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[Dreamwriter]

Man exclusive VR-headset games are a pain to see - why is it a thing?!?

ps3ud0 8)

As for why exclusives are a thing, they use quite different SDKs and have different control schemes - the Rift SDK for example includes features such as different layers you can set to render at different resolutions and settings (so, render your HUD at a higher resolution, the Rift downconverts it but the text is much more readable that way, while the rest of the game renders at normal resolution so you don't lose performance).

 

[SomTervo]

My exact reaction. So exact it's scary haha.

I assume the name is homage to Swiss Family Robinson?

I thought Robinson Crusoe.

Like the original "guy stranded on a strange island" but sci-fi instead of colonial.

 

[Kandinsky]

Probably wrong thread to ask this, but am I right in thinking these VR game will take a big hit on game's performance?, like for example on morpheus the games wont/cant look as good as The Order, because it has to render the scene twice, is that correct?.

 

[KingSnake]

Seriously. I think publishers are getting a little ahead of themself. They should be happy when all VR plattforms combined make up a market big enough to make a profit.
That some are already announcing VR-plattform exclusive titles is beyond ridiculous to me, and I think it could hurt VR as a whole.

Exactly, seems like a very bad foundation for this market.

 

[Oneself]

If it's a non violent adventure, I'm in. I hope games like Journey had enough of an impact on gaming so we see more adventure experiences like it.

 

[cleveridea]

Nice - but the problem I have is its gonna take forever to know which VR is the one to buy.

Maybe cardboard in the meantime...

 

[texhnolyze]

Damn, I thought VR is still far away from us.
I'm not buying that $1000 system for VR games. I don't even play first person games.

 

[Business]

I can understand if it's PC only, but please don't lock it to either Oculus or Vive.

 

[Xater]

Seriously. I think publishers are getting a little ahead of themself. They should be happy when all VR plattforms combined make up a market big enough to make a profit.
That some are already announcing VR-plattform exclusive titles is beyond ridiculous to me, and I think it could hurt VR as a whole.

It most definitely will hurt VR. They have fragmentation from platform support AND exclusive games. Who wants to jump into that with the prices they are asking for these things? I can't see it taking off in a major way right now.

 

[a secret-boss]

don't worry non VR guys there's more Remaster for you guys

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

morpheus hopefully. and oculus ect of course. hopefully not one of these VR headset exclusives :/

they're not even out and i feel like they're fucking up any chance of this kicking off in a big way. and by "they" i mean the guys making games exclusively for specific headsets.

The Insomniac game is exclusive to oculus, so it's already pointless asking for no exclusives.

Maybe we can say "hopefully all the exclusives are only for a limited period of time", but it's impossible that only oculus will have exclusives while the others none.
Nobody would buy them, they have to be competitive.

 

[Durante]

As for why exclusives are a thing, they use quite different SDKs and have different control schemes - the Rift SDK for example includes features such as different layers you can set to render at different resolutions and settings (so, render your HUD at a higher resolution, the Rift downconverts it but the text is much more readable that way).

That's not the reason exclusives are a thing. Abstracting those API-level differences is trivial. There could be valid reasons for exclusives to certain types of input, but not HMDs.

Moneyhats are the reason exclusives are a thing.

 

[tuxfool]

"Platform" as in singular? Don't do that shit :/

Alas, it has been known to be an Oculus exclusive...

(and not the headset+controllers more suited for first person exploration )

 

[cirrhosis]

This is the kind of Crytek project I like. Beautiful Foliage Simulator 2016/2017.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Yeah the name sucks

 

[gofreak]

One of the other staffer's tweets mentions 'VR technologies', plural.

 

[Leafhopper]

I hope Crytek makes this game look good like they always do.

Is it the cool thing to act like VR is bad now?

Absolutely baffles me.

"No, I don't want the amazing immersion!"

Yes it's totally that and not the fact that there is the prospect this could be exclusive to one particular VR headset. Or the fact woke up to the price of these headsets.

And I like how you make it as though a VR headset will guarantee immersion for everyone when it clearly won't be for everyone. There will be people that don't like wearing it for example.

