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[Crowbcat] overpromise, sell, underdeliver Cyberpunk 2077

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40 minutes long folks
This gonna be good


" All gameplay footage is original, recorded on PC (ultra settings) and console (PS4 Slim). ------- Commentary & Credits (in order of appearance, see complementary sources after this) ------- IGN https://www.youtube.com/c/IGN Easy Allies https://www.youtube.com/c/easyallies YongYea https://www.youtube.com/c/YongYea thegameawards https://www.youtube.com/c/thegameawards Noclip https://www.youtube.com/c/NoclipVideo ReviewTechUSA https://www.youtube.com/c/ReviewTechUSA GameSpot https://www.youtube.com/c/gamespot RedGamingTech https://www.youtube.com/c/RedGamingTech Continuous Delivery https://www.youtube.com/c/ContinuousD... GamerHubTV https://www.youtube.com/user/GamerHub... Alanah Pearce https://www.youtube.com/c/CharAlanahZard ControllerLyfe https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfEF... Skill Up https://www.youtube.com/c/SkillUp HGamingArena https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJOO... TheQuartering https://www.youtube.com/c/TheQuartering Michael Does Life https://www.youtube.com/c/MichaelDoes... Synthetic Man https://www.youtube.com/c/SyntheticMan YoungRippa59 https://www.youtube.com/c/youngrippa59 FudgeMuppet https://www.youtube.com/c/FudgeMuppet SurrealBeliefs https://www.youtube.com/c/Surrealbeliefs WhyBeAre https://www.youtube.com/c/WhyBeAre Chris Rivera https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_B... MotekTV https://www.youtube.com/c/MOTEKTV Dark Titan Enterprises - Vara Dark https://www.youtube.com/c/DarkTitanEn... Hoeg Law https://www.youtube.com/c/HoegLaw LegacyKillaHD https://www.youtube.com/c/LegacyKillaHD New Game Plus https://www.youtube.com/c/NewGamePlusTV gameslice https://www.youtube.com/c/Gameslice ------- Complementary sources link ------- 00:46 Noclip https://youtu.be/deB5opzbjSE 00:58 ReviewTechUSA https://youtu.be/phL652tENOs 03:46 IGN https://youtu.be/FIHH8fCAzNI 07:36 RedGamingTech https://youtu.be/nnX0BMOLisc 08:35 Continuous Delivery https://youtu.be/E-jGEtqB4wU 09:05 GamerHubTV https://youtu.be/HeiLf1qu9bE 10:55 ControllerLyfe https://youtu.be/LuoU0M-nDco 11:23 IGN https://youtu.be/Z4Uz1X6raSA 12:13 ReviewTechUSA https://youtu.be/TVV6LfkODRA 12:23 HGamingArena https://youtu.be/3a5ok3r-Wb4 12:46 TheQuartering https://youtu.be/BIgWDUmohqE 14:02 YongYea https://youtu.be/0Gzlx3ZRmIQ 14:08 Michael Does Life https://youtu.be/YUy5I1jeKTE 15:19 Synthetic Man https://youtu.be/PHZhZvFG040 21:29 YoungRippa59 https://youtu.be/xEGpwAReGho 22:21 FudgeMuppet https://youtu.be/K7JGQ3sCIl0 23:06 SurrealBeliefs https://youtu.be/neGBidDJVYU 23:42 WhyBeAre https://youtu.be/LoIIhms1M4M 24:39 Chris Rivera https://youtu.be/TqaC-5doduM 30:30 MotekTV https://youtu.be/DI6YFfJ-trM 34:42 GameSpot https://youtu.be/xC7AxyYJIgU 35:36 Dark Titan Enterprises - Vara Dark https://youtu.be/4pwkMUrCI1Y 35:50 Hoeg Law https://youtu.be/_qXytLM4Gv8 36:20 YongYea https://youtu.be/5waFS_OPvqc 36:30 Continuous Delivery https://youtu.be/E-jGEtqB4wU 37:08 New Game Plus https://youtu.be/Z111xsBXhN4 38:02 gameslice https://youtu.be/eiN9WibHcS8 -------- Songs ------- Been Good to Know Ya - Marcin Przybyłowicz Bells of Laguna Bend - Paul Leonard-Morgan Outsider No More - P.T. Adamczyk The Suits Are Scared - Paul Leonard-Morgan Consumer Cathedral - Marcin Przybyłowicz Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake Cover - SquidPhysics https://youtu.be/bNptL6LAg5A ISOMETRIC AIR - Bryan Aspey & Quantum Lovers Mining Minds - Paul Leonard-Morgan Streetfighters - Marcin Przybyłowicz Pathompong Thitithan - [Cover] Bullets - Archive https://youtu.be/rrbWM-mrhtY "


 
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rofif

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Even if the game did not had bugs, it's a bad rpg and a terrible open world game... Graphics are great, story is okish, writing is good, characters are also good for most part but it's no bethesda, bioware or witcher 3 when it comes to game as a whole. It's less than sum of it's parts sadly.
I finished it and I don't feel the time was wasted but it's like 6/10. Maybe 7 if there were no bugs, better performance and at least fixed police, npcs and basic stuff.

