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CrowbCat: Nintendo Switch Painful Launch
- Thread starter J 0 E
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No, you could not use the gamepad as a real handheld, but the Switch is gimped as a home console as a result. Not the kind of trade-off I wanted. The Wii U was a real home console... this is not.
Zombie James
Banned
Depends on if the Switch is a good enough success to even get to that point. There was no Wii U revision.
Same here.
Conkerkid11
Member
Huh? The Switch is more powerful than the Wii U though.
The Wii U being a "real home console" didn't prevent Nintendo from shoehorning in a gimmick that drove the price of the console up to the MSRP of competing consoles, while simultaneously rendering it significantly weaker.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I fail to see how this video is 'over dramatized.' There's a gag at the beginning and another at the end but beyond that the original footage isn't pumped up with extra music or sound effects. I also don't understand your point about the fact that a youtube video is monetized. That means what, exactly? That the problems are presented insincerely? That the video creator is making it all up for that sweet sweet trickle of pennies that comes from youtube views? Just how many dollars is implied by '$$$$$?'
And nowhere does the video suggest everyone is having problems. It's a goof to highlight the pain of early adoption in the tech world.
Just like every other manufacturer? Go check out sony or dells sites if you want to.
Labombadog
Member
Are you me? Don't have any faulty issues but ordered a set of tempered glass protector. Just in case.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Lol..what a piece of shit.
And this is just people making Youtube videos..can only imagine how many Joe Best Buy's are having problems.
And this is just people making Youtube videos..can only imagine how many Joe Best Buy's are having problems.
Papacheeks
Banned
Nothing to this degree on a home console side. Xbox 360 is something that we know that was a huge issue. But that also was 12 years ago. Here we are 2017 and we launched PS4, xbox one with minor issues.
Nothing to the point where people were hooking things up wrong like they are with the joycon's. Spotty signal strength with he joy con's, not having a big enough gap in the dock so your screen doesn't get all marred up.
Not having any software or apps ready for launch. Charging issues.
Though there are the cases with the rubber on dual shocks, no where near as bad has having some of the issues shown in that video and with the reviews that have touched on some of these issues.
The handheld market is more important to them and they consolidated the two into what is a very powerful handheld that can work on the tv. And more powerful than the WiiU. And actual works like the WiiU was meant to. In a much sleeker design.
The WiiU launch was the biggest mess of any major console launch in modern game history. No one understood what it was, either they thought the GamePad would function like expected (along the lines of how Switch works) or they thought it was a Wii accessory. Everything about that launch was a complete disaster.
The WiiU being a failure killed the possibility of Nintendo releasing a pure home console. There was no trying again after that. The only options was merge the console with the handheld into a hybrid or release only a handheld. Releasing another pure console in 2017 after WiiU would have been the worst decision the company could ever make. There was no audience for that anymore, WiiU proved that.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
The Wii didn't either till near the end of its life. It's mostly Nintendo's handhelds that come out of the gate in a somewhat unfinished state and then get improved soon after.
ferrasvansen
Member
Maybe I am your doppelgänger, or maybe just being ultra cautious after all for nearly £300 gotta be careful with this thing. Don't want my playing of Zelda spoiled in any way, having finally rediscovered my gaming passion can't risk losing that feeling cause of scratches.
-Mutsukki-
Member
As expected of any public forum honestly.
Most than half of the people saying "lol beta test" "gotta wait" are people who originally never had any interest in it and honestly just want to see it fail. Yeah it does have legitimate issues with the screen scratching and the joycon strap working upside down. Those are weird and are big oversights. But we got through RRODs, 3DS screens scratching closed and jet engine PS4s so only time will tell.
You could make a case for 360 too back in the day, in like 23 years of video game consoles (counting from the NES) we never had an issue as bad as the RROD. And we were there in 2006 with the PS3 and Wii launching with minor issues. Time is not really a good way to weight these things. I'm aware that I'm talking about a 12 year old issue but ultimately that did not kill the 360 nor made it less worthy.
Jubenhimer
Member
Not trying to say the PS4 or Xbone fared much better. But, it's impossible to deny that the Switch is rushed as hell. Anyone who wants a fully featured, and finished system worth the $300 would be better off waiting until the holidays.
You must be new to CrowbCat videos.
Fbh
Member
Well a lot of these just look like random faulty units.
Remember that if a console sells 1 million units and just 1% of those fail (which is pretty normal) you will still have 10.000 people with issues.
But stuff like the sync issues and scratched screen look like bad design and testing. Combined with the actual online service not being ready and lots of features being said to "come later", this sure seems like a really rushed release. Way more so than the Ps4/X1
Remember that if a console sells 1 million units and just 1% of those fail (which is pretty normal) you will still have 10.000 people with issues.
