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CrowbCat: Nintendo Switch Painful Launch
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Dash_Riprock
Member
$90 for that PoS dock that's 95% plastic and scratches your screen.
Ninety Dollars.
Nintendo, go home. You're drunk.
Ninety Dollars.
Nintendo, go home. You're drunk.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It's so fun to go back to the reveal thread and see how excited everyone was for this thing.
$90 buys you the dock, a HDMI cable, and the AC Adapter.
I'm not arguing that that's the price it should be but saying $90 is "just the dock" is factually incorrect.
$90 buys you the dock, a HDMI cable, and the AC Adapter.
I'm not arguing that that's the price it should be but saying $90 is "just the dock" is factually incorrect.
M_A_C
Member
So is my launch Switch.
I love Crowbcat videos but to take them as fact or the norm is the wrong way to watch them.
That was the olden days. Notice what's different?
Old:
New:
What am I looking for? :S
---ah nvm you fixed it lol.
Yeah these videos make people think these issues are actually widespread which is far from the case.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It happens with every new tech product release. If one or two people have an issue suddenly it's every unit that's flawed in some way. Happens with practically every new notebook that Apple releases.
Icebergslim
Banned
Would it have been like this if Iwata was still around.
GravityInsanity
Member
I just got a Switch today and this video worries me. I hope I don't have to deal with this.
So you are saying some people have better docks that don't scratch the screen? Or straps that can't be put on the wrong way?
paragonpro
Banned
I cant stand how negative this guy is. He seems like the kind of guy that no matter what happens video game related hes never going to be happy. Some of his videos are funny, but his whole channel is just oppresively negative
I saw someone post a picture of two docks he had, one was more bent (inwards) than the other (and I would assume more likely to cause scratches because of it).
Most people don't have the dock issue, that isn't even a question.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
I'm going to buy one come summer, so hopefully these issues will be ironed out by then. I don't imagine they are too widespread, just unfortunate for those unlucky few who get stuck with a defective unit.
malboroking
Banned
Dude, what is your problem? You are literally being the old man yelling at clouds. Yes, every generation after yours are just entitled twats. When everyone else is an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.
Gotta love that quality control.
Why must you turn this thread into a house of lies?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1349599
You realize that thread has people saying they are unable to replicate it and have no issues?
The lie would be to say every single Switch is having dock scratching problems. I own a Switch, it isn't scratching mine at all and I have taken it out in portable mode countless times.
Happens with every launch of a product. How many switches were sold? This is a spotlight on 2% of switches.
hold on let me just write down that url
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https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Troubleshooting/There-are-black-or-bright-dots-on-the-Nintendo-Switch-screen-that-do-not-go-away-or-there-are-dark-or-light-patches-on-the-screen-/There-are-black-or-bright-dots-on-the-Nintendo-Switch-screen-that-do-not-go-away-or-there-are-dark-or-light-patches-on-the-screen--1201195.htmlWe live in a age where mass consumer electronics are stamped out by the same factories by the millions... a percent of said units being failed is a given. I don't care if your buying an new apple product or a switch. I find it silly to debate these product deformities, they will always exist in a Foxconn like model.
You can argue component expense and investment, IE... the dock is a rip off. The plastic for the stand is cheap feeling/could have used a sturdy material.
The true fails are design flaws. The joycon strap going on backwards is a fail. The dock potentially scratching the screen is a fail (hasn't scratched mine or anyone else's I know). For what it's worth those are also pretty easy fixes.
The switch is launching pretty bare bones as a premium item for one of the best games ever made. If you care for Zelda or want to try Zelda to the degree of investing a few hundred dollars. Even with the security that you'll get Nintendo games, The console screams at you from purchase, early adopter. Just realizing this after launch is a bit maddening...
You can argue component expense and investment, IE... the dock is a rip off. The plastic for the stand is cheap feeling/could have used a sturdy material.
The true fails are design flaws. The joycon strap going on backwards is a fail. The dock potentially scratching the screen is a fail (hasn't scratched mine or anyone else's I know). For what it's worth those are also pretty easy fixes.
The switch is launching pretty bare bones as a premium item for one of the best games ever made. If you care for Zelda or want to try Zelda to the degree of investing a few hundred dollars. Even with the security that you'll get Nintendo games, The console screams at you from purchase, early adopter. Just realizing this after launch is a bit maddening...
Infernal Monkey
Member
Being able to slide the straps on the wrong way so easily is such a baffling oversight. I did it once already and it felt like the Joycon was going to shatter trying to get it back off again. Obviously my bad, but the fact it just went on like normal is pretty terrible.
LordKasual
Banned
jesus christ he isn't adding those sound effects in post?
this has to be an individual experience, right???
this has to be an individual experience, right???
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
To be fair, you're looking at a thread with, what, a little over 1000 unique posters?
Over half of which have only posted once. (Likely drive-by posts.)
And with only a quarter to a third of which having actually bought the switch.
So you're looking at a sampling of maybe 100 Switch owners in that thread tops, many of which don't have any issues.
And assuming that even 100 people in that thread all had the screen scratching issue you're looking at less than 1% of the current Switch owners.
It's a bit disingenuous to call that "most people".
The screen/hardware glitches seem very very isolated.
The joy-con straps are kinda dumb, the video showing you how to fix it seemed pretty easy enough though.
