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Cops smell weed, forcefully search woman's vagina...

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oneils said:
What they will argue is that the complainant agreed to the search voluntarily. The complainant's attorney seems to think he has a good case to refute this, though. It is a pretty fucked up situation. Just awful.
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From the way they quote her "concent," it sounds like she was speaking in usual, conversational exaggeration and they are trying to twist it into consent. They quote her as saying "you can strip me down."

To me, that sounds like the context would be

Officer: "Do you have any weed in the vehicle?"
Woman: "No, I swear to god, you can strip me down, there's no weed in here."

Now, granted, the woman was lying, but I seriously doubt she meant "yes, I consent to you forcibly penetrating my vagina" when she said 'you can strip me down."
 
They found half a gram of weed?

Are they for real. Just legalize and tax the shit out of it already, my god. Raise taxes on alcohol while you're at it as well.
 
I'm seriously so glad to live in a country where a cop can say they smelled weed, then get your cavity searched
 
What's really bewildering is how her testimony seems to basically match the police report. There were two female officers conducting the search, one black and one white. So it isn't like this thing that was covered up. The police seemed to all really think this was okay.

Agree that if it was deemed necessary to go to such lengths to find it (which maybe there's an argument for since they found some), it should have been done at the police station in a clean and private environment.
 
.02 concealed grams shouldn't even be a citation or warning.

To fucking sexually assault someone is terrible enough, but over that?

Fuck right off.
 
Ugh.

Kind of shocked anyone would bother hiding that little weed in their vagina. Was it there or did they find a roach in her car or something ?
 
flatearthpandas said:
What's really bewildering is how her testimony seems to basically match the police report. There were two female officers conducting the search, one black and one white. So it isn't like this thing that was covered up. The police seemed to all really think this was okay.

Agree that if it was deemed necessary to go to such lengths to find it (which maybe there's an argument for since they found some), it should have been done at the police station in a clean and private environment.
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Nope. Legalize it.
 
speculawyer said:
Wait...cops do something when they smell weed?

Where is this? Unless you are driving cops do nothing where I live.

Edit: Black woman in Texas. Oh. I see.
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Just about half of the times I've been in a car that was pulled over by a cop, they told us it smelled like weed and tried to/did search the car. I have no doubt that had they actually smelled, they would 100% search.

Just a bullshit, incredibly abused policy.
 
Verelios said:
Brah, even if there was a keg of cocaine down there, officers do not have the right to physically search you. Especially without a warrant.
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You're right, but How does this work anyway?

How do you get the right authority to search a person's privates?

I'm curious how it's done now. I assume people smuggle drugs in their butt, so how does someone get that searched legally?
 
Bowler said:
By hiding the pot in her vajayjay when she had such a small amount that if she just handed it over we wouldn't be talking about this?
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This is where the concept of disproportionate response comes into play. What she did was wrong, but does not mean she deserved to be sexually assaulted.
 
Kenak said:
This is where the concept of disproportionate response comes into play. What she did was wrong, but does not mean she deserved to be sexually assaulted.
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I agree with you. That said, what should the proportionate response be when an officer smells weed and sees an offender stuff the drugs in their vaginal/anal cavity? Would this have been assault if they brought her into the station and searched her there?
 
You can't do any form of a cavity search, or a strip search, in the public space. If what she says if true, then it was an illegal search.
LeroyPantwether said:
Would this have been assault if they brought her into the station and searched her there?
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No, that would have been lawful assuming they had cause and a supervisor's approval.
 
LeroyPantwether said:
I agree with you. That said, what should the proportionate response be when an officer smells weed and sees an offender stuff the drugs in their vaginal/anal cavity? Would this have been assault if they brought her into the station and searched her there?
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Is this hypothetical because I'm not seeing any info that the weed was actually in her vagina?
 
Infinite said:
Just let her go.
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In all instances, or just when the suspicion is marijuana?

Patrol said:
You can't do any form of a cavity search, or a strip search, in the public space. If what she says if true, then it was an illegal search.

No, that would have been lawful assuming they had cause and a supervisor's approval.
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That makes sense

hwalker84 said:
Is this hypothetical because I'm not seeing any info that the weed was actually in her vagina?
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Hypothetical, for the sake of nurturing a broad discussion on the ethics of cavity searches.
 
On one hand, not legal in Texas.



On the other, what the fucking fuck?

Jesus Christ, in whichever article I read it referenced a white dude taking a selfie with an officer that got him for weed. Luckily she's alive and will get no charges. But again... What the fuck? Forced vaginal search in public!?
 
https://newyorklegaldefense.com/when-can-police-conduct-body-cavity-searches/

If police go through the proper procedures to obtain a search warrant that authorize a body cavity search, the search will be presumed legal.
When a court considers whether to issue a warrant that authorizes a body cavity search, the judge typically weighs:
The reasonableness of invading a suspect’s body to search for evidence of a crime, and
The state’s interest in obtaining evidence of the crime.
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I don't think this search came anywhere near these qualifiers
 
This is fucking horrible, how can you have someone on the side of the road naked while searching them for...Fucking weed!?

Jesus, there's so many fucked up layers to this, and I'm damn sure skin color is one of them.
 
Like what's the cop's logic? She was smoking in the car, he puts her in his cruiser, searches her car, finds nothing, by jove she must have put the blunt up her vagina, this demands immediate search in public, since it's such a dangerous drug!
 
Odor should not be probable cause. There is no way to prove that the probable cause actually existed. Cops can just wave their hand and say "I smell weed" and suddenly they are given legal search and seizure privileges? Billshit. I don't trust cops to have that kind of unchecked power.
 
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