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[Jonm1010]

so, we both agree that she escalated the situation and he defused the situation?

She shouldnt have grabbed the officer. Ive said that a million fucking times. Likewise he never should have slapped her and than punched her. It was excessive, unnecessary, and escalated the situation further than it needed to be. And his method of restraining her was unnecessary and excessive.

This entire thread has been an exercise of you making excuses for what is clear as day an unnecessary use of physical force by the police officer.

Youve come up with a million new rationalizations. From calling an obvious slap as a swat, to ignoring that he cold cocked her before even trying to restrain her. Its laughable to continue reading your pathetic attempts to justify this. At this point its clear your out to prove your pre-determined conclusion, not to assess the evidence and arguments and draw from there.

And its weird cause i'm not even one of those who thinks the officer should be arrested or kicked off the force. I think the guy made a very bad judgement call and let his anger get the best of him which contributed to handling a situation improperly. Yet people like you who are mouthpieces of excuses for cops bad behavior are the reason things never change in society. You dont better a wrong by just throwing up your hands and going "welp thats the way of things."

 

[The Faceless Master]

i'm definitely not one to be a glorious defender of the police, but calling incidents like this wrong just dilutes the calls against legitimate incidents of abuse.

 

[Jonm1010]

She grabbed his arm before she got slapped.

Why were the cops called in the first place? (never mind i see they were off duty)
Why was boba fett up in this piece????
Did they order the harvest grain pancakes??? Those are the bomb.

This is just so odd. Dude was really too ready to be manhandling a woman like that. Seriously he seemed really excited.

Yeah and in turn he could have:

A.) removed her arm and told she would be arrested.

B.) told the fellow officer to restrain her.

c.)restrained her himself.

he chose D.

D. Slap her.

A,B, or C would have been more appropriate solutions that would have put him in the right, instead he put himself in the wrong by physically assaulting the lady.

 

[Jonm1010]

i'm definitely not one to be a glorious defender of the police, but calling incidents like this wrong just dilutes the calls against legitimate incidents of abuse.

big or small a wrong is a wrong.

He slapped her, unnecessary given the wealth of alternatives he still had before reaching that level.

After she attacked back the fellow officer spreads them apart to which the attacking officer then steps back - she now is being held by the officer with her striking hand contained by him - to which the attacking officer cocks back and punches her.

 

[BlackClouds]

This video didn't end with the death of the policemen, so I'm disappointed.

 

[Takuan]

Both the cop and the woman were in the wrong, to some degree.

I agree with this. The slap was a strange response. Really, the cop attempting the rest should have requested his partner to step in, or the partner should have immediately attempted to block off the girl when she put her hand on him. It's too easy for us to break it down as observers, though, having the luxury to re-watch the events from multiple angles however many times we want and put each action under the microscope. The escalations happen in a 10-second span or so, and this is sad, but I just don't expect all cops to be calm and collected in hostile situations. No amount of classroom or textbook training can truly prepare an individual for the field. You might be able to recite protocol by heart, but it's difficult to predict how you will actually act when push comes to shove. You get in there, you make mistakes, and you get experience, and you learn - just like any other job.

The idea that every cop should be an infallible elite agent is admirable; I just don't believe these are realistic expectations for grunts.

 

[Shaka]

This video didn't end with the death of the policemen, so I'm disappointed.

smfh, some of you people are fucked in the head. I wonder if you would call the cops if a crime was committed against you since you hate cops so much?

 

[Dude Abides]

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

It seems like the most likely scenario. I'm glad we agree!

 

[dojokun]

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.



I know about the cop in Seattle and I saw the video of the NYPD tripping on the guy for making a joke. I've also seen the Rodney King video. What's your point? Some cops are assholes? I already fucking know that.

I never mocked the possibility of the cop being in the wrong. I said *IF* he is in the wrong, then you plead your case at the appropriate time and place. You don't try to get physical unless you want to escalate the situation (probably to your own physical detriment).

