not their first trip to the paddlin' yard.
They didn't mention in the article at all if the girl suffered any concussions from it, but I'd be legitimately shocked if she didn't. Both throws are incredibly brutal, and could have easily injured or killed her if something unfortunate happened. Completely unacceptable levels of violence for anyone, let alone a police officer who should be held to the highest standards.
I wonder what brought the cop to the school in the first place? It seems pretty surreal and disconnecting that a cop would be called in for a student that people are saying was very quiet.
Past experiences have taught me that the mods seem to draw a line between merely expressing a dissenting opinion from the majority of the thread, and using said opinion to actively antagonize the posters in the thread. The later seems to be why a lot of people get banned.
I wonder what brought the cop to the school in the first place? It seems pretty surreal and disconnecting that a cop would be called in for a student that people are saying was very quiet.
Past experiences have taught me that the mods seem to draw a line between merely expressing a dissenting opinion from the majority of the thread, and using said opinion to actively antagonize the posters in the thread. The later seems to be why a lot of people get banned.
The Incarnation
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Have you tagged in, now that the other three have tapped out?
But you're not one of the cop defenders so I'm not quite sure why you're piping up when I didn't direct the question towards you.
Yaphett Kotto
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Nah, I wasn't trying to say calling the cop was the wrong thing to do as I've seen people comply when cops were called to our classrooms in school and the cops were usually within a minute away. Even though it reads like I am against it from my last post.
Captin Quacker
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Holy cats first the blackface thread now this
did stormfront crash or somthing
did stormfront crash or somthing
Seductivpancakes
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Don't they have land line phones in the class rooms anymore?
SilentRacoon
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This makes me wanna cry, not even kids are safe from the hands of this savage fuckers, but I guess people should just ignore it and get over it...
Secret Fawful
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Cops get called in my town to the school off and on for little shit like that just to be a presence to get kids to settle down. In places like my town, maybe in all places I dunno, PDs and school administration have a close relationship, and cops are always getting involved in the school in some capacity. This cop, for instance, is involved in the school outside of being a cop, as a strength coach for the school's football team. Just because a cop got called doesn't mean the girl was a hardened, tommygun-toting threat, for crying out loud. Come on. There's no excuse for excessive force, especially not on a child.
old manatee
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I've been banned like 4 or 5 times for being an obnoxious fuckface and I'm always allowed back in a month or so. It's like being sent to the corner to think about what you've done.
Captin Quacker
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or send another student to the office
DontBeThatGuy
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Or you know, have one student go get the principal or anything along those lines. It's been done before, I can assure you.
They do. In my middle/high school if a kid is disrupting the class then the school security guard usually comes and takes the kid away from the class to the Dean's office and wait for their parents to come. Though if a kid is really disruptive or violent, the kid usually ends up getting pinned down by multiple security guards in the middle of class.
I do remember a scene in my school when a kid was caught stealing from another student and then he tried to run a security guard ended up tackling him to the ground and bunch of other guards came and dragged him away.
Gaf isn't the place to say what ever you want. If your opinions differs from the mods or majority, then good luck.
Hey now. We don't want anyone learning from their mistakes.
Mammoth Jones
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Nope. Nothing to see here folks. Since desegregations schools have been perfectly fine. Just fine...
We emphasize verbal judo at our training center. More and more I fear it is being overlooked in favor of technology by some agencies.
dynamitejim
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I like how the excuse is that she was "disrupting the class". Meanwhile, no one in the class bats an eye at her getting her desk violently flipped over with her in it and then getting tossed across the room. What the fuck could she have been doing that was more disruptive than that?
smh. Either you're not a person of color or you have no experiences with the police and its immediately apparent
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