Btw, technical question - why do low LOD assets even load in many games up close?
You often see building, vehicles and characters go through super low, low, medium, high poly lod models when loading the game or like in 2077 - everywhere.
Isn't it a waste of resources, especially on a console which does not have quality settings, to cycle all the LOD models instead of focusing all the loading time of assets to just show high poly model?
What's the pint of loading all those low poly models ? Doesn't it take time from loading high poly model? I Know it's not addative and the model is replaced each time, so it's super weird.
 
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rofif

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The Alanah(ugh) and Yongyea hyped this game like if there was no tomorrow.
Absolutely ZERO critical look at the preview... So they were either too hyped, paid off (I don't think so) or the version they got to play was a vertical slice which is unlikely since it was few hours long
 
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This gon be gud.
The Alanah(ugh) and Yongyea hyped this game like if there was no tomorrow.
Absolutely ZERO critical look at the preview... So they were either too hyped, paid off (I don't think so) or the version they got to play was a vertical slice which is unlikely since it was few hours long
YongYea is one of the biggest youtube shills to exist. Guy has no backbone whatsoever.
 
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The Alanah(ugh) and Yongyea hyped this game like if there was no tomorrow.

YongYea is one of the biggest youtube shills to exist. Guy has no backbone whatsoever.
From the little I know about him:
this guy follows the popular opinion about trends
if people are attacking, he does a video attacking too, if people hypes, he will hype too
 

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40 minutes long folks
This gonna be good


" All gameplay footage is original, recorded on PC (ultra settings) and console (PS4 Slim). ------- Commentary & Credits (in order of appearance, see complementary sources after this) ------- IGN https://www.youtube.com/c/IGN Easy Allies https://www.youtube.com/c/easyallies YongYea https://www.youtube.com/c/YongYea thegameawards https://www.youtube.com/c/thegameawards Noclip https://www.youtube.com/c/NoclipVideo ReviewTechUSA https://www.youtube.com/c/ReviewTechUSA GameSpot https://www.youtube.com/c/gamespot RedGamingTech https://www.youtube.com/c/RedGamingTech Continuous Delivery https://www.youtube.com/c/ContinuousD... GamerHubTV https://www.youtube.com/user/GamerHub... Alanah Pearce https://www.youtube.com/c/CharAlanahZard ControllerLyfe https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfEF... Skill Up https://www.youtube.com/c/SkillUp HGamingArena https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJOO... TheQuartering https://www.youtube.com/c/TheQuartering Michael Does Life https://www.youtube.com/c/MichaelDoes... Synthetic Man https://www.youtube.com/c/SyntheticMan YoungRippa59 https://www.youtube.com/c/youngrippa59 FudgeMuppet https://www.youtube.com/c/FudgeMuppet SurrealBeliefs https://www.youtube.com/c/Surrealbeliefs WhyBeAre https://www.youtube.com/c/WhyBeAre Chris Rivera https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_B... MotekTV https://www.youtube.com/c/MOTEKTV Dark Titan Enterprises - Vara Dark https://www.youtube.com/c/DarkTitanEn... Hoeg Law https://www.youtube.com/c/HoegLaw LegacyKillaHD https://www.youtube.com/c/LegacyKillaHD New Game Plus https://www.youtube.com/c/NewGamePlusTV gameslice https://www.youtube.com/c/Gameslice ------- Complementary sources link ------- 00:46 Noclip https://youtu.be/deB5opzbjSE 00:58 ReviewTechUSA https://youtu.be/phL652tENOs 03:46 IGN https://youtu.be/FIHH8fCAzNI 07:36 RedGamingTech https://youtu.be/nnX0BMOLisc 08:35 Continuous Delivery https://youtu.be/E-jGEtqB4wU 09:05 GamerHubTV https://youtu.be/HeiLf1qu9bE 10:55 ControllerLyfe https://youtu.be/LuoU0M-nDco 11:23 IGN https://youtu.be/Z4Uz1X6raSA 12:13 ReviewTechUSA https://youtu.be/TVV6LfkODRA 12:23 HGamingArena https://youtu.be/3a5ok3r-Wb4 12:46 TheQuartering https://youtu.be/BIgWDUmohqE 14:02 YongYea https://youtu.be/0Gzlx3ZRmIQ 14:08 Michael Does Life https://youtu.be/YUy5I1jeKTE 15:19 Synthetic Man https://youtu.be/PHZhZvFG040 21:29 YoungRippa59 https://youtu.be/xEGpwAReGho 22:21 FudgeMuppet https://youtu.be/K7JGQ3sCIl0 23:06 SurrealBeliefs https://youtu.be/neGBidDJVYU 23:42 WhyBeAre https://youtu.be/LoIIhms1M4M 24:39 Chris Rivera https://youtu.be/TqaC-5doduM 30:30 MotekTV https://youtu.be/DI6YFfJ-trM 34:42 GameSpot https://youtu.be/xC7AxyYJIgU 35:36 Dark Titan Enterprises - Vara Dark https://youtu.be/4pwkMUrCI1Y 35:50 Hoeg Law https://youtu.be/_qXytLM4Gv8 36:20 YongYea https://youtu.be/5waFS_OPvqc 36:30 Continuous Delivery https://youtu.be/E-jGEtqB4wU 37:08 New Game Plus https://youtu.be/Z111xsBXhN4 38:02 gameslice https://youtu.be/eiN9WibHcS8 -------- Songs ------- Been Good to Know Ya - Marcin Przybyłowicz Bells of Laguna Bend - Paul Leonard-Morgan Outsider No More - P.T. Adamczyk The Suits Are Scared - Paul Leonard-Morgan Consumer Cathedral - Marcin Przybyłowicz Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake Cover - SquidPhysics https://youtu.be/bNptL6LAg5A ISOMETRIC AIR - Bryan Aspey & Quantum Lovers Mining Minds - Paul Leonard-Morgan Streetfighters - Marcin Przybyłowicz Pathompong Thitithan - [Cover] Bullets - Archive https://youtu.be/rrbWM-mrhtY "
Just finished watching. He absolutely destroyed that game. I didn't even realize they lied about apartments among other things, wow.

