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crash bandicoot trilogy pretty much confirmed on pc ?

Jokes aside it's probably a timed exclusive but I'll be surprised if other platforms get it before 2018 at the earliest.

I agree with you, I expect 9 months at a minimum.

Maybe the exclusivity is tied to how much the game sells;). Anyways it is most likely coming to atleast pc if not all platforms relatively quickly imo. I wouldn't be shocked if the exclusivity is just one month ala cod dlc with the way activision has been talking about it and not highlighting PS4 platform in their pr releases and Sony not touting anything about its exclusivity.

That would be cool to see, but don't retailers need >1 month head's-up? Mario + Rabbids is 2.5 months and I can't think of a time announcement to release has been shorter than that in recent memory.

It's exclusive until it's not exclusive. Until then there's no reason to believe it's coming to PC or any other platforms.

There are several indicators that it's not exclusive, though.
 
That's... not how it works.

Makes more sense than grasping at straws and analysing marketing labels. There are a few games with the "console exclusive" label that actually are exclusive to PS4. Crash could come to other platforms but what evidence is there? As of now this is a PS4 exclusive so in my opinion, this is how it works. Aimless speculating is a mere step away from port begging.
 
Makes more sense than grasping at straws and analysing marketing labels. There are a few games with the "console exclusive" label that actually are exclusive to PS4. Crash could come to other platforms but what evidence is there? As of now this is a PS4 exclusive so in my opinion, this is how it works. Aimless speculating is a mere step away from port begging.
Even Activision and Sony don't agree with the statement you just made. You don't even have to look at any labels, you can just check every PR statement ever uttered about this trilogy as well as check every showing it had.
 
If the game was exclusive, Sony would have made a big deal out of it. But since they didn't, it most likely means it will come to other platforms, or at least PC.
 
And time :( Can't play every (good) game out there.

For me, I missed the Crash games completely due to lack of a PS1 back then. Never touched them and am glad to get the opportunity to play them.

Yeah time too =D Already have a huge backlog just on PC. I had the first Crash game on PS1, never played the others though. Except Crash Team Racing. More of a Mario guy myself if we are to make a comparison. Spyro and Croc didn't exactly light a spark on me either. But I also love when they are bringing older games back for the new generation to enjoy and for the old timers to revisit.
 
Makes more sense than grasping at straws and analysing marketing labels. There are a few games with the "console exclusive" label that actually are exclusive to PS4. Crash could come to other platforms but what evidence is there? As of now this is a PS4 exclusive so in my opinion, this is how it works. Aimless speculating is a mere step away from port begging.



Sorry if people are questionning exclusivity when a 1st party, that is used to yell exclusivity for the silliest things (exclusive missions/exclusive for a week/console exclusive), isn't clamoring such exclusivity.

Port begging is when you derail a thread asking for a port. Questionning a statement or label isn't.
 
Makes more sense than grasping at straws and analysing marketing labels. There are a few games with the "console exclusive" label that actually are exclusive to PS4. Crash could come to other platforms but what evidence is there? As of now this is a PS4 exclusive so in my opinion, this is how it works. Aimless speculating is a mere step away from port begging.

How do you know that?

You could have said the same about KoFXIV two months ago. You are obviously not going to know when they are coming until the deal is over.
 
I feel like this thread has happened multiple times. I think it'll end up on PC eventually, but the branding is not what gives it away.

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Here, have another one, Steam version incoming.

lol

That's... not how it works.

I think what he's trying to say is that there is no exclusive deal with Sony in place, maybe a marketing deal though. They're testing the waters out with putting it on the PS4, and if it successful they'll port it elsewhere. Same thing I feel is going on with Yakuza.

As far as Uncharted easter eggs in Crash Bandicoot, Naughty Dog had a separate deal to let Activation do that in exchange for putting Crash in Uncharted 4. I don't think they'll have to remove it from the game when they port it to other platforms.
 
Someone mentioned Croc above. Who the hell owns the IP for Croc right now???
Hard to say. It used to belong with Fox Interactive. Fox Interactive died in 2006. The Dev team closed in 2004. It's hard to say but it's either with Fox the film company, or with Vivendi.
 
it's prettt sad a crash bandicoot game has been moneyhatted
Well it is not like activision were clamoring to make this game. Sony was the one that most likely started the ball rolling to get this done due to constant fan demand especially during the all stars battle royal release so i am sure they would have liked to have some sort of exclusivity in return for sharing original game assets, marketing and easter eggs in uncharted etc...
 
