onnextflix5
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Crash 4 Ps5 vs Series X
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MasterCornholio
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There's three more that analyze framerate so if they do exist I'm sure we will see them mentioned in those comparisons. It can also be a bug.
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Umbasaborne
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Its mostly fine, but the shadow quality leaves a lot to be desired. It seems like an easy fix
21GB on XSX.
II_JumPeR_I
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Irc Crash 4 in general hasnt received any patches when it came to fan feedback.
Not for Activision. Like someone said already, they dont care lol
Irc Crash 4 in general hasnt received any patches when it came to fan feedback.
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Bernd Lauert
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Big if true. Would mean someone finally started using the decompressor on the XSX.
Methos#1975
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Shadows were worse on the Xbox X vs Pro as well, they just took the base game and raised the resolution. Zero work put into this.
That's how big the download was yesterday.
Stuart360
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The static environment shadows def look sharper on PS5, but the movable item shadows from Crash, the box in front of him, and the crabs in the background, look identicle. Weird.
Captain Toad
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Not every third-party makes use of DualSense exclusive features.
SilentUser
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The difference in shadows is noticeable, but only when in direct comparison. The truth is this gen games are going to be so close we won't be able to notice the differences except through videos comparing them. This is absolutely outstanding, imo!
Captain Toad
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This is what we do. We compare things that no human would notice a difference while actually playing the game, so we can post "Another One" gif to hopefully piss off the other fanbase.
Bernd Lauert
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PS4Pro had better shadows than One X.
Turns out the shadow settings are just carried over from the base consoles, which means PS5 has PS4 shadows, while XSX has One S shadows. That explains the difference.
papersleeves
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Not sure if people remember the PS4 Pro / One X comparison from DF months ago, but if it is just a BC enhanced port then it all makes sense.
Back then, John Linneman noted that the assets of the game seemed to be defined on the respective base machine of both companies, therefore:
-Lower texture quality on some objects for One X
-Less refined shadows in general on the One X (look at the grass)
-Contact shadows completely absent on the One X (small rocks at the bottom right, it's much more apparent when flipping between both, like in the DF video)
I wonder if we can still find similar differences between the Series X and PS5 versions of the game, or if Series X having less defined, softer shadows is a result the legacy it inherits. Very interested to see DF revisits its analysis now
Here's a significant difference between both versions. Look at the small branch's shadows at lower left portion of the screen:
Something I've noticed though is that the softer look of the shadows on the series X looks a bit better for animated shadows. They appears a bit more diffused, softer, and this helps to hide the pixels of shadows farther away. On the PS5, they can appears slightly more pixelated. It's not really visible on a static image, but if you go at 1:52 mark of the video, you'll see what I am talking about.
All in all, I'd say none of these differences makes for a clearly more enjoyable experience. I mean, the loadings themselves differ by what, .1-.2 second? It's not even worth pointing it out. But I have both consoles, and to me, I appreciate the look of the shadows more on the PS5 overall even though I probably won't notice the difference 99.99% of the time, except for that time when I'll stop moving, look at the level designs and notice it. Still, because I have the choice, and coupled by the fact that the game supports dual sense, I'll pick that version.
Overall though, I don't think it's even worth picking a winner here. It's way too similar overall.
Back then, John Linneman noted that the assets of the game seemed to be defined on the respective base machine of both companies, therefore:
-Lower texture quality on some objects for One X
-Less refined shadows in general on the One X (look at the grass)
-Contact shadows completely absent on the One X (small rocks at the bottom right, it's much more apparent when flipping between both, like in the DF video)
I wonder if we can still find similar differences between the Series X and PS5 versions of the game, or if Series X having less defined, softer shadows is a result the legacy it inherits. Very interested to see DF revisits its analysis now
Here's a significant difference between both versions. Look at the small branch's shadows at lower left portion of the screen:
Something I've noticed though is that the softer look of the shadows on the series X looks a bit better for animated shadows. They appears a bit more diffused, softer, and this helps to hide the pixels of shadows farther away. On the PS5, they can appears slightly more pixelated. It's not really visible on a static image, but if you go at 1:52 mark of the video, you'll see what I am talking about.
All in all, I'd say none of these differences makes for a clearly more enjoyable experience. I mean, the loadings themselves differ by what, .1-.2 second? It's not even worth pointing it out. But I have both consoles, and to me, I appreciate the look of the shadows more on the PS5 overall even though I probably won't notice the difference 99.99% of the time, except for that time when I'll stop moving, look at the level designs and notice it. Still, because I have the choice, and coupled by the fact that the game supports dual sense, I'll pick that version.
Overall though, I don't think it's even worth picking a winner here. It's way too similar overall.
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ethomaz
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Shadows are indeed different no matter how you try to deny it.
But looks like the same situation of Xbox One X and PS4 Pro.
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ethomaz
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Probably another BC game being called "native".Not sure if people remember the PS4 Pro / One X comparison from DF months ago, but if it is just a BC enhanced port then it all makes sense.