He also used a Michael Does Life voice-over, let's go!

Fucking lego city traffic system is better, LOL!
 

Keihart

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Good fucking video. Watching the trailers and promotional "gameplay" makes the final game look so fucking rough, the final game it's not even close to that, not visually or feature wise. I didn't follow the hype before release, but now i get it, they hyped the shit out of it.
 
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In the lawsuit all they need to do was show that and the Judge can finish.
I would laugh so hard if Crowbact receives an e-mail from some legal team asking permission to use his video
no, I would PAY to watch the hearing

It's a great game, it has an excellent 2 player co-op as well. 80+ hours


is it? because I was looking for some good co-op to play with a friend
nice to know
 
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The Hamburglar

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Honest question about this game. I’m 10 hours in on pc and have quit for now the game just isn’t what I thought it was (nothing to do with bugs).

I was expecting this huge city open world
RPG where you were going to make a name for yourself with obviously a story along the way. I was expecting a better fallout. With gang and corpo factions you could align with and have complete separate side quest chains like being with the legion in new Vegas. Yeah there’s this huge city to explore with loads markers to check out but it feels life less. Most of the side content I’ve experienced have been run of the mill side quests and those random side jobs you can do too.
The best missions so far have been the main storyline, but that’s usually after loads of cringe dialogue and options you can pick that ultimately have no affect on the outcome. Does it get any better?
It really doesn’t feel any better than the average open world RPG, has surprising good fps combat tbh.
Have I missed some deep meaningful full side quest chains?

I’m watching the op video
Now
 

waquzy

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Honest question about this game. I’m 10 hours in on pc and have quit for now the game just isn’t what I thought it was (nothing to do with bugs).

I was expecting this huge city open world
RPG where you were going to make a name for yourself with obviously a story along the way. I was expecting a better fallout. With gang and corpo factions you could align with and have complete separate side quest chains like being with the legion in new Vegas. Yeah there’s this huge city to explore with loads markers to check out but it feels life less. Most of the side content I’ve experienced have been run of the mill side quests and those random side jobs you can do too.
The best missions so far have been the main storyline, but that’s usually after loads of cringe dialogue and options you can pick that ultimately have no affect on the outcome. Does it get any better?
It really doesn’t feel any better than the average open world RPG, has surprising good fps combat tbh.
Have I missed some deep meaningful full side quest chains?

I’m watching the op video
Now
Keep playing it mate, if there is one thing that is a saving grace, it's the story, it's pretty damn good actually. I also like Johnny Silverhand, people say that Keanu's voiceover is a letdown etc, but I disagree, to me he is one of the strongest characters in the game.

