Boss Doggie
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Oh god yes.
Now make a sequel and give it a homage to Big O because it's practically begging one!!
Now make a sequel and give it a homage to Big O because it's practically begging one!!
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Crow-Eating Time: Pacific Rim Makes Over $400 Million Worldwide
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It's one of those movies you have to pay ME to watch it. Don't see the appeal. Just like Snakes on a Plane.
And no one is salty that it made $400 mill, didn't Grow Ups 2 make that? I don't think ticket sales should be a benchmark for a movie. MacGruber was the greatest movie in the history of entertainment and it only made $8 mill.
And no one is salty that it made $400 mill, didn't Grow Ups 2 make that? I don't think ticket sales should be a benchmark for a movie. MacGruber was the greatest movie in the history of entertainment and it only made $8 mill.
Vulcano's assistant
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It's like it presses certain buttons on people, wow, this thread is amusing.
You totally showed all those nerds.
ChosenPredator
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for real pacific rim is like the xbox one of neogaf OT lol
Phoenician_Viking
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I dont have anything against the but saying that people should have been wrong about the movie bombing is false when the production budget is so high and most revenues are from international BO where the studios make less money than domestic BO. That is all.
Phoenician_Viking
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Stay butthurt. Numbers don't lie but you can live in your own bubble as much as you want.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I hope this means being repped for Super Robot Wars! This and G-Savior!
With that said I honestly hope it doesn't go the way of fuckery that is Eva. Make it stand on its own and try not to look "deep" with shitty imagery.
With that said I honestly hope it doesn't go the way of fuckery that is Eva. Make it stand on its own and try not to look "deep" with shitty imagery.
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twinturbo2
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I'll have the humble pie, please. And an anime series sequel.
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Cool yeah,you'd have to pay me more to watch that.
I'm not butthurt lol, I just get tired of your Shtick. You're not the all knowing Hollywood box office god you think you are.
Instigator
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Did they say anything during the 20 minutes of non-movie-related commercials? Anything against Coke? Juicy Fruit?`Axe men products?
You obviously had the pulse of the nation with that audience.
Sounds like he knows as much about Hollywood as Michael Pachter knows about video games.
want some fries with that crow?
Phat Michael
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This didnt happen.
I also dont get why people derive pleasure from things NOT doing well.
If you dont like the movie, dont see it, and if it doesnt do well it wont get any sequels. However, if the movie DOES do well, then the people that enjoyed it will get to see another one. They are happy, and it shouldnt impact your life as you are not forced to see it in any way.
Its like pokemon games for me - people love them, i dont care about them at all. however, if they do well then more people get them, people keep their jobs and more are made.
I simply dont get people who actively enjoy things not doing well and failing. it is a very strange concept to me - i dont think ive ever rooted for things to "not do well" before....
Because no matter how big and beautiful that flower in the middle of the park might be, every dog that walks by has to piss on it.
AdventureRacing
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The same reason that people don't like transformers doing well because it encourages the studios to make more movies you don't like.
I've come around on PR and i would like to see a sequel but it isn't a difficult concept to understand. I also don't think there has been nearly as much negativity towards the movie as being portrayed. If anything considering its general reception the movie has been received overly well on GAF. The people who were saying it was under performing weren't exactly wrong.
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I think perhaps people are disagreeing so strongly with you because you keep using a term that is totally off base. You don't seem to know what a box office bomb is. Using box office mojo for figures: The lone ranger has so far made 232m off a 215m budget. That is a box office bomb, even with home media sales, Tv rights etc it is likely to never see a profit.
Pacific Rim has made 397m off a 190m budget. While likely not profitable yet, it is in no way at all a bomb and will easily go on to turn a very nice profit once all is said and done. I think the worst that could be said is it underperformed.
From box office it will have already covered the fast majority of the production budget (guessing around 175m or so covered so far), so that will easily be covered soon. Not sure what the marketing budget was but that will be covered when all is said and done for sure.
Will it get a sequel? Possibly. It had strong overseas gross and it is fairly common to see big growths overseas with a sequel. While the studio certainly won't be jumping straight into pre-production for a sequel I think they will definitely be considering it. It will likely depend on how the home sales are. Which for the type of movie is should be very strong.
Hobo Zombie
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.I am now a dessicated husk of a person after being exposed to all the salt in this thread. A piece of human jerky, if you will.
Like most other people that didn't drown their inner child in the psychic bathtub, I hope this does lead to a sequel. I watched Pacific Rim, knew it wasn't a "good" movie, but loved every second of it.
Like most other people that didn't drown their inner child in the psychic bathtub, I hope this does lead to a sequel. I watched Pacific Rim, knew it wasn't a "good" movie, but loved every second of it.
kyoya
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Do you people actually think Legendary Pictures (the producers of Pacific Rim) are going to turn their back on China, where Pacific Rim had huge success? If some people stick around for the closing credits of certain films, they might catch "Produced in association with", and some of them are Japanese co-producers that invest in the film (Dentsu come to mind). Japanese and Chinese investment in Hollywood films are HUGE.