Hard to say. It used to belong with Fox Interactive. Fox Interactive died in 2006. The Dev team closed in 2004. It's hard to say but it's either with Fox the film company, or with Vivendi.

That's a good question. The games and IP were owned by Argonaut (the developer) back in the day, but it was dissolved in 2006.

Ahhh. Would be cool if someone brought that back someday. I mean if friggin Bubsy can, Croc can too.
 
Ahhh. Would be cool if someone brought that back someday. I mean if friggin Bubsy can, Croc can too.

I have very vague memories of playing the Croc demo back in the day. You collect gems, right?

Edit: Yes!
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But I mostly remember falling into lava and dying.
 
I have very vague memories of playing the Croc demo back in the day. It had gems, right?

Yeah there were normal transparent gems that acted like Sonic's rings, and also 5 colored gems to collect in each level + fluffy little dudes that some big lizard baddie kidnapped.

I never played Croc 2 though. Croc 1 was alright, had some awkward controls but liked it as a kid.
 
Yeah there were normal transparent gems that acted like Sonic's rings, and also 5 colored gems to collect in each level + fluffy little dudes that some big lizard baddie kidnapped.

I never played Croc 2 though. Croc 1 was alright, had some awkward controls but liked it as a kid.

I'm fairly certain it was one of the first games I played when my parents bought a Windows-based system. I seem to recall having to jump between platforms to finish a level and that was my first experience with awkward --- well, probably "awkward", to be fair -- kb&m controls.

Oh, man. Talk about a nostalgiagasm.
 
I'm fairly certain it was one of the first games I played when my parents bought a Windows-based system. I seem to recall having to jump between platforms to finish a level and that was my first experience with awkward --- well, probably "awkward", to be fair -- kb&m controls.

Oh, man. Talk about a nostalgiagasm.

Good times :') think the first Crash Bandicoot and Croc were the games I got with my PS1. 2 very challenging games.
 
Until this game can be purchased for another console or PC it's exclusive. No amount of "well maybes" will change that. If you want to wait and hope it comes to your platform that's fine but that doesn't change the games status as of June 27th 2017. In a year or so you'll have your "I told you so's" but the world will have moved on.
 
Sony needs to stop being confusing about all this and use clear, simple, and easy to remember terminology that everyone can understand like Console Launch Exclusive.
 
Sony needs to stop being confusing about all this and use clear, simple, and easy to remember terminology that everyone can understand like Console Launch Exclusive.

I mean yeah, it does tell that it's only timed exclusivity. Details are still missing though =P It's better than being even more obtuse about it.
 
How many threads till this is just port begging?

Nothing meaningful to suggest this will be released on any platforms beyond the PS4. Sony own the rights to the original games, this is based on the level mesh, taken directly from the original games.

If Sony chose, they could have made a deal to allow this to release on other platforms, but at this stage it's

a) unclear why they would have had any incentive to do that
b) we have no evidence to suggest anything like that happened
 
How many threads till this is just port begging?

Nothing meaningful to suggest this will be released on any platforms beyond the PS4. Sony own the rights to the original games, this is based on the level mesh, taken directly from the original games.

If Sony chose, they could have made a deal to allow this to release on other platforms, but at this stage it's

a) unclear why they would have had any incentive to do that
b) we have no evidence to suggest anything like that happened

a) Sony doesn't own the rights
b) That this game has literally not one freakin goddamn time been called an exclusive in marketing or on stage like sony does with literally all other of their first and third party exclusive videogames and the developers outright avoiding to make any statement in interviews is in fact very much suggesting that this game will be released on other platforms.
c) Unless someone can finally give a convincing argument as to why sony would make the exclusivity of this title so unsure and ambitious, everyone thinking this is in fact an exclusive is the videogame equivalent of a flat earther.
 
With how weird and wishy-washy the messaging has been about this, I don't think it's unreasonable to suspect that PS4 exclusivity is not permanent. I personally think Sony is eager to label it as such but Activision is like 🤔 "Well hold on there partner, lemme just consider my options..."

But as of right now, it's coming out for PS4 on Friday and it is not even remotely close to being "pretty much confirmed on PC" lmao, chill
 
everyone thinking this is in fact an exclusive is the videogame equivalent of a flat earther.