No, you clearly mocked the possibility that the cop was in the wrong:

Yeah I'm sure the cop just decided to pick out a random person and pry them from their table for no reason at all. Cops gotta entertain themselves too, I suppose.

And yes, Boba Fett, a guy who says "that's fucking ridiculous", and the gaggle of ornery women are certainly a credible bunch who combine to form an airtight case of assault against the officer. Clearly.

As for the rest of this post of yours ^, please answer my questions about witnesses. What makes those witnesses not credible? Who would you consider to be a credible witness? Are there any credible witnesses saying anything in favor of the cop?

 

[G-Fex]

that fuckin cop shouldn't have put his hands in her face and her dumb ass should know better then to put her hands on a cop......... should have just arrested her for obstruction.

now hes going to get what he deserves....no matter how much of a bitch she is you dont punch her in the face

 

[Byakuya769]

The :lol was for:

1. Your questionable use of semantics when you essentially did the same thing, only more so, in your next post

Proved that you were wrong with this assertion already. Next.

That someone stating that perhaps it isn't so productive to do a citizen's reverse arrest is evidence of "the conditioning of the police state."

You're reading a lot into what was said, while ignoring various other things explicitly stated. Your brother in arms suggested that its unbelievable that anyone would side with the woman. Now we can reasonably infer that to mean that she was wrong to hit the police officer. This didn't become a discussion about efficacy until you tried to make it one.

Trashy people physically assault cops.

No, criminals and people who believe they are being unfairly and unlawfully detain may opt to assault a cop. Can we read "trashy" to mean lower class and/or ethnic? Just curious.

TrashyNot because cops are godly figures, or because they are always in the right. It's because physically assaulting a beat cop over an "unjust" arrest (and let's face it, based on the behavior in this particular video, these seem like the people who would normally show up on an episode of Cops) is stupid.

That last statement provides the answer to my earlier question.... They seemed more like the normal clientele of Ihop in a large city on a late night during the weekend. In my experience, some of these people are loud, but rarely are they doing anything extraordinary or intrusive.

Even if we take a hypothetical situation where the arrest actually is unjust, attempting to interfere with the lowliest grunts of the justice system is nothing but counterproductive, unless you're just attempting to act the provocateur and intentionally get a violent reaction in hopes of either de-legitimizing all state authority or to cash in on a lawsuit. If you're anti-war, would you say that physically assaulting soldiers about to deploy is the most constructive use of your energies?

Who in this thread is discussion the efficacy of what she did (save you)? The discussion seems more centered on just and unjust treatment, believe it or not.. that's not always defined by the law or granted authorities; though pending our finding out why he was trying to detain the first girl, it won't surprise me when this is shown to be a misuse of both. The revelation may surprise you, but I guess you haven't had the luxury of being harassed for driving a nice car or pulling into your neighborhood while looking a certain way.

By the way, I'm against the death penalty, not for moral "murder is wrong" reasons, but because I believe the justice system is too incompetent to execute the correct person with any degree of certainty. But that doesn't mean I'd go around attacking detectives who are about to make murder 1 arrests, even if I had that ability. I certainly don't worship the state, but being reflexively rah-rah towards any show of defiance against government authority doesn't make someone any better than someone who does the opposite.

1. So.
2. Not an analogous situation at all. In your example, you feel that officers may have made a mistake, the girl felt that the officer was harassing her friend/acquaintance with no cause. Not quite the same thing.

 

[wetwired]

I had a quick skim through the thread and couldn't find it, apologies if it's already been posted but here's Boba Fett himself's response.

 

[dojokun]

I had a quick skim through the thread and couldn't find it, apologies if it's already been posted but here's Boba Fett himself's response.

So the justification for the arrest was asking the girls to leave... why did he ask him to leave? Maybe he felt they were harassing Boba Fett I guess.

 

[Satyamdas]

No, you clearly mocked the possibility that the cop was in the wrong:

I said it is not very likely that a cop would just go up to a random person and start prying them from their seats for no reason at all. I did this through sarcasm.

