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CRAZY Accident on I-95 in Baltimore

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This happened a few years ago in Atlanta and Birmingham during rush hour. Roads iced up suddenly during evening rush hour. People just abandoned their cars and walked.
I think it's sort of assumed that people in areas where snow is rare are much more careful in adverse conditions.
 
This happened a few years ago in Atlanta and Birmingham during rush hour. Roads iced up suddenly during evening rush hour. People just abandoned their cars and walked.

Seems pretty unlikely that there would be no advanced warning from weather stations about dropping temps and possible icing. There are signs all over the major highways when winter weather is possible and there is usually a winter weather advisory. I just don't get how people can be caught off guard by weather events these days
 
Maybe a picture of the elevated highway, and where some vehicles dropped, will help out those with reading comprehension issues.

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Seems pretty unlikely that there would be no advanced warning from weather stations about dropping temps and possible icing. There are signs all over the major highways when winter weather is possible and there is usually a winter weather advisory. I just don't get Joe people can be caught off guard by weather events these days

It happens all the time.
 
It seems to happen more frequently in some parts of the country compared to others.

I guess some of us live in states that are still decades behind more progressive states offering these types of advanced services. For instance, we only just recently got an electronic highway sign. ONE sign for ONE section of ONE highway that displays warnings ahead of time. Maybe we just don't have the budget for it or we have decided that we have different priorities. Unfortunately, highway safety seems to be somewhere near the bottom of the list. I know for a fact that our state budget for road repairs is very low.
 
This past week there were trucks out treating the roads in the DMV area. Not sure if they hit 95 but we were more prepared for the ice than we normally are.
 
A video like this is good for safety education purposes. Does anyone know if there was a weather warning or a flash freeze warning in the news? People need all the help they can get in preventing themselves from getting into trouble, especially when driving in bad weather.
 
It seems to happen more frequently in some parts of the country compared to others.
I mean, yeah.

It's also generally warmer in Florida than Buffalo, NY.

A video like this is good for safety education purposes. Does anyone know if there was a weather warning or a flash freeze warning in the news? People need all the help they can get in preventing themselves from getting into trouble, especially when driving in bad weather.
No weather warning in the same vein as those annoying phone alarms that you sometimes get for flash floods. No warning signs on the roads.
 
Are most of those drivers morons? Several drive straight into the smoke and fire, then when a few stop someone else crashes into them? WTF?! He wasn't even going fast so that one could argue he didn't have time to react especially when there was a giant fucking fire signalling that something's gone horribly wrong.

I think most of them hit the brakes well before the fire [and maybe before the guy with the camera saw them] but the road is so bad they slide all the way into the fire
 
A video like this is good for safety education purposes. Does anyone know if there was a weather warning or a flash freeze warning in the news? People need all the help they can get in preventing themselves from getting into trouble, especially when driving in bad weather.

What good do warnings do if people can't hear or see them while driving in their vehicles?

One thing I've never understood is why we haven't mandated having a 24-hr weather radio channel that broadcasts live warnings that anyone anywhere can access and listen in on at any given time. Are there logistics that prevent this from being a thing?
 
The video is scary. I turned it off after I saw the tanker flipping.

This thread is trash. Gaffers in here asking why the cars/trucks weren't stopping on an ice covered highway (you can't) and getting angry at the guy who called 9/11 for not doing more LOL.
 
Truckers saying they won't be replaced with autonomous driving AI.

Driving too fast in icy conditions.

Driving right into fire.

What do you expect an autonomous system would do? You don't really outsmart ice. If you're the first group of cars to hit a patch of it without warning I don't really think AI would help you.
 
What good do warnings do if people can't hear or see them while driving in their vehicles?

One thing I've never understood is why we haven't mandated having a 24-hr weather radio channel that broadcasts live warnings that anyone anywhere can access and listen in on at any given time. Are there logistics that prevent this from being a thing?

In Toronto we have a radio station 680News that has up to date weather and traffic reports as well as weather forecast warnings from extreme wind to severe precipitation to warn people well in advance. I figured everywhere had something similar.
 
Real people slow down when approaching bridges and tunnels too and there aren't explosions and accidents all the time.

I ain't buying it.

On an interstate highway? No they absolutely do not. If big trucks just started slowing down at every bridge because it's 32 degrees there would be many more accidents and problems than are caused by icing. It's cold way more often than it is icy.
 
I like how people are acting as if this guy could have saved all of this from happening had he dialed 911 more than once.
 
On an interstate highway? No they absolutely do not. If big trucks just started slowing down at every bridge because it's 32 degrees there would be many more accidents and problems than are caused by icing. It's cold way more often than it is icy.
They absolutely do. Any tunnel especially. You could also program sensors to have more nuance in how much they slow down/if it may be icy instead of just cold. Think.
 
If all automated commercial vehicles slowed down on bridges when it was near freezing MORE people would be killed in accidents. Think.
There was freezing rain and it was several degrees below freezing. This didn't come out of nowhere.

Or this bit, "Authorities and the weather service were warning people not to drive if at all possible."
 
They absolutely do. Any tunnel especially. You could also program sensors to have more nuance in how much they slow down/if it may be icy instead of just cold. Think.

Tunnels yes, bridges, no. I drive over many overpasses every single day on 95 and no one bats an eye as they fly by at 80.

A car senses traction. If there's ice affecting traction braking is already compromised and the same thing that we saw in the video can happen. Once you're on ice there's nothing you can really do unless it's only a small patch.
 
Truckers saying they won't be replaced with autonomous driving AI.

Driving too fast in icy conditions.

Driving right into fire.

You really thing an AI will do better in bad weather? With black ice? Because I seriously doubt it. That's one of the major challenges of having a self driving car- winter weather is difficult to navigate. Or even heavy rain. If the traffic conditions shifted abruptly, the AI is probably going to have the exact same thing happen.
 
Tunnels yes, bridges, no. I drive over many overpasses every single day on 95 and no one bats an eye as they fly by at 80.

A car senses traction. If there's ice affecting traction braking is already compromised and the same thing that we saw in the video can happen. Once you're on ice there's nothing you can really do unless it's only a small patch.
Right, which is why it would be helpful for cars to slowdown in general if there's a chance that roads are covered in ice.
 
You really thing an AI will do better in bad weather? With black ice? Because I seriously doubt it. That's one of the major challenges of having a self driving car- winter weather is difficult to navigate. Or even heavy rain. If the traffic conditions shifted abruptly, the AI is probably going to have the exact same thing happen.
No, because AI would have the sense to slow the hell down in these conditions.

Then we're back at the same place about slowing down on every bridge every time it's cold. It's often freezing and it's rarely icy.
Except for when there was recently freezing rain, like in this case.
 
It's a shame that cities that experience snow and icey conditions frequently in the united states don't have the snow-removal infrastructure that a lot of Canadian cities do. Where I live if conditions were like this on the highways the city would be trucking out convoys of salt laying plows throughout the day.

Still pretty crazy to see first-hand though. I assume the tanker that exploded was one of the fatalities?
 
There was freezing rain and it was several degrees below freezing. This didn't come out of nowhere.

Or this bit, "Authorities and the weather service were warning people not to drive if at all possible."

The sad thing about this, is that a lot of people feel pressured to go out driving to and from their job by their employers, when they should be encouraging people to stay home and off the roads. Nevermind that the authorities are asking people not to drive.
 
Gotta love internet forum members sitting at their computers typing about how much better they would have handled this horrific situation.
 
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