Hopefully there is a handheld only version by the end of the year. The dock is an ugly hunk of plastic that is apparently worth $60, seems like a huge marketing misstep from Nintendo. It would have been better IMO to package 1-2 Switch or Zelda in with it and have the dock as a separate accessory.
The joy-con straps are kinda dumb, the video showing you how to fix it seemed pretty easy enough though.
Hopefully there is a handheld only version by the end of the year. The dock is an ugly hunk of plastic that is apparently worth $60, seems like a huge marketing misstep from Nintendo. It would have been better IMO to package 1-2 Switch or Zelda in with it and have the dock as a separate accessory.
Hell, he didn't even say most Switches (which is obviously not close to the truth) but said every single Switch is faulty and scratching the screen. A 100% defective rate,
Papacheeks
Banned
The dock scratching the actual switch unit is a straight up design flaw. Same with the joycon's that can not be fixed unless they make changes in manufacturing.
That's what people in this thread are not grasping. Xbox one, PS4 didn't have people scratching the shit out of their consoles when they hooked up cables to it.
I think there's a lot of reasons for revision, mostly QoL.
Ergonomics (specifically right analog position), design flaws (location of usb port, dock, joycons straps), build quality (dock, kickstand), connectivity issues from hardware flaws, etc.
D-Pad in the box.
I would actually love a smaller handheld-only model with improved battery and no JoyCons for a smaller price.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I would have preferred a console-only version myself. That way I could build up and play a decent Switch library and then once 3DS support dries up and I don't have anything new to take on the go with me I could purchase a Switch handheld and have an instant library of things to play.
I feel like we are going in circles here. Many of the issues aren't just quality control problems, they are design flaws.
-USB port at the bottom so you can't charge Switch while it's standing on a table
-badly designed dock that scratches the screen (which doesn't have Gorilla Glass or any other protection)
-badly designed joycon straps that are easily put on the wrong way and hard to remove
-hitches that hold the joycons in place aren't made of very durable material
-weak signal of the left joycon that's easily disrupted
-lack of bluetooth for headsets
-lack of headphone jack on the pro controller
-Lack of d-pad
-USB port at the bottom so you can't charge Switch while it's standing on a table
-badly designed dock that scratches the screen (which doesn't have Gorilla Glass or any other protection)
-badly designed joycon straps that are easily put on the wrong way and hard to remove
-hitches that hold the joycons in place aren't made of very durable material
-weak signal of the left joycon that's easily disrupted
-lack of bluetooth for headsets
-lack of headphone jack on the pro controller
-Lack of d-pad
Ploid 3.0
Member
I went to their VOD to watch that moment. Poor Becky. I kind of wish they did invite the others to be there, just for the added awkwardness. He's happy he didn't but I'm sure it would have turned out fine, where he was bummed out, they would have probably cheered him up or made things entertaining with jokes.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Didn't the PS4 have controllers where the rubber wore off the analog sticks extremely quickly?
Yikes. Not touching it with a ten-foot pole until I hear that they've fixed these problems.
Welp. That's even worse than I originally thought.
Welp. That's even worse than I originally thought.
The USB port really isn't a design flaw as if it was at the top then it would block the fans. And even if you flipped the fans to the bottom insteads of top and put the switch in the dock upside down you wouldn't be able to take the joycons out when it was docked. It was put there for a reason.
Yes, mine did. Just the first batch. That's a production issue. JoyCons, dock and position of elements seem to be glaring design flaws.
MetalliCabombination
Member
The dock has single handedly indefinitely delayed my purchase. Its just painful to watch.
90 bucks for that what in the hell?
90 bucks for that what in the hell?
Papacheeks
Banned
Finally some sanity in this thread.
Yea I have to concur on the issue being a design flaw in the dock, and joycon's.
I don't understand why they didn't opt for a cradle setup with the USB-C connection in the middle but had it open instead of trying to make it look like a box.
Controller is easy to swap out under warranty or just flat our replace, it sucks but it's 40-60 dollars opposed to sending a whole console in for repair if they honor it for a fucked up screen. This is a huge design flaw.
If it was a design flaw then the screen would scratch a lot or all of Switch units, instead of just a few handful of people having it happen due to bent docks. If you read the Switch threads you would see the vast majority state they have no issues with scratching.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Oh my that's funny.
I hope Nintendo gets fucked for releasing this piece of shit of a hardware. I hope it does worse than the Wii U.
I hope Nintendo gets fucked for releasing this piece of shit of a hardware. I hope it does worse than the Wii U.
That was astonishing. It looks like atraight garbage, indefensible pricepoint.
Would make sense if it had an upscaler.
Obnoxious post, man. They deserve criticism but this is childish.
About that...
newtypepilot
Member
a lot of these flaws should've been rectified before manufacturing takes place. It just shows that Nintendo rushed the Switch to satisfy its shareholders.
While a separate upscaler would have been nice to supplement the Switch's upclocking, USB-C docks are generally around the same price range.
Its so they can inevitably sell more extortionate accessories that "fix" the oversight... like this...
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.co...ndo-switch-nsw-029u1.jpg?quality=80&strip=all
Papacheeks
Banned
I thought originally that's what they were going for. Especially if you could buy docks that had more ports or SD card storage.
But your getting a piece of plastic and a simple board with USB,HDMI, DC power.
Hope this get's revised sooner rather than later. As in within this year.