Not sure if these are the equivalent things to what lumen would do, but if the 1/16 figure is a downsample factor for lightning (probe-px size) then thats good and i am sure we have all played plenty of UE5 games with the exact same and worse (at max settings ofc). Their denoiser seems extremely poor given theres simultaneously flicker and its also seemingly overly aggressive thus erasing low res details, it should be one or the other if it was decent.
So?Cyberpunk has Ray Reconstruction. The difference is with it off, Cyberpunk doesn't look bad like it lost its ambient occlusion like in Crimson Desert.
This might be the craziest shot showing the difference to me. Wtf.
The game locks at 60fps on a 7900XTX when using Ultra settings at native 4k. 9070 XT will probably perform better than the 7900 XTX in this game considering the better RT performance. RR has a ~24% drop in performance on AMD hardware. Setting FSR 4 to Quality or Balanced will claw all that performance back and then some.
Some clarifications:This is interesting. AC shadows does half resolution if im reading this correctly, In their ray tracing presentation, they found that half resolution is way better than quarter resolution. 1/16 in crimson desert is just way too low and barely even comparable to software ray tracing. Unless that 1/16 figure is something else.
kind of ruins the look of the game, the extensive beautiful iconic color palate of crimson desert is gone with RR, everything is shaded and brown and grey.Someone in this very thread said the Pro is better at some things in this game then PC, he didnt allaborate though lol.
In fact i'll give it 1 week before multiple people on here start saying the RT looks better on console because it looks less realistic and more fantasy like or some shit like that.
I'm convinced that developers should ship games without Ultra/Cinematic settings, get praised for optimization, then update the game to add those settings later. Avoid all the idiots whining about not be able to max out the game on their GPU.
Baffling truly baffling.
Undervolt my guy, takes 20 seconds to set up and you'll probably get better performance.
Honestly, that just makes me give more kudos to the Crimson Desert devs, even if they are using 1/16th or 1/8th. The fact is, they optimized the engine to deliver outstanding results with smart optimization. This isn't a case where the lighting suffers terribly for the optimization, it looks very impressive and maintains great performance ontop and it scales across all modes. The game is just a technical tour de force with amazing scale and ambition, with smart engineering showing through instead of the typical turn settings on and off from pc buiild and done, and I'm happy to give credit to the devs.This is interesting. AC shadows does half resolution if im reading this correctly, In their ray tracing presentation, they found that half resolution is way better than quarter resolution. 1/16 in crimson desert is just way too low and barely even comparable to software ray tracing. Unless that 1/16 figure is something else.
If u got highend rig it looks at least gen above ps5/xbox series version, not to mention if u played ps4/xbone version at launch, then after all those updates, reworks and expack it feels more like a sequel to ps4/xbone version than same game.
Just wait to find out from benchmarks
What do you expect Cerny to do when Sony gives him a 500 dollar budget to work with?
There are few quests that are easier doable with mouse controlls, and its not small difference, think trying 20x on pad, failing miserably then 1st time on kb&mouse and u did it.
You know, you don't have to run it at cinematic settings right?
PSSR 2 will elevate the console experience imo, just hold on
Yeah you have to sell me this one a little better...
A lot better than the Pro. How is this even a question? The only games I play on my Pro are Sony exclusives.
Is this trolling?
The gotcha is the RT looks subpar because it uses an extremely low ray count per pixel, lower than anything we've seen so far. Those are the count for the diffuse (lighting) in some games.
This, especially! Although Resi9 is looking about as good as thought games would look this gen, it's crazy to be able to look like this in the first place and only on PC can you do it!
What amazes me about the games with really well done RT/PT is how grounded and realistic everything looks. Things look a lot less "gamey" than in games that use more traditional rendering techniques.This, especially! Although Resi9 is looking about as good as thought games would look this gen, it's crazy to be able to look like this in the first place and only on PC can you do it!
Anyone old enough knows that's the type of stuff we once dreamt about! When you marry stuff like path tracing, SBH, 4096x4096 maps, and DLSS, this is what you can end up with!
Exactly, and part of the reason is because we're finally getting cutscene level lighting in realtime!
2011 for me lol Played far cry 3, Splinter Cell and several other mid to late gen games at a full 1080p 60 fps on a giant 55 inch screen. It was glorious.
very interesting stuff. I wonder what the Avatar devs use. Been playing DLC and i really like the way areas are properly darkened especially when it stops raining while the skies are still dark so you get these nice specular highlights while the areas around them remain properly darkened. its very pleasing to the eye.
Because the context is what the PC game looks on a 4080 like vs what the console game looks like. Do you think PSSR2 will make a meaningful difference vs a 4080 to the point that it's worth waiting? Unless they plan on adding RR or something equivalent, PSSR or PSSR2 makes no difference.
That poster said RR vs standard denoiser is a "minor" difference. Does that not sound like trolling to you?