Some people are forgetting this announcement from three months ago. In other words, China will most likely invest in a Pacific Rim sequel, they'd be stupid not to after its success there. Just Google Iron Man 3 and the influence China had with that film.
Folks, we're getting a Pacific Rim sequel. It's just going to take some time to announce it since Del Toro has a couple of other projects in the pipeline.
I'll also just leave this right here and keep in mind that China Film Group was the Chinese distributor of Pacific Rim:
Some people are forgetting this announcement from three months ago. In other words, China will most likely invest in a Pacific Rim sequel, they'd be stupid not to after its success there. Just Google Iron Man 3 and the influence China had with that film.
Folks, we're getting a Pacific Rim sequel. It's just going to take some time to announce it since Del Toro has a couple of other projects in the pipeline.
I'll also just leave this right here and keep in mind that China Film Group was the Chinese distributor of Pacific Rim:
CartridgeBlower
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You assume so much. Just like a lot of other posters in this thread.
Phat Michael
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As i said in my previous post, if you dont like it then dont go see it. Let other people see it who want to see it. It doesnt stop you seeing all the other films you want to see.
an example of this for me is Les Miserables - really dont care at all and will NEVEr watch it. but i have nothing against it and if it spawns a series then fine - i dont have to watch them. I would never celebrate a movie's failure however because some people might want to see more.
No one's forcing anyone to watch the movie, but give people who enjoy it the option of seeing more.
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this thread
foxuzamaki
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I cant help but make the comparisons to big O design wise.
Messofanego
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Same. I don't care about the young adult adaptations like Twilight and its clones, but I don't go into those threads and show my dissatisfaction or whatever. Or Miley Cyrus, pop music. Don't feel like making a pointless contribution to those topics.
Pacific Rim production costs - $180/200m (unconfirmed). Let's say $200m after 3D.
Worldwide advertising costs were easily $100m (unconfirmed).
So that represents an investment of (again unconfirmed) $300m.
A Worldwide gross of $400m would return approx (guesstimate) $200m to the studio.
Warner Bros take a 10% distribution fee which they do with all their co-fi movies.
That leaves Legendary and WB (who only financed 25% of the budget) with $180m from the theatrical run of Pacific Rim.
That leaves a 'potential' loss of $120m. And while that money could be recouped in time (home video, TV, etc etc) it still doesn't make sense to make a further investment of $150/200m in a sequel that Legendary would likely have to finance themselves.
As I've said time and again on paper I don't think a sequel is happening but stranger things have happened at sea. Once again I 'show my working' and once again all the fanboys who don't know what they are talking about call me 'salty'.
I'm not sure why you stuck all those quotes in there.
I am still right and you still don't understand what you're talking about.
Also I'm flattered that I made such an impression on you. I don't remember this exchange at all.
Worldwide advertising costs were easily $100m (unconfirmed).
So that represents an investment of (again unconfirmed) $300m.
A Worldwide gross of $400m would return approx (guesstimate) $200m to the studio.
Warner Bros take a 10% distribution fee which they do with all their co-fi movies.
That leaves Legendary and WB (who only financed 25% of the budget) with $180m from the theatrical run of Pacific Rim.
That leaves a 'potential' loss of $120m. And while that money could be recouped in time (home video, TV, etc etc) it still doesn't make sense to make a further investment of $150/200m in a sequel that Legendary would likely have to finance themselves.
As I've said time and again on paper I don't think a sequel is happening but stranger things have happened at sea. Once again I 'show my working' and once again all the fanboys who don't know what they are talking about call me 'salty'.
I'm not sure why you stuck all those quotes in there.
I am still right and you still don't understand what you're talking about.
Also I'm flattered that I made such an impression on you. I don't remember this exchange at all.
saw it at the theater.
it had been since Avatar that I had been to the movies.
not a single regret.
glad I helped the people involved.
best use of CGI, hollywood tropes etc...since CGI is the de facto hollywood blockbuster "main character"
would love sentient robots in the sequel
it had been since Avatar that I had been to the movies.
not a single regret.
glad I helped the people involved.
best use of CGI, hollywood tropes etc...since CGI is the de facto hollywood blockbuster "main character"
would love sentient robots in the sequel
Why would Legendary finance it themselves if they've signed a co-production deal with China Film Group? Do you think CFG is not interested in the fifth highest grossing film of all time in China? Project forward to the size of the Chinese box office in 2-4 years, and how films that do well there do a lot better in future outings (Marvel films, Kung Fu Panda, Transformers, Pirates).