As for the rest of this post of yours ^, please answer my questions about witnesses. What makes those witnesses not credible? Who would you consider to be a credible witness? Are there any credible witnesses saying anything in favor of the cop?

Let's see what Boba Fett actually has to say, shall we?

Well what do ya know? The cop asked the lady to leave "NICELY". He didn't just pick her out at random and attack. Looks like my mocking of your hypothesis was spot on.

 

[dojokun]

I said it is not very likely that a cop would just go up to a random person and start prying them from their seats for no reason at all. I did this through sarcasm.


Let's see what Boba Fett actually has to say, shall we?

Well what do ya know? The cop asked the lady to leave "NICELY". He didn't just pick her out at random and attack. Looks like my mocking of your hypothesis was spot on.

Wait, so first you mock it before Boba Fett's video was posted here, and then you say you didn't mock it, and now that his video is posted, you use hindsight to say your mocking of it was spot on, even though you obviously did not know of the video at the time of your mocking?

 

[Satyamdas]

Wait, so first you say you didn't mock it, and now you say your mocking of it was spot on?

I never said that it wasn't possible that the cop decided to fuck with some people for funsies. I said it wasn't very likely. If you want to worry about whether your hypothesis was mocked or not, be my guest. My only point was that it was not likely and ridiculously speculative.

 

[Lamel]

Reading through this thread, there are a lot of bitter people on GAF, more so lately. Jeez.

 

[dojokun]

I never said that it wasn't possible that the cop decided to fuck with some people for funsies. I said it wasn't very likely. If you want to worry about whether your hypothesis was mocked or not, be my guest. My only point was that it was not likely and ridiculously speculative.

Not being true and not being likely are two different things. And second, you actually mocked the idea of Boba Fett being a credible witness, and now you're using his testimony to say you were right.

Yeah I'm sure the cop just decided to pick out a random person and pry them from their table for no reason at all. Cops gotta entertain themselves too, I suppose.

And yes, Boba Fett, a guy who says "that's fucking ridiculous", and the gaggle of ornery women are certainly a credible bunch who combine to form an airtight case of assault against the officer. Clearly.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.



I know about the cop in Seattle and I saw the video of the NYPD tripping on the guy for making a joke. I've also seen the Rodney King video. What's your point? Some cops are assholes? I already fucking know that.

I never mocked the possibility of the cop being in the wrong. I said *IF* he is in the wrong, then you plead your case at the appropriate time and place. You don't try to get physical unless you want to escalate the situation (probably to your own physical detriment).

I said it is not very likely that a cop would just go up to a random person and start prying them from their seats for no reason at all. I did this through sarcasm.


Let's see what Boba Fett actually has to say, shall we?

Well what do ya know? The cop asked the lady to leave "NICELY". He didn't just pick her out at random and attack. Looks like my mocking of your hypothesis was spot on.

So first you mock the idea of the cop being in the wrong. Then you deny it. Hypocrisy. Then later you say your mocking of it was spot on. Double hypocrisy.

Also, you mock the idea of Boba Fett being a credible witness when Boba Fett first said the girls didn't do anything. Then later Boba Fett contradicts himself by releasing a video sqying they were loud and refused to leave, and then you come back and cite his video as proof that your mocking was spot on. Third example of your hypocrisy.

 

[Satyamdas]

Not being true and not being likely are two different things. And second, you actually mocked the idea of Boba Fett being a credible witness, and now you're using his testimony to say you were right.

And you used Boba Fett to implicate the cop earlier. So we were both off. But at least I didn't accuse him of something without having any evidence.

Dude, that is not mocking the possibility that the cop was wrong. That is mocking *you* for acting as if that is evidence that the cop chose someone at random to pry from their seat with no reason at all.

 

[Neuromancer]

This video didn't end with the death of the policemen, so I'm disappointed.

Real classy

 

[dojokun]

And you used Boba Fett to implicate the cop earlier. So we were both off. But at least I didn't accuse him of something without having any evidence.

