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Crysis 2 - Full dev. build leaks online.

Blizzard said:
If there had not had an employee leak it/been hacked, and if they had used Steamworks, there would be essentially ZERO chance of a leak before release date. If there had been a leak, no one could have played it.

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So it would have been leaked a couple days after....those people who were gonna pirate it would know this and would have pirated it. Steamworks doesn't stop piracy
 
MikeE21286 said:
So it would have been leaked a couple days after....those people who were gonna pirate it would know this and would have pirated it. Steamworks doesn't stop piracy
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There's a difference between being leaked two weeks early (as you claimed) and being mostly leaked over a month early (which happened) and being leaked two days after (which you just now said). I don't think I ever said Steamworks stopped piracy, only prerelease piracy... And as has been stated in this thread, it should be obvious that if a game becomes available to everyone easily over a month ahead of time, it's going to really tempt people (such as the one banned guy already in this thread) to play through it, even if they would have bought it otherwise.

Maybe they'll still buy it. We'll have to see how it plays out in the end. Unfortunately, I don't know of any way we can accurately make a cause and effect statement even in the end.
 
Blizzard said:
If there had not had an employee leak it/been hacked, and if they had used Steamworks, there would be essentially ZERO chance of a leak before release date. If there had been a leak, no one could have played it.
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100% true. But we're dealing with EA here.
 
epmode said:
100% true. But we're dealing with EA here.
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Unfortunately, yes. At least modern-day EA will hopefully not do more than revokable install limits (i.e. Warhead), as opposed to the stupid Crysis 1 system, where on Steam I think I only have 1-2 installs left.
 
antonz said:
Reading comments on the torrent sites the game being too console like is a very common complaint. That alone will demolish PC sales
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If that's the case, then good. The implication that hiding what kind of game they have and tricking people into buying something they might not have wanted through digital download services is filthy.

However, if that news were going to demolish PC sales, then wouldn't early reviews have done the same damage? Unless they didn't allow for early reviews for that reason, which is similarly disgusting.

That being said, must suck to come in to work or get a phone call at night and get this news. However as someone said before, 360 games leak way in advance, in their complete forms, and they often sell just fine. Crysis 2'll do fine.
 
antonz said:
Reading comments on the torrent sites the game being too console like is a very common complaint. That alone will demolish PC sales
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I am not sure it makes sense to condemn the dumb decisions that a pirate (as scum of the earth) makes who got the game for free, and suddenly care what they think of that free game that is a beta. They are thieving bastards with no care about anything. Can't seem to give a fuck what they think really.

Not that they are wrong just...seems like a mini/max kind of thing though.
They are losers making stupid decisions, can't see thinking they suddenly know how to review a game. But maybe they are right who knows I guess.

IMHO only.
 
mescalineeyes said:
judging by some youtube videos this looks insanely good.

for what its worth, the leak sold me on the game, which crytek themselves didn't manage.



not to mention EA LT in Spain, but those guys were shipped in to Frankfurt to test on site, which might not necessarily the case for Crysis 2.
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Same for me I was pretty uninterested in it till I saw some of the videos.
 
I just don't get this does anybody know what happened ?? how does someone accidently leak an entire game almost a month before release date?
 
shagg_187 said:
From what I've heard, links have been taken down slowly. Sucks for Crytek though. Doesn't effect me since I am buying it day one on PC! :D
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Slowly is not gonna be good enough it's out and people are alleready posting spoilers on youtube
 
Karak said:
I am not sure it makes sense to condemn the dumb decisions that a pirate (as scum of the earth) makes who got the game for free, and suddenly care what they think of that free game that is a beta. They are thieving bastards with no care about anything. Can't seem to give a fuck what they think really.

Not that they are wrong just...seems like a mini/max kind of thing though.
They are losers making stupid decisions, can't see thinking they suddenly know how to review a game. But maybe they are right who knows I guess.

IMHO only.
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To be fair, reviewing games is pretty hard, alot of people who get paid for it don't know how either!
 
If there's one positive thing to come from this leak, it's that I know that this game for PC has the potential to look pretty darn awesome like the first game. The footage I've seen of the console versions hasn't quite blown me away. I am totally much more interested in buying this for PC when it comes out now though.
 
Hrm..

I don't think this will really affect console sales at all, and hell it probably won't affect PC sales either. The people who were going to pirate it in a month are going to pirate it now, the people who plan on buying it will most likely do so anyways.

Major security leak though.
 
Have maxed out DX9 PC shots been released yet? No links just a yes or no answer.

MikeE21286 said:
I read that it's only DX9 ?

So I guess any maxed out shots would not be truly "maxed out".
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Obviously, but they'd still look good. Original question still stands.
 
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bathala said:
and that's the last straw Crytek makes a PC game :P
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If pre-release leaks were a reason to abandon a platform, every single Xbox 360 developer would have stopped making 360 games years ago. It seems like every 360 release makes newgroups 2 weeks to 1 month before they hit shelves.
 
Anyone claiming that this will hurt Crytek in a way so severe that it would put future PC releases in jeopardy needs to get a fucking grip.

