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Could Mario Maker Save the Wii U?
- Thread starter uncleslappy
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silver.tongue
Member
No.
But seriously, what do people mean when they say "save"? It has good games. It just never sold great numbers.
But seriously, what do people mean when they say "save"? It has good games. It just never sold great numbers.
Lord Azrael
Member
I can't believe I'm still seeing a thread titled "Will ______ save the Wii U?" in 2015.
DownGrader
Member
Define "save".
The console has plenty of great games, and Super Mario Maker will be one of them. It will be fondly remembered by Nintendo fans. It has even probably started new big Nintendo franchise, Splatoon, which will only get more and more popular with next installments. In terms of first-party games, Wii U doesn't need "saving".
But, financially, Wii U is busted and can't be recovered, and it seems Nintendo realise that and started to move on onto the next thing. To be honest, it's pretty impressive how a stationary console with no big games from both Western and Japanese third parties hit 10 mln, but it's obvious that it's not the situation Nintendo wanted to be in - especially after riding a golden train with the Wii.
For me, Nintendo is reminiscent of 90s Sega right now, with Wii being a Mega Drive/Genesis and Wii U being a Saturn. Let's hope NX/whatever comes out after Wii will be like Dreamcast, save for company going out of the market - but it won't probably happen since Nintendo still has a lot of profitable products (3DS, amiibo) and it surely didn't have as much flopped products as Sega.
The console has plenty of great games, and Super Mario Maker will be one of them. It will be fondly remembered by Nintendo fans. It has even probably started new big Nintendo franchise, Splatoon, which will only get more and more popular with next installments. In terms of first-party games, Wii U doesn't need "saving".
But, financially, Wii U is busted and can't be recovered, and it seems Nintendo realise that and started to move on onto the next thing. To be honest, it's pretty impressive how a stationary console with no big games from both Western and Japanese third parties hit 10 mln, but it's obvious that it's not the situation Nintendo wanted to be in - especially after riding a golden train with the Wii.
For me, Nintendo is reminiscent of 90s Sega right now, with Wii being a Mega Drive/Genesis and Wii U being a Saturn. Let's hope NX/whatever comes out after Wii will be like Dreamcast, save for company going out of the market - but it won't probably happen since Nintendo still has a lot of profitable products (3DS, amiibo) and it surely didn't have as much flopped products as Sega.
dampflokfreund
Banned
No, because it looks like a low budget Indie game. Nothing exciting.
I strongly disagree. In terms of first party its the worst Nintendo console ever for me. No F-Zero, no Metroid, no exclusive Zelda, no Paper Mario... the list goes on and on.
I strongly disagree. In terms of first party its the worst Nintendo console ever for me. No F-Zero, no Metroid, no exclusive Zelda, no Paper Mario... the list goes on and on.
Crankshaft
Member
I am really excited about Mario Maker and I have been tempted to buy a Wii U for a while now....BUT.... I am waiting for more news on the NX.
The 3DS is on its way out, too.
clevbrowns94
Member
Then at least it would have lived, even if only for a little while.
DownGrader
Member
So does Minecraft, though. Never underestimate people's will to be creative... and, in this case, the power of "2D Mario" brand.
It still won't save the Wii U.
Spieler Eins
Member
Only if it comes with a time machine, which firstly cancels Nintendoland and New Mario Bros. U and instead makes Mario Maker the pack-in game at launch, with Splatoon launching in the same month and then gives Nintendo a couple of years of HD experience.
My first thought. The WiiU was already canned internally. They'll take a few remaining profits from this title and Splatoon and then leave it be.
My first thought. The WiiU was already canned internally. They'll take a few remaining profits from this title and Splatoon and then leave it be.
Supermanisdead
Member
no of course not
pinkurocket
Member
It won't save it, but it's a great title to keep Nintendo's image positive and somewhat relevant in gaming circles, which will hopefully help for their future console's release.
I think it will sell in two million units in the first year and sell through at least a million combined w digital sales.
I don't think that is overestimating.
@OP
No. Wii U was dead when they started talking about the NX publicly and to shareholders. We will be lucky if the NX has BC w. Wii U. It is more likely to have BC w 3ds if they go ARM APU.
I sure as shit won't be fondly remembering this console. I'll fondly remember Splatoon and Smash Bros, but I won't miss playing them on a console that felt outdated from the day it launched. I'll remember the couple of great games it had, but I'll also remember the huge droughts between them.