There is more evidence for it being exclusive than not at this time, in that it's been announced for one platform and no others. Whatever happens in the future is entirely conjecture and speculation, as of right now, the game is 100% PS4 exclusive.

Unless, of course, you can link me to an announcement of another platform for the game.
 
I don't see how you guys are inferring that it could come to other consoles when it clearly says ps4 console exclusive...

I think people are mostly inferring that it could come to PC. And Sonys exclusivity labels are not an accurate way to deduce exclusivity of a game considering they are often wrong and even vary across regions for some games. I don't think the US version even has a label for instance.
 
Those arent just my tastes. Theyre widely regarded as some of the best games this gen.

I can also find games to like on every system, even something as content starved as Switch.

That doesn't address the fact that maybe, just maybe, he isn't interested in the games you mentioned. Or potentially in any game on the console. No one is saying that they are bad games, at all. Whether it's popular, critically acclaimed or genre defining shouldn't turn the game into a "must play".

Good for you if you can find something to play on every system. You still fail to see that not everyone has that capacity (nor amount of spare money), so that's that, I guess.
 
There is more evidence for it being exclusive than not at this time, in that it's been announced for one platform and no others. Whatever happens in the future is entirely conjecture and speculation, as of right now, the game is 100% PS4 exclusive.

Unless, of course, you can link me to an announcement of another platform for the game.
Can you link to the announcement of exclusivity ? 🤔
 
There is more evidence for it being exclusive than not at this time, in that it's been announced for one platform and no others. Whatever happens in the future is entirely conjecture and speculation, as of right now, the game is 100% PS4 exclusive.

Unless, of course, you can link me to an announcement of another platform for the game.

It being announced only for one one platform - for the time being . is no evidence of anything at all there have been hundreds of games in similar situations that still found their way to other platforms some time down the line.

Meanwhile, it is a fact that every involved party is outright avoiding to label the game an exclusive and to repeat myself, until someone can finally give me some good reason why sony and activision are having this spiel about the other potential platforms, it being exclusive is the theory.

A theory that completely contradicts the reality of what sony and activision are doing.
 
Looked up Croc. Couldn't find a current trademark, but found this old one. :(

RIP

Word Mark CROC
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: musical sound and video recordings; exposed camera and X-ray films; computer game software; virtual reality game software; computer game equipment sold as a unit for playing a parlor-type game, namely, computer consoles, video monitors and computer input devices; and video game software and programs; all of the foregoing being exclusive for use on or for system disc optimization
(ABANDONED) IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: printed matter, namely, books and magazines for games and entertainment, periodicals, namely, newspapers, magazines and newsletters in the field of entertainment; graphic art prints; pictures, posters, postcards, photographs mounted and unmounted, calendars, diaries, greetings cards; playing cards; instructional and teaching materials for games and entertainment; wrapping paper and paper bags for packing and packing paper; stationery; writing instruments; paperweights; pen and pencil cases; rulers for drawings and drafting; decalcomanias; maps, paper beer-mats; paper table mats, paper table napkins, paper tablecloths; handkerchiefs of paper; manuals for games and entertainment; document files; stickers; printed wall-charts; comic strips in general, comic books and paper frames for photographic transparencies; and holograms; all of the foregoing being exclusive for use on or for system disc optimization

(ABANDONED) IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: games, toys, playthings, namely, board-games, action figures, play-sets consisting of model action figures for role-playing games, action figure carrying cases; stuffed toy animals; inflatable ride-on toys; hand-held unit for playing electronic games; game equipment sold as a unit for playing a board-game; electronic game equipment with a watch function; LCD game machine; jigsaw puzzles; all for the foregoing being exclusive for use on or for system disc optimization

(ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: production and distribution of cinematographic films and motion pictures and of television programs; videotape film production; television and film special effects and animation production; publication of books, comics, magazines and periodicals; electronic publishing services, namely, publication of texts and graphics of others on CD-ROMs featuring games and entertainment; all of the foregoing being exlusive for use on or for system disc optimization

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75284794
Filing Date May 1, 1997
Current Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition December 8, 1998
Owner (APPLICANT) Argonaut Software Limited CORPORATION UNITED KINGDOM 70 Colindale Avenue London NW9 5ER ENGLAND
Attorney of Record RICHARD E BACKUS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date September 3, 1999
 
Can you link to the announcement of exclusivity ? 🤔

I can link you to a PS4 announcement. Unless there are other platform announcements then by the very definition of the word, it's exclusive, right? Until any other platform is announced, the game is exclusive.

