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Could Sony "battery crisis" affect the PSP (Tech guys?)

DrLazy

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Does PSP use lithium ion similar batteries similar to the sony batteries sold in Aplle Laptops now being recalled? I'm just speculating here after a saw the story on the recall. Is it possible PSP would need to be recalled? I've heard stories of it getting pretty hot. Just curious.

Story from Financial Times:
Apple recall deepens Sony battery crisis
By Kevin Allison in San Francisco

Published: August 24 2006 18:23 | Last updated: August 24 2006 19:37

Sony’s crisis over potentially flammable batteries deepened further on Thursday as US product safety regulators said Apple Computer was to recall 1.8m batteries because they presented a fire hazard

The voluntary recall follows a similar move by Dell, which this month recalled more than 4m Sony batteries amid reports that they could cause computers to overheat and, in rare cases, explode into flames.

The recall applies to 1.1m batteries sold in the US and 700,000 batteries sold outside the US. It comes amid heightened concerns about the safety of Lithiumion battery packs commonly used in laptop computers. A number of videos and news stories describing fires caused by laptops spontaneously bursting into flames have circulated on the internet.

Apple said Sony batteries in some of its older models “had not met Apple standards of performance”. The recall did not apply to newer Apple computers containing Intel microchips. Models affected include Apple’s iBook and PowerBook laptops.

Apple said it had received nine reports of batteries overheating, including two reports of customers who received minor burns from handling overheated computers. Others reported minor property damage. No serious injuries were reported.

Experts say the overheating problem is due to a manufacturing error by Sony that introduced metallic impurities into some of its Lithium-ion batteries. Sony said the metallic parts may then intrude through the insulation, resulting in a short circuit that in rare occasions, “may lead to cell overheating and potentially flames.”

The electronics maker said on Thursday that it had introduced new safeguards into its manufacturing process to address safety concerns.

Sony said the recalls at Apple and Dell could cost the company Y20bn-Y30bn (€134.5m-€202m).

“Our understanding is that no further recalls are anticipated involving [products] using these battery packs,” Sony said.

Roger Kay, analyst at Endpoint Technologies, said: “This is really bad for Sony. It has already been shown that Sony is the root of the problem, that they’ve had a manufacturing flaw that is really inexcusable”.

Apple, with its sparkling brand image, might be in a better position to weather a big recall than Dell, which had been struggling against perceptions of poor customer service.

“Dell [is dealing with] a brand image that is already a bit damaged, whereas for Apple it’s a little dent in on a relavely shiny surface,” he said.

In New York trading on Thursday, shares of Apple fell 0.2 per cent to $67.17, while Sony’s American Depositary Receipts fell 2.9 per cent to $43.13.
 
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pretty much sums up my feelings of this thread
 
PSPs do use lithium ion batteries IIRC. But so do lots of Sony products, so far it seems limited to laptops...certainly haven't seen any exploding PSPs.

Who knows though *shrugs*
 
It's more like "how will sony losing millions of dollars in battery recalls, spending billions in R&D for the PS3 then falling short in manufacturing capacity, and making tons of stupid, stupid decisions regarding the PS3 effect gaming in general?"
 
I'm pretty sure the manufacturing defect is limited to Sony laptop batteries. Of course, if the Sony Lithium-ion batteries in your other consumer electronics start to get really hot, watch out.
 
ZeromusMog said:
It's more like "how will sony losing millions of dollars in battery recalls, spending billions in R&D for the PS3 then falling short in manufacturing capacity, and making tons of stupid, stupid decisions regarding the PS3 effect gaming in general?"
we won't notice anything?
 
Could be.

On one hand, PSP battery barely even gets warm, ever. Very different situation from laptops.

On the other hand, I think this problem occurs because of some metal particles dissolving and floating between battery electrodes, and overheating them, and I'm not sure if the heat from the regular battery usage is what's causing that problem to appear.


Also, there's apparently a date when they switched to some newer manufacturing process which won't be affected by this problem. I don't know if PSP battery started being manufactured before or after that.
 
Phantast2k said:
we won't notice anything?

The only thing keeping Sony in business right now is that they're ****ing huge, and their titanic of a company can crash into a FEW icebergs until things get serious.

Besides the fact that I have no money, the only thing keeping me from short selling Sony stock is the fact that huge companies like that tend to just press forward and somehow continue to exist and make money anyway, no matter how much money they bleed for a decade or two. Close a couple of factories, reprioritaize a few paradigms, lay off a branch or two, and keep going.

If Sony does as badly with the PS3 as I think they just might, it will be interesting to see what happens, regardless.
 
Marconelly said:
Could be.

On one hand, PSP battery barely even gets warm, ever. Very different situation from laptops.

On the other hand, I think this problem occurs because of some metal particles dissolving and floating between battery electrodes, and overheating them, and I'm not sure if the heat from the regular battery usage is what's causing that problem to appear.

I'd guess that in a hot outdoor situation, running a laptop PC at full speed, the combination of battery heat and laptop component heat is too much for the minimal dispersion/active cooling to deal with. Today's laptop batteries are already at capacity levels where this can be a bit of an issue without failsafes. The PSP, by comparison, doesn't have the capacity or current draw to become a danger, AFAIK.
 
ZeromusMog said:
The only thing keeping Sony in business right now is that they're ****ing huge, and their titanic of a company can crash into a FEW icebergs until things get serious.

Besides the fact that I have no money, the only thing keeping me from short selling Sony stock is the fact that huge companies like that tend to just press forward and somehow continue to exist and make money anyway, no matter how much money they bleed for a decade or two. Close a couple of factories, reprioritaize a few paradigms, lay off a branch or two, and keep going.

If Sony does as badly with the PS3 as I think they just might, it will be interesting to see what happens, regardless.
huh? Sony's net profit last year was around 1 billion $. They sure will lose a lot on the ps3 launch and this mess, but do you really think they'll go bankrupt?
It's much more possible that MS will leave the market if the 360 doesn't turn profitable in the next years. Don't tell me they have a buttload of money to spend, because they'll also want to earn some more to increase the shareholder value and you can obviously earn more with software than hardware.
 
typhonsentra said:

Where do you people find this crap? You bumped a two year old thread because a boy's leg "got hot"? (exact words from the article)


Also:

"There was no fire," she said. "There was no explosion."
"Anything with a battery in it, if it is left on and in an enclosed space, could heat up," he said. "So all cell phones and video games should be turned off and left in a locked position. A person will usually feel a sense of warmth against their skin from the device before it actually gets to the stage of burning the skin."
 
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