Dude, that is not mocking the possibility that the cop was wrong. That is mocking *you* for acting as if that is evidence that the cop chose someone at random to pry from their seat with no reason at all.

Now you argue semantics to try to weasel your way out of the three examples of hypocrisy I pointed out above. You mocked me for bringing up a possibility and saying that at that point time it seemed prudent to give benefit of the doubt to the girls. I never even said it was proof that he was wrong, and never accused him. Again you are arguing semantics to cover your hypocrisy. You even admitted in an earlier post that you mocked my "hypothesis."

I said it is not very likely that a cop would just go up to a random person and start prying them from their seats for no reason at all. I did this through sarcasm.


Let's see what Boba Fett actually has to say, shall we?

Well what do ya know? The cop asked the lady to leave "NICELY". He didn't just pick her out at random and attack. Looks like my mocking of your hypothesis was spot on.

 

[Satyamdas]

Now you argue semantics to try to weasel your way out of the three examples of hypocrisy I pointed out above.

How is it semantics? Stop crying long enough to read and you will see what nonsense you have been spouting.

Well according to the video from Boba Fett, Boba Fett says the girls didn't do anything to deserve getting arrested.

Also, according to the girls, they didn't do anything, the cop didn't identify himself as a cop, nor say why he was arresting them.

Also consider that all the comments audible in the videos favored the girls. Comments like "That's fucking ridiculous" (which I interpreted to refer to the cop wrestling the girl to the ground).

We don't know the facts, but so far the available information leads me to give more benefit of the doubt to the girls.

You are making the case that the girl was being attacked randomly, and using evidence such as "the girls said ____", and "the audible comments favored the girls" to back up your assertion.

Yeah I'm sure the cop just decided to pick out a random person and pry them from their table for no reason at all. Cops gotta entertain themselves too, I suppose.

And yes, Boba Fett, a guy who says "that's fucking ridiculous", and the gaggle of ornery women are certainly a credible bunch who combine to form an airtight case of assault against the officer. Clearly.

I'm using sarcasm to register that I find it highly unlikely that a cop would just pick someone out at random and assault them for fun. I'm also making fun of your "evidence". Notice that I never said it wasn't possible the cop was just being a dick. It is possible. But the likelihood of that being the case is very low. And which of us was right??

 

[Dude Abides]

So what crime do we think the first girl was engaged in that warranted her arrest?

 

[dojokun]

How is it semantics? Stop crying long enough to read and you will see what nonsense you have been spouting.


You are making the case the the girl was being attacked randomly, and using evidence such as "the girls said ____", and "the audible comments favored the girls" to back up your assertion.


I'm using sarcasm to register that I find it highly unlikely that a cop would just pick someone out at random and assault them for fun. I'm also making fun of your "evidence". Notice that I never said it wasn't possible the cop was just being a dick. It is possible. But the likelihood of that being the case is very low. And which of us was right??

Like I pointed out in my previous post, you admitted to mocking my hypothesis.

And I don't get where you see that I "asserted" that the cop was wrong. I was saying that the evidence available (which did not include the video of Boba Fett talking at the time, and therefore could not be logically included in the thinking process) was leaning towards the girls.

Simply read my post for what it is, not what you want it to be. You'll see that I never eaid the cop was in the wrong. I said the evidence was leaning that way, which it was at the time.

Now with the new video, we have Boba Fett contradicting himself from the first video he was in. But either way, you mocked him as being credible. Now you cite him as proof. Hypocrisy.

And we still don't know if the cop was right or wrong considering Boba Fett's self-contradiction and the issue that even if he is telling the truth in second video, the cop is not necessarily justified in how he handled it. Oddly enough, even Boba Fett said he wouldn't say who was right and who was wrong.

 

[Satyamdas]

Like I pointed out in my previous post, you admitted to mocking my hypothesis.

And I don't get where you see that I "asserted" that the cop was wrong. I was saying that the evidence available (which did not include the video of Boba Fett talking at the time, and therefore could not be logically included in the thinking process) was leaning towards the girls.