How long it is exclusive for, or if its indefinitely exclusive, is anyone's guess, but it's also entirely speculation. It's therefore a little hypocritical to compare people who think the game is exclusive for "flat earthers" don't you think?


It being announced only for one one platform - for the time being . is no evidence of anything at all there have been hundreds of games in similar situations that still found their way to other platforms some time down the line.

Meanwhile, it is a fact that every involved party is outright avoiding to label the game an exclusive and to repeat myself, until someone can finally give me some good reason why sony and activision are having this spiel about the other potential platforms, it being exclusive is the theory.

A theory that completely contradicts the reality of what sony and activision are doing.

Many games have found themselves multiplatform down the line, you're right. I'm not talking about that though. Im saying that right now, the game being announced for one platform means it is exclusive until another platform is announced.

You can (rightly) speculate however you wish about the vague labelling from both Sony and Activision, but that's all it is until someone somewhere makes it official.
 
It being announced only for one one platform - for the time being . is no evidence of anything at all there have been hundreds of games in similar situations that still found their way to other platforms some time down the line.

Meanwhile, it is a fact that every involved party is outright avoiding to label the game an exclusive and to repeat myself, until someone can finally give me some good reason why sony and activision are having this spiel about the other potential platforms, it being exclusive is the theory.

A theory that completely contradicts the reality of what sony and activision are doing.


Not to be off topic, but what is the deal with NI_OH? Doesn't tecmo-koei own it? Then why hasn't is come to PC either?

Is it a similar situation? I truly think the games exclusivity is determined by sales numbers. If it doesn't do well I don't see it coming to PC.

I mean how well do 3d platform games do on PC?
 
I can link you to a PS4 announcement. Unless there are other platform announcements then by the very definition of the word, it's exclusive, right? Until any other platform is announced, the game is exclusive.

Yes, it's exactly this easy. Just like you said. I'm not even being sarcastic.

Now continue this point further to the part where the devs and invovled parties are outright avoiding to say it is exclusive when asked. Now, why would that be, following your statement?

How long it is exclusive for, or if its indefinitely exclusive, is anyone's guess, but it's also entirely speculation. It's therefore a little hypocritical to compare people who think the game is exclusive for "flat earthers" don't you think?

There seems to be some misunderstanding here. I do not meant to say that every person who thinks the game is exclusive an idiot or anything.

The thing about flat earthing is that the entire argument falls apart with the simple question "why?", as in "why do people in power pretend the earth is a ball when it is actually flat?", unless someone can give a proper reason to that answer, there is no basis for flat earthing as a motive for a theory needs to be established.

And the same applies to this case.

"Why do Sony and Acitvision never say that it is exclusive when it is, like they do with all other videogames?", unless someone can establish a motive for that, arguing that it is actually an exclusive is a pointless, mood theory because it contradicts the way these established businesses have been working for decades.

Anyways, i'm tiring of this topic so i'll pace out.

Not to be off topic, but what is the deal with NI_OH? Doesn't tecmo-koei own it? Then why hasn't is come to PC either?

Is it a similar situation? I truly think the games exclusivity is determined by sales numbers. If it doesn't do well I don't see it coming to PC.

I mean how well do 3d platform games do on PC?

I can't answer your question, sorry, as i haven't been following the case of nioh very well.
 
That was confirmed the second the game was revealed, Sony being evasive and cagey about the exclusivity pretty much means it's coming to other platforms.

The question is: How long are we gonna wait before it hits non-PS platforms?
 
Sony needs to stop being confusing about all this and use clear, simple, and easy to remember terminology that everyone can understand like Console Launch Exclusive.

But the whole point of language like that it is is confusing, which creates uncertainty so that people who would rather play on a different platform might give in and get it on PS4.

And I don't mean it like it's some sinister conspiracy, it's just marketing 101. If they had a clear way to distinguish which games were coming to other platforms later, no matter how it was worded, people would figure out the wording system and that would be that. Why would Sony want that to happen?
 
The fact that this isn't clear is crazy. It's like MS with Tomb Raider. Given that they haven't been clear and outright, I think a PC release is possible
 
The fact that this isn't clear is crazy. It's like MS with Tomb Raider. Given that they haven't been clear and outright, I think a PC release is possible

It's nothing like MS and RotTR. For as much shit as they got that was transparent as possible.
 
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