What about the 3DS?
PancakeAlmighty
Member
Why is it whenever something actually comes out for Wii U we always have the "Can X save Wii U" thread?. If smash and Mario Kart can't save it nothing can.
SporeCrawler
Member
it will do quite well, like splatoon, smash and mario kart before. but it will not save it. i think nintendo should have cut the price last year (with smash) if they wanted WiiU to be competitive.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I love my wii u and mario maker looks stellar, but it's clear from E3 that nintendo have no interest in the herculean task of saving the wii u and are focusing on the nx.
Buddha Beam
Banned
Sure it could, insofar as any game can potentially be a system selling game that propels a console's sales and popularity into the stratosphere.
However, it's really unlikely.
However, it's really unlikely.
LSauchelli
Member
I think it would've saved it, had it launched with the system.
As it is, it's mostly the one thing keeping it alive a few more months.
As it is, it's mostly the one thing keeping it alive a few more months.
SuperBowser
Member
the console is in rigor mortis.
let it be.
let it be.
E the Shaggy
Junior Member
DownGrader
Member
But it's not like they are going to abandon it any time soon, and I believe it will be supported a few more years after the next portable comes out, just like GBA and DS.
Wii U, though, will be abandoned pretty much instantly... just like GameCube and Wii.
And now "Firing Iwata" makes me really sad again.
Petrae
Member
Its fate was sealed at least a year ago. WiiU was never going to be "saved"; there are too many problems (no third-party support, high price tag, marketing that was vague/poor for much of the platform's life) that can't be fixed and many consumers have moved on.
Smash couldn't "save" WiiU. Splatoon couldn't "save" WiiU. Even Zelda won't "save" WiiU. It's a platform that will only be a success with its fanbase, while its sales numbers will point to it being a huge disappointment for Nintendo.
User generated content has never been a big seller, unless the joy of the game is in creating the spaces, like Minecraft. Little Big Planet was good and sold well for what it was, but was not the savior the PS3 needed at the time.
This has much stronger branding, but the same hobble.
This has much stronger branding, but the same hobble.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
If Mario Kart and Smash can't save it, nothing will.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
If Smash 4 didn't, then why would you ask that question?
Even though I'll enjoy the game, of course it won't.
Even though I'll enjoy the game, of course it won't.
Strangelove77
Member
No. Fuck no. Holy Jesus on the cross no.
Really sad. Sorry to post that. I was never in favor of any such thing; it was just the GAF blackboard I was using. :'(
Lionel Richie
Member
Yes it fucking will.
No it fucking won't come on OP ;_;
ShockingAlberto
Member
I like that it can't just be a good game that is well-liked.
If it doesn't save the Wii U, then why even bother talking about it?
If it doesn't save the Wii U, then why even bother talking about it?
I don't think it needs to necessarily be as powerful as its competitors, but it needs to be as feature rich as them. The biggest example of which is no party chat, because when that's combined with a lack of support for voice chat in most games, it makes the system feel incredibly behind the times in 2015.
JetSetRadio
Banned
It sold like shit. They didn't lose too much money but I think it's going to hurt them even more (perception) if nx really is their next console releasing within 4 years.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Nothing can "save the Wii U," but even Nintendo doesn't care about doing specifically that anymore.
Mario Maker will bring in some good money, and has the potential to keep selling through the launch of the NX if they decide they want to port it and keep the "service" aspect of the game going as they have done with Mario Kart and Smash 4.
Mario Maker will bring in some good money, and has the potential to keep selling through the launch of the NX if they decide they want to port it and keep the "service" aspect of the game going as they have done with Mario Kart and Smash 4.
DownGrader
Member
Wii didn't have F-Zero, and its Paper Mario was meh. And if we are going to assume Zelda Wii U will be cross-gen, then GameCube doesn't have exclusive Zelda too already.
Speaking of Zelda Wii U, I am pretty sure I will be playing it on Wii U. I kinda can't let Twilight Princess "original is better" mentality go out.
Stormhammer
Member
make a yellow wii u bundle with mario maker and see a little bump in sales :3
SwiftDeath
Member
Did OP really make this thread and then leave?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Saving the Wii U is quite impossible at this point but that doesn't mean it's gonna die.
Mario maker will bring in a really interesting community to the WiiU, it should make it super popular among speed runners.
Mario maker will bring in a really interesting community to the WiiU, it should make it super popular among speed runners.