But stuff like the sync issues and scratched screen look like bad design and testing. Combined with the actual online service not being ready and lots of features being said to "come later", this sure seems like a really rushed release. Way more so than the Ps4/X1
Rodney McKay
Member
Even that's a bit of a crap shoot.
3ds for example: I had the original 3DS and it was built pretty solidly, but it had some hinge wobble when open and the bottom screen scratching the top issue.
Then the 3DS XL came out and mine had a much firmer hinge, but still had the screen scratching issue.
Then the New 3DS XL came out and still had a bit if a hinge wobble, and the screens were inconsistent between using IPS or TN.
The most solid 3DS i have is my Black Friday New 3DS (smaller one) with TN screens, but I still have my XL for the larger screens and IPS screen.
Thankfully my Switch seems very solid and I haven't had issues so far, but I haven't used the dock since I'm afraid about the scratching issue (I'm currently trying to bend it forward a bit to avoid it).
I see the detachable dwarf-sized joycons as a worse gimmick than the gamepad. At least it was comfortable and functioned as a regular controller without detachable pieces. But of course The Switch is more powerful in 2017, yet it is still held back by being primarily a handheld. It's power and features for the price are laughable when compared to what you can get from the competition. More power, storage and regular controller included.
Is that why 3DS is the best selling system of the generation so far?
The HDMI ports being broken issue right? Happened to one guy I knew who got it from Amazon
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Hardware related problems are normal (GPU/Chipsets failures, etc...), design problems like the placement of the charge slot, docks that scratches the screen (because Nintendo went cheap to not include a gorilla glass on the screen + shit dock manufacturing), joyon signal problems, wobbly joycons, mindblowing glaring design issue on the straps, etc.. elevates this from the standard electronic failure rate.
Tomorrow I have to go to buy a screen protector, because the dock is starting to damaging my screen.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Buying consoles day one is a mistake, I usually wait 2 months because of issues like this. Same with my iPhone upgrades.
Yeah its not just the switch having a issue that effects a few its the multiple hardware and software issues, some of these are not just a bad batch some are just straight up design flaws.
You are acting like there is an actual audience for a powerful pure home console from Nintendo in 2017. That audience doesn't exist anymore. Wii U's failure proved that. Last time before that Nintendo did a pure home console with current gen specs was GameCube, which was also a failure kept afloat by the GBA.
Nintendo's success in the handheld market is what kept them afloat. They had literally no choice but to consolidate around the handheld market and latch their console development to the form factor with the Switch.
There were plenty of problems with both the PS4 and the Xbox One, controllers included. But they've been nicely fixed now. Only a few issues such as the dock and the Joy Con strike me as possibly worse. But it's still hard to tell why people are having or not having Joy Con issues.
falconxcrunner09
Member
Yeah, I'm going to wait for a hardware revision. I'm in no rush to get one
It literally sounded like it was counting down. Exploding batteries are next, lol.
My older brother just linked me this video as evidence that Nintendo is a shit company with shitty products.
He is the kind of guy who says Nintendo games are too kiddy for him though and he hates on retro and indie games all the time. It's depressing since we grew up gaming together and I feel like a 35 year old shouldn't be afraid to play 'kiddy' games.
He is the kind of guy who says Nintendo games are too kiddy for him though and he hates on retro and indie games all the time. It's depressing since we grew up gaming together and I feel like a 35 year old shouldn't be afraid to play 'kiddy' games.
The musical console chairs were eventually taken by Sony and Microsoft. No more space now.
Only a matter of time before handheld is entirely swept by smart devices.
Does strap really get stuck? When I watched Giant Bomb's launch stream, they were able to remove it and put it back on properly. Although, this was also the same Switch that Jeff dropped so the Joy Cons are really loose on his Switch and can be pulled off without using the latch.
https://youtu.be/hZsFz42kYt8?t=4119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pln9CL8eYTQ
https://youtu.be/hZsFz42kYt8?t=4119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pln9CL8eYTQ
Ricerocket
Member
No one at Nintendo seems to have tested the Joy con straps on backwards if they allow that to happen.
SirClinksAlot
Member
Yeah almost every Switch commercial I have seen is mostly just showing fucking Mario Kart... a game not even out yet.
Yeah, some sorts of hardware issues early on are pretty expected, although it doesn't really remove the sting for early adopters. t think the biggest strike against the Switch is the scratching issues. That's a built-in flaw that should never have shipped, considering it's the headlining feature of the entire console. It's bizarre they never tested it, or designed the dock to have that frontispiece in the first place.
It would have been like Kinect usage on the XB1 melting your processor with use or something like it
instead of just being useless a year after launch 
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I refuse to believe that thing costs more than 5 bucks to make. And they can't even make the pieces a straight line.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Nintendo..put this in the manual.
NoctisVsStar
Member
That's the sentiment for a lot of people, I haven't seen a grown man with a Nintendo console in ages (unless it's for their children)