Simply read my post for what it is, not what you want it to be. You'll see that I never eaid the cop was in the wrong. I said the evidence was leaning that way, which it was at the time.

Now with the new video, we have Boba Fett contradicting himself from the first video he was in. But either way, you mocked him as being credible. Now you cite him as proof. Hypocrisy.

And we still don't know if the cop was right or wrong considering Boba Fett's self-contradiction and the issue that even if he is telling the truth in second video, the cop is not necessarily justified in how he handled it. Oddly enough, even Boba Fett said he wouldn't say who was right and who was wrong.

Did you forget that you posted this??

So the cop was feeling up two girls a the start of the video... one of which was very pretty. His body inching closer, they resist. He grabs. He pulls. Don't they know they are supposed to succumb to his every wish? His every urge? His every fantasy? Especially the pretty one.

Then a third female appears, supple and ripe for the taking, and gives him exactly what he wants--an excuse to manhandle her. Oh does he love his opportunity. He strikes her, asserting his dominance. He puts his hands all over her... touching... grabbing... squeezing... but she can't overcome him. He overcomes her. He wrestles her to the ground. He wants her on her back. Down on the floor with her, he rubs his body on her... restraining her... enjoying her...

Putting handcuffs on her, she can't resist him now. He leads his conquered woman away, where she will have to do exactly as he says.



Nope. No abuse there.

 

[dojokun]

I'll post this again in case you missed it:

Yeah I'm sure the cop just decided to pick out a random person and pry them from their table for no reason at all. Cops gotta entertain themselves too, I suppose.

And yes, Boba Fett, a guy who says "that's fucking ridiculous", and the gaggle of ornery women are certainly a credible bunch who combine to form an airtight case of assault against the officer. Clearly.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.



I know about the cop in Seattle and I saw the video of the NYPD tripping on the guy for making a joke. I've also seen the Rodney King video. What's your point? Some cops are assholes? I already fucking know that.

I never mocked the possibility of the cop being in the wrong. I said *IF* he is in the wrong, then you plead your case at the appropriate time and place. You don't try to get physical unless you want to escalate the situation (probably to your own physical detriment).

I said it is not very likely that a cop would just go up to a random person and start prying them from their seats for no reason at all. I did this through sarcasm.


Let's see what Boba Fett actually has to say, shall we?

Well what do ya know? The cop asked the lady to leave "NICELY". He didn't just pick her out at random and attack. Looks like my mocking of your hypothesis was spot on.

So first you mock the idea of the cop being in the wrong. Then you deny it. Hypocrisy. Then later you say your mocking of it was spot on. Double hypocrisy.

Also, you mock the idea of Boba Fett being a credible witness when Boba Fett first said the girls didn't do anything. Then later Boba Fett contradicts himself by releasing a video sqying they were loud and refused to leave, and then you come back and cite his video as proof that your mocking was spot on. Third example of your hypocrisy.

 

[dojokun]

Did you forget that you posted this??

So the cop was feeling up two girls a the start of the video... one of which was very pretty. His body inching closer, they resist. He grabs. He pulls. Don't they know they are supposed to succumb to his every wish? His every urge? His every fantasy? Especially the pretty one.

Then a third female appears, supple and ripe for the taking, and gives him exactly what he wants--an excuse to manhandle her. Oh does he love his opportunity. He strikes her, asserting his dominance. He puts his hands all over her... touching... grabbing... squeezing... but she can't overcome him. He overcomes her. He wrestles her to the ground. He wants her on her back. Down on the floor with her, he rubs his body on her... restraining her... enjoying her...

Putting handcuffs on her, she can't resist him now. He leads his conquered woman away, where she will have to do exactly as he says.



Nope. No abuse there.

LMAO. You are using my joke post full of porn fiction as evidence that I was seriously claiming the cop was in the wrong? You were responding to a completely different post when you said I claimed the cop was in the wrong. So you go back in even further in the thread and pull up a joke post you never responded to before. Are you fucking serious? I don't know of anyone else in this thread that couldn't recognize that post as a joke.