It's my understanding that the Legendary deal with CFG (their second China deal after their first, Legendary East, went up in smoke BTW) is for a slate of original projects that are centered around China and appeal to Chinese audiences.
It's not just a slush fund for all the projects that Legendary couldn't set up elsewhere or for sequels that others pass on. Though Legendary own the Pacific Rim IP Warners still own worldwide distribution rights including home video etc.
Would CFG want to get in on a sequel to a property they wouldn't own? I'm doubtful. So while it's by no means impossible if there is a PR sequel I imagine it's done with Universal distributing WW (but perhaps no co-financing) rather than being done under the CFG deal.
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For what it's worth, I was at the world premier at midnight in the 3D Imax in Hong Kong (the mall, next to Chungking Mansions) and nobody there seemed to have enjoyed the film afterwards. Admittedly it was strange/cool to watch Hong Kong itself being a main center piece in the film, and then watching it in Hong Kong as well, but I am salty.
I miss those action films where you like the characters and enjoy the action scenes. In this film I just enjoyed the fights, but disliked the other portions when the human heads where talking.
I miss those action films where you like the characters and enjoy the action scenes. In this film I just enjoyed the fights, but disliked the other portions when the human heads where talking.
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Like this post, zing.
I can't wait for the sequel, but I'd almost prefer a different setting but same concept. More giant robots/monsters please.
That rocket punch into plasma storm.
Any China co-financing deal has the requirement to "appeal to Chinese audiences." Even minimal additions like in Iron Man 3 and Looper were required as part of their deals.
Most Chinese co-financing deals we've seen so far don't surrender worldwide distribution, I don't see how it's any different here. They are interested in making money in China.
Chinese film companies have co-financed Iron Man 3 ($120 million China, Avengers did $80 million) and Transformers 4 (T3 did $160 million), why would they balk at co-financing Pacific Rim? They also co-financed Looper ($20 million), Kung Fu Panda 3 (KFP2 did $90 million) and the Karate Kid remake. James Cameron says he's pursuing a co-financing deal for the Avatar sequels. None of these IPs or worldwide distribution rights went to the Chinese studios, they only were entitled to their share of domestic receipts, which they're happy to take. The major trend for sequel co-financing is that the film prequels over-achieved at the China box office.
CFG only had about 1/3 of the Chinese box office in 2012, so they probably would be interested in the fifth highest grossing Hollywood film in China (the others are Avatar, Iron Man, Titanic, Transformers). Iron Man had a sequel co-financed by DMG, Transformers has a deal with Jiaflix and CMC, and Avatar is looking for Chinese partners. The 7th highest grossing Hollywood film, Kung Fu Panda 2, got a co-financing deal for a sequel. I don't see why Pacific Rim is unattractive to CFG.
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Yeah, I really hope the success of this movie means that studios will be more likely to fund The Mountains of Madness. I really want to see that movie get made.
Boss Doggie
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Makes me wonder if a Mazinger Z live action movie could be made.
Elysium is a derivative work starring a bland actor.
Pacific Rim has meh acting but has mecha. A surprisingly well-done live action mecha. The last one that attempted that (G-Savior) was... well... something.
Really, I was waiting for something akin to Big O's Finale attack.
Elysium is a derivative work starring a bland actor.
Pacific Rim has meh acting but has mecha. A surprisingly well-done live action mecha. The last one that attempted that (G-Savior) was... well... something.
Really, I was waiting for something akin to Big O's Finale attack.
Grizzlyjin
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You can start warming the crow, but I'm not eating it yet. $400 Million worldwide isn't exactly amazing. After marketing and the worldwide distributors take their cut, isn't that like just maybe breaking even?
I gotta eat crow on World War Z though, that defied all logic and somehow didn't end up being a financial disaster.
I gotta eat crow on World War Z though, that defied all logic and somehow didn't end up being a financial disaster.
It's that same ridiculous Sales-age attitude from the gaming side filtering over. These very people probably hope the PS4 or XBone "bomb" in sales for whatever reason. Those guys don't actually play games, they just talk about them.
Mister Wilhelm
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I highly doubt this.
Its a summer action movie about giant fighting robots. I would flip a table if it was Shakespeare. You knew what you were getting into. Why did you even watch it?
ScientificNinja
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Good for Del Toro, I'm glad PR did well. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I can't wait to buy it on Blu-ray.
HassanJamal
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This means sequel, right? If so
AdventureRacing
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You just repeated exactly what you said before without actually reading my post. I'm well aware that no one is forced to watch a movie and i never said otherwise. I'm saying that if a movie you don't like is really successful it encourages those studios to continue making movies that you don't like. It also may well decrease the chances of them making something you DO like. That's pretty much the crux of why people don't mind seeing a movie they don't like perform poorly.
Perhaps it's a selfish attitude but i was simply explaining why people might feel that way.
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Or an std you would catch in Hawaii.
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