1) Crysis encountered problems even more severe. The game was leaked at least 1-2 weeks before release. Not quite as much time, but still just as damaging.

2) The Crysis leak was far more damaging since it was a full, complete game. This leak is of an old, buggy, incomplete build.


And 3, most importantly, is this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417692

Crysis sold more than 3 million copies despite having a more serious leak problem than Crysis 2


Yeah, this might hurt. Yeah, Crytek will bitch about PC piracy. Yeah, it won't help their image.

But hell no, Crytek isn't going to stop doing stuff on PC at this point. That would just be fucking stupid.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
It sounds like it includes the DRM key for the final release though.

I would feel worse about this if Crytek weren't such crybabies about the first Crysis piracy/PC sales even after it did over a million. Now something like this happening is just funny.
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Its now over 3 million. There was a thread about it.
 
GraveRobberX said:
Aren't there security steps these multi-million dollar companies try to keep from these leaks happening

I mean just cause you don't do in-house steps and let a third party assist to do them for you, shouldn't you have certain requirements/priorities set-up to counter it

This is Crytek's fault for even letting this take place, I feel sorry for those who worked hard, and tried to put on a showcase of their talents/skills, but if you don't cover all your bases, and don't look out/around, someone will steal, and it might be all the way from 1st all the way to home (baseball analogy)
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I'm far from an expert, but I can tell you from some experience that large-scale game projects - and the files required to run a working copy - are handled by hundreds of people. Which I guess is part of what you're saying, actually. But yeah, most people on the inside don't want to ruin their career, so they wouldn't risk getting caught. Of course it COULD be someone at Crytek or EA, but personally I doubt it.

My theory is that this crime was perpetrated by an employee on the periphery of game development - one of the folks who sets up the master DVD burn at a distribution center, for example. Someone wholly unrelated to Crytek or EA.

The only wrinkle in my theory so far is the debug text in the corner that I've seen in screenshots. Though if there's a console command to enable that in Crysis 1 (I don't know if there is), it could be the same in Crysis 2.
 
A dick (pirate) will be a dick no matter what.

I'm purchasing this game for the PC and I will enjoy my purchase. Anyone that pirates it, for WHATEVER reason, can suck my left nut after they drink a bottle of urine.

Don't worry Crytek. Your support for the PC will get my money.
 
ThaddeusMcGee said:
I'm far from an expert, but I can tell you from some experience that large-scale game projects - and the files required to run a working copy - are handled by hundreds of people. Which I guess is part of what you're saying, actually. But yeah, most people on the inside don't want to ruin their career, so they wouldn't risk getting caught. Of course it COULD be someone at Crytek or EA, but personally I doubt it.

My theory is that this crime was perpetrated by an employee on the periphery of game development - one of the folks who sets up the master DVD burn at a distribution center, for example. Someone wholly unrelated to Crytek or EA.

The only wrinkle in my theory so far is the debug text in the corner that I've seen in screenshots. Though if there's a console command to enable that in Crysis 1 (I don't know if there is), it could be the same in Crysis 2.
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This is a BETA dev build, it's highly unlikely to be someone outside Crytek or EA as these sorts of files would never leave them. Reviewers, disc manufacturers, digital distibutors etc. wouldn't receive these types of files.

Also you can enable the debug text very easily in Crysis 1 as well.
 
Mr_Brit said:
This is a BETA dev build, it's highly unlikely to be someone outside Crytek or EA as these sorts of files would never leave them. Reviewers, disc manufacturers, digital distibutors etc. wouldn't receive these types of files.

Also you can enable the debug text very easily in Crysis 1 as well.
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Right, I forgot about the leak being Beta. Apologies, I replied thinking they'd gone Gold at this point.
 
In the sandbox there are graphics settings for the PS3, 360, and medium/high/more high for the PC. ...Someone was trying to get screens but someone's copy kept crashing.
 
What EA/ Crytek sould do is this:

Release the game right now on Digital Download. Steam / XBL and PSN. Everyone want's tp play it now.
 
Thunderbear said:
That sucks.... This is worse than the Half Life 2 situation because the game is so close to release I imagine the came is pretty playable?
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Well, IIRC the half life 2 leaked included the source code to the game and the source code to the multiplayer, so I think it was worst than this.

This is a bad thing but not a huge thing. dx9, old build, missing assets. Gamers will buy it. Pirates will pirate it now and then after it releases, it's not like they are gonna buy it or something. And casual pirates will wait for the 360 version to be out.
 
shagg_187 said:
It'll be declared Gold in a few weeks time, If I'm correct.
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Until then Crytek are going to be working overtime trying to get every version to be as good as possible. Expecting Crytek to release the game now is madness.
 
sinnergy said:
How can a game that is released in 1 month, is not gold?.. most games are... they need to be pressed etc..

game is done.
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Someone has to get the PS3 version to compile so they can ship it.
 
element said:
and that almost caused a two year delay on the game...
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Actually, as I mentioned, it released about a year and a half after the code was stolen. So roughly a year later than expected.

But it's Valve. Would they have been on time anyways?
 
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