 

[Satyamdas]

So first you mock the idea of the cop being in the wrong. Then you deny it. Hypocrisy. Then later you say your mocking of it was spot on. Double hypocrisy.

Also, you mock the idea of Boba Fett being a credible witness when Boba Fett first said the girls didn't do anything. Then later Boba Fett contradicts himself by releasing a video sqying they were loud and refused to leave, and then you come back and cite his video as proof that your mocking was spot on. Third example of your hypocrisy.

LOL, all these words and quotes just because your idiotic assumptions proved false. I mocked you, I made hypocritical statements, I was wrong about Boba Fett. But at least I am not a judgmental accusatory prick like you are. And I can also let go when I am wrong.

 

[Mockingbird]

Girl deserved it plus more. She needed a back-hand from reality and the guy delivered.

 

[SolarPowered]

I saw the video and figured that the thread has run it's course and was ready to die, but here it still is. I guess I'll just post my response since I'm pretty shocked by the whole thing.

She was extremely dumb for taking the situation and escalating it. The whole thing might have ended without any extra drama had she let the cops do their job with the other woman who was resisting arrest(without swinging at anyone so far). It definitely seems like this particular cop hasn't had many confrontations and was not sure how to deal with someone becoming physical with him though.

I have a lot of experience with cops in shelters and I've had to call them dozens of times for cases where people were getting too excited and I've never EVER seen any of our clients lay a hand on the police and these cases would involve men who have a record(and are even drunk to boot). I myself would seriously never even touch a cop seeing as I may be eating a lot more than a slap from the very start of the confrontation.

In short, he handled it improperly at first, but he certainly made the right call once she started swinging and she was EXTREMELY stupid for getting physical with a cop whether or not she was drunk(she looked drunk). She was probably expecting a slap on the wrist if she thought she could get physical with a cop in any shape or form and the outcome did not work in her favor at all. She gets no special treatment once she tugs or swings at one of them.

The rest I am about to post is only speculation so I would not use this against the cop in particular

The way he handled her with that slap seemed to imply that he wanted her to just back off and intimidation is not the way it should have been handled. She should have been restrained with massive force swiftly without the blows which is what the cops in my part of town would do with a woman who is smaller than them. I can only speculate as to what he would have done past the slap, but the slap makes it seem like he wanted her only to back off without arresting her and it doesn't sit right with me that a cop gets to intimidate someone physically. These are only my thoughts though.

 

[The Faceless Master]

So what crime do we think the first girl was engaged in that warranted her arrest?

disturbing the peace apparently, at least that's what i get from boba fett's response.

 

[Vilam]

I had a quick skim through the thread and couldn't find it, apologies if it's already been posted but here's Boba Fett himself's response.

"Bitch, get a job"

lol, Boba Fett is awesome... I hope this guy gets on a reality TV show or something thanks to this.

 

[dojokun]

LOL, all these words and quotes just because your idiotic assumptions proved false. I mocked you, I made hypocritical statements, I was wrong about Boba Fett. But at least I am not a judgmental accusatory prick like you are. And I can also let go when I am wrong.

All I said was the evidence was leaning to the girls. You feel the need to defend the cop against my mere statement that the evidence leaned against him, even though I asserted that we didn't have all the facts. Boba Fett goes back and contradicts himself and you try to use him to say I'm wrong, even though you mocked him earlier as not being a credible witness. But in order to do that I would have to have said the cop was wrong, which I didn't say, except for the post that is obviously a porn fiction joke that everyone else in this thread recognized as such right away. Instead of admitting that I never actually claimed the cop was wrong, you searched back through the thread and quoted the porn fiction joke in some desperate attempt to avoid admitting that you were wrong about if I had claimed the cop was wrong. Now you claim you can let go when you're wrong, when all of your actions prove otherwise.