Back then, John Linneman noted that the assets of the game seemed to be defined on the respective base machine of both companies, therefore:
-Lower texture quality on some objects for One X
-Less refined shadows in general on the One X (look at the grass)
-Contact shadows completely absent on the One X (small rocks at the bottom right, it's much more apparent when flipping between both, like in the DF video)
I wonder if we can still find similar differences between the Series X and PS5 versions of the game, or if Series X having less defined, softer shadows is a result the legacy it inherits. Very interested to see DF revisits its analysis now
Here's a significant difference between both versions. Look at the small branch's shadows at lower left portion of the screen:
Something I've noticed though is that the softer look of the shadows on the series X looks a bit better for animated shadows. They appears a bit more diffused, softer, and this helps to hide the pixels of shadows farther away. On the PS5, they can appears slightly more pixelated. It's not really visible on a static image, but if you go at 1:52 mark of the video, you'll see what I am talking about.
All in all, I'd say none of these differences makes for a clearly more enjoyable experience. I mean, the loadings themselves differ by what, .1-.2 second? It's not even worth pointing it out. But I have both consoles, and to me, I appreciate the look of the shadows more on the PS5 overall even though I probably won't notice the difference 99.99% of the time, except for that time when I'll stop moving, look at the level designs and notice it. Still, because I have the choice, and coupled by the fact that the game supports dual sense, I'll pick that version.
Overall though, I don't think it's even worth picking a winner here. It's way too similar overall.
They probably just unlocked the resolution and/or framerate and called a day.
At least they took some time to add support to Dual Sense features but that is the bare minimum.
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papersleeves
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Many of the thing you said in this post is true, but the passage about shadows having no difference is wrong, as demonstrated multiple times already. It's visible both with static images, and also in the video. It's ok to be wrong. It happens. Best thing to do is admit and move on. And again, I agree with most of what you said. In the end, both versions are great and while it's always fun to dissect stuff like that, let's remember that it should never be used to attack others and their gaming preference. Both PS5 and Series X owners will have a great time.
Interfectum
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It'll be interesting to compare next gen titles made specially for these systems later this year and next. One big title I'm looking forward to seeing the shadow quality and file size difference is Starfield on PS5 vs Series X.
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Ar¢tos
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But, from a different point of view, isn't the lack of differences, or the fact that the differences are very small, a big difference in itself?
After all, the whole 2tf difference, eats monsters for breakfast, rushed 9tf, etc, etc, being the "same" makes Xbox looks less favorable than it should be.
Reminds me of Nick Rox in GameFan complaining about th Saturn's Street Fighter Alpha shadows.Again, people fighting over absolutely nothing
sncvsrtoip
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common, they up resolution almost 4x over ps4pro/xox with more stable fps (what other game did that?), good work
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Zoro7
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Lol my god. Is this the level now?
FranXico
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Probably different filtering. It's hard to tell when are the shadow edges supposed to be more diffuse, I'm not sure I would call either better.
Higher res or different filtering
Only 1 ms? How do you explain the hardware difference? Series keeping up with loading ?
FranXico
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So classy.Wouldn't wait for NXGamer. He recently swore an oath to wipe out the disgrace of Hitman 3 and barricaded himself in his batcave. He won't return until his work is done. Currently, he's trying to release a stealth patch for the Xbox Series X version, but he forgot the password for his Microsoft account (try: "XboxSucksUK").
FrankWza
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You don't have to wait that long. Just do a Deathloop comparisonIt'll be interesting to compare next gen titles made specially for these systems later this year and next. One big title I'm looking forward to seeing the shadow quality and file size difference is Starfield on PS5 vs Series X.
FrankWza
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Yeah. I think he went from neo to member in about 1 day. I'm thinking he's the alt of the anime guy they're always crying about having been run off in the communities thread. But his tone is angrier
onnextflix5
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If this is true, that's messed up, as activation won't bother to fix it, how is the ps5 ver?
Esppiral
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Not everything is console wars dude, relax, I was really asking....
Interfectum
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When DF compares them next year I'm sure it'll get posted here, especially if the kraken and noodles is involved.You don't have to wait that long. Just do a Deathloop comparison
That PS5 texture compression gonna be nuts for Starfield when it comes in at 0GB.
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FrankWza
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Next year? It's coming out in May
Bernd Lauert
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Next year it will be on both consoles. I think that's his point.
Captain Toad
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He means an Xbox version. It's currently a PS5 exclusive.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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FrankWza
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But it's Xbox first party...
Captain Toad
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Ok?
And it's Microsoft first-party. It's not Xbox first-party seeing as it's not on Xbox.
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REDRZA MWS
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Exactly, they are the fucking same.
Epic Sax CEO
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Don't matter if you see the difference or not, only matter that the difference is there and can be measured.
You say you don't care, you see no difference. You liar, we know that you care very much otherwise you wouldn't be here.
You say you don't care, you see no difference. You liar, we know that you care very much otherwise you wouldn't be here.
ethomaz
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I wrote that in my post... they unlocked the resolution... it is still dynamic.
That has nothing do to with hard work but just more power. Any PS4/XB1 that you unlock resolution and framerate will run close to 4k and 60fps.
You can see the same issues in Xbox One X version in Series X.
BTW the framerate is not good or stable... the video focused in early scenes.
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Shelookdlvl18
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Yeah, Sony has no 1st party exclusives coming this year, so MS charitably let Sony borrow a couple out of pity.
Mr Moose
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ethomaz
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I have the impression Series X DRS is set too soft in games (almost all tests we saw the framrate go down when the resolution should be lower to matain 60fps)... they should focus in DRS dropping resolution always to maintain 60fps.
Unless the framerate drops are related to CPU... DRS won't help with that.
Edit - I just thought about another theory but I think it is not good enough to share it.
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