But yeah, just keep playing it, it ain't all bad.
 

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Btw, technical question - why do low LOD assets even load in many games up close?
You often see building, vehicles and characters go through super low, low, medium, high poly lod models when loading the game or like in 2077 - everywhere.
Isn't it a waste of resources, especially on a console which does not have quality settings, to cycle all the LOD models instead of focusing all the loading time of assets to just show high poly model?
What's the pint of loading all those low poly models ? Doesn't it take time from loading high poly model? I Know it's not addative and the model is replaced each time, so it's super weird.
Not sure I follow, should what you suggested result in the player seeing nothing (assume loading the high poly takes enough time) but things like terrain when they do a quick 360?
 

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I wonder how the Cybercukcs defense force will try to spin this video
They will probably just ignore the thread and keep trashing Jason since this is all they can do

There really is no defense against this, the people that are rabidly defending are taking it like any criticism against either cdpr or the game as a personal attack against them. Triple A gaming has been a joke for a long time now with the amount of shit devs get away with in charging full price for something thats basically an open beta release. This whole release now fix later shit has been toxic and i think is finally the start of been the straw that breaks the camels back for some people.

It's quite apparent what cdpr did, they had millions tied up in preorders a lot of that money was for the console versions. They damn well knew it was a broken piece of shit so they actively placed embargos on any console footage been released till after release day so by then it would be too late for customers, all that lovely preorder money would be cdpr's and tough shit for anyone who bought on console. If people had actually gotten to see any footage of how it ran before release that preorder money would have been quickly refunded, hence them doing everything to hide it from players with that showreel of cherry picked sizzle footage. They got enough youtube shills and review site shills to cover this up by all the glowing praise while glossing over the console version, which is why only after non paid players actually got to experience this and the backlash started and review sites started to backpeddle and start pretending that they had all these concerns despite them all gushing over it before hand.

cdpr thought their reputation and player good will would be enough to ride this out while they finished making patches to complete the game. They could have easily have avoided any of this completely by just releasing it and clearly saying it was an open beta release and that people will experience bugs. Instead they tried to pass it off as a finished retail game and got burned, considering after all this time there are still people that go on about how betrayed they were with no mans sky i don't think the good will can be won back for a lot of people any time soon. Look how fast it's fallen off the charts already.
 
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The part about the NPCs with realistic 24 hour lives killed me.
The guy in the wheelchair (the one stuck in a car) and the other that starts running were the moments when I lost it and started laughing hard

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Sorry folks, I won't be able to participate here anymore since someone felt attacked because I used the word "cuck".
Gaf becoming Era is a surprise to me.

From now this thread will be a "safe space" for everyone. Have a nice day.







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OnionSnake

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There really is no defense against this, the people that are rabidly defending are taking it like any criticism against either cdpr or the game as a personal attack against them. Triple A gaming has been a joke for a long time now with the amount of shit devs get away with in charging full price for something thats basically an open beta release. This whole release now fix later shit has been toxic.

It's quite apparent what cdpr did, they had millions tied up in preorders a lot of that money was for the console versions. They damn well knew it was a broken piece of shit so they actively placed embargos on any console footage been released till after release day so by then it would be too late for customers, all that lovely preorder money would be cdpr's and tough shit for anyone who bought on console. If people had actually gotten to see any footage of how it ran before release that preorder money would have been quickly refunded, hence them doing everything to hide it from players with that showreel of cherry picked sizzle. They got enough youtube shills and review site shills to cover this up by all the glowing praise while glossing over the console version, which is why only after non paid players actually got to experience this and the backlash started and review sites started to backpeddle and start pretending that they had all these concerns despite them all gushing over it before hand.

cdpr thought their reputation and player good will would be enough to ride this out while they finished making patches to complete the game. They could have easily have avoided any of this completely by just releasing it and clearly saying it was an open beta release and that people will experience bugs. Instead they tried to pass it off as a finished retail game and got burned, considering after all this time there are still people that go on about how betrayed they were with no mans sky i don't think the good will can be won back by a lot of people any time soon. Look how fast it's fallen off the charts already.

I really am not sure if a AAA title could launch in early access successfully. Saying "we are delaying the game until April 2021, but current preorder holders will be allowed to play early versions of the game on monthly releases" would have been an interesting movie though.
 
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rofif

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Not sure I follow, should what you suggested result in the player seeing nothing (assume loading the high poly takes enough time) but things like terrain when they do a quick 360?
I was thinking, that instead of taking time to load 3 models one after another in very quick succession, maybe there would be a possibility to shorten the time of loading high quality model?
But you are probably right and ... there would be just nothing before high quality model loaded