 

[Satyamdas]

In Boba Fett's video, at the very beginning, you will notice the second police officer is trying to get the attention of the arresting cop. That is his hand on the right tapping on the arresting cop's back. The fact that the second cop was trying to get the first cop's attention at the very beginning (before the other girl got punched) indicates that the second cop was not okay with what the first cop was doing. To me, that speaks volumes about whether or not the arrest was justified to begin with.

I like how now your tune is "The evidence just leaned toward the girls", when earlier in the thread you were basically convicting the guy of wrongful arrest based on that same "evidence".

 

[dojokun]

I like how now your tune is "The evidence just leaned toward the girls", when earlier in the thread you were basically convicting the guy of wrongful arrest based on that same "evidence".

No, that's still not the same as saying I'm sure he is wrong. It's saying the evidence leans farther. And you weren't even replying to that post when you initially said I was asserting that the cop was wrong.

You said you could let go. Guess not. You're still searching the thread for my posts to argue with me. That's not letting go.

 

[Satyamdas]

No, that's still not the same as saying I'm sure he is wrong. It's saying the evidence leans farther.

And you said you could let go. Guess not. You're still searching the thread for my posts to argue with me. That's not letting go.

I said I can let go when I'm wrong. I'm not wrong right now.

 

[MWS Natural]

I had a quick skim through the thread and couldn't find it, apologies if it's already been posted but here's Boba Fett himself's response.

Contradictory statetments by Bobba Fett. In his first video he says the, "girls did nothing." Now he is saying that they did do something...

 

[dojokun]

I said I can let go when I'm wrong. I'm not wrong right now.

Obviously you are. You have contradicted yourself multiple times already.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Contradictory statetments by Bobba Fett. In his first video he says the, "girls did nothing." Now he is saying that they did do something...

i think what he means is they did nothing as in he didn't care that they were calling him g.i.joe and other stuff, but they actually did something in the eyes of the law.

 

[Quixzlizx]

drivel

Are you expecting me to argue with someone whose argument consists of declaring victory in the middle of a debate and passive-aggressively calling me naive and a racist? If you want to respond again without sounding like a condescending dipshit, let me know.

 

[Miggytronz]

i think what he means is they did nothing as in he didn't care that they were calling him g.i.joe and other stuff, but they actually did something in the eyes of the law.

this.

Also read in a statement released by the officers (i dont have the source and i should have copied it) that those women were being loud and disorderly. The cops asked them to keep it down and quiet. Well one of them started blabbing about being a Criminal Justice Major and she knew the law and the cops couldnt do shit. The cops had enough of her being loud and disorderly and asked her to leave. She refused and well came about the start of the 1st video.

According Officer J. Vidal's narrative from that night — or, rather, early Saturday morning; just before 3 a.m. — the kerfuffle began when the women wouldn't shut up. He says he heard Cynthia Freeman — the woman whose collar he's clutching at the beginning of the video — yelling in the booth behind where he was standing, so he asked her to be quiet or leave. According to Vidal, Freeman refused, and told him that she's a criminal justice major and is familiar with the law.

"She stated that this is a public place and she knows her first amendment rights," Vidal wrote in his report, "I advised her that IHOP is private property and that I am employed by IHOP. I also advised her that she would have to leave the property if she continued to keep yelling. Ms. Freeman stated that she knew the law and wasn’t going anywhere. Ms. [Roberta] Caban [told me] to get out of her face."

Again i dont have Source

 

[Pre]

Don't touch a police officer, especially when he's making an arrest. Just don't do it. It's not that hard.

But if I ever did try and stop a police offer there's is borderline no question I could

You have fun with that.

 

[Byakuya769]

Are you expecting me to argue with someone whose argument consists of declaring victory in the middle of a debate and passive-aggressively calling me naive and a racist? If you want to respond again without sounding like a condescending dipshit, let me know.

U mad.

 

[Salazar]

You have fun with that.

Dude has big arms. He'd be better at resisting than I would.

Perhaps he should start with a special constable, though, and work up.