EDIT: Apparently it's always been an exclusive but, yeah.

Hopefully the game is good though.

 

[Fury451]

I thought Robinson Crusoe.

Like the original "guy stranded on a strange island" but sci-fi instead of colonial.

That's the one I meant lol.

 

[jmga]

I probably won't be Oculus exclusive as they didn't show it on their show, so:

- Morpheus exclusive.
- PC exclusive supporting OpenVR.

 

[KingSnake]

don't worry non VR guys there's more Remaster for you guys

A VR remaster could be finally a remaster that makes sense.

 

[mcz117chief]

Is it the cool thing to act like VR is bad now?

Absolutely baffles me.

"No, I don't want the amazing immersion!"

My personal problem is that it ruins eye sight and having a big thingy on your head.

 

[Vuze]

Probably wrong thread to ask this, but am I right in thinking these VR game will take a big hit on game's performance?, like for example on morpheus the games wont/cant look as good as The Order, because it has to render the scene twice, is that correct?.

Yeah, you are totally correct. Stereo rendering + the absolute requirement to push out a steady 60/90/120 fps depending on the headset and technology.

 

[The_Lump]

From the Artwork hat sounds right up my street. Excited.

 

[Turkoop]

pls no exclusivity

 

[Xater]

Probably wrong thread to ask this, but am I right in thinking these VR game will take a big hit on game's performance?, like for example on morpheus the games wont/cant look as good as The Order, because it has to render the scene twice, is that correct?.

On consoles that is definitely an issue. You have to render more so something has to take a hit and it will most likely be the fidelity, because a shit frame rate will make you sick.

 

[artsi]

Amazon deal related?

 

[tioslash]

What kind of name is that? lol

Also, VR only :/

 

[DJIzana]

See... for me, if I want VR I wouldn't want spend HUGE amounts of money on a beefy PC and THEN even more just for Oculus and THEN for the game as well. That's a hell of an investment. Especially if it's only good for certain types of games.

While some people hate the idea of third person games in VR, it wouldn't bother me. I'd LOVE a MMO or JRPG (.Hack anyone?) with VR. If PS4 makes it look gorgeous with Morpheus, affordable and offers that though... I might jump in.

This Crytek game though... this is probably the 2nd VR game I'd be interested in and this is only based on concept art. The other game was this Cyberpunk one.

 

[Caipirinha]

No Morpheus no sale.

What kind of name is that? lol

Also, VR only :/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe

 

[cleveridea]

Are there more arts at the site? I only see the main page one and no image/gallery buttons etc

 

[Calmine]

Crytek? Surprised it ain't called: Robynson. Still looks interesting.

 

[Mononoke]

You guys are scaring me with this exclusive talk. This looks amazing and I want it. Not going to buy 3 headsets to play it.

 

[Seanspeed]

See... for me, if I want VR I wouldn't want spend HUGE amounts of money on a beefy PC and THEN even more just for Oculus and THEN for the game as well. That's a hell of an investment. Especially if it's only good for certain types of games.

That PC can do more than just play VR games, thankfully.

 

[Ultranist]

Awesome!
We need more high budget PC exclusives

 

[The_Lump]

On consoles that is definitely an issue. You have to render more so something has to take a hit and it will most likely be the fidelity, because a shit frame rate will make you sick.

The issue he/she is talking about is not exclusive to consoles. It will take a 'performance hit' running the game in VR on PC, too. Of course, with a suitable budget it can be remedied on PC and not so on console.

 

[Denton]

VR killer app, buying day one alongside Rift/Vive, not sure which yet.

 

[Durante]

Probably wrong thread to ask this, but am I right in thinking these VR game will take a big hit on game's performance?, like for example on morpheus the games wont/cant look as good as The Order, because it has to render the scene twice, is that correct?.

On a PS4 a VR game won't look like The Order: it will need to render (i) more pixels per frame, (ii) at the very least at twice the framerate (and then you are on timewarp which isn't quite the same as real high refresh rate), (iii) with a larger FoV, and (iv) at low latency, so without employing parallelization/animation/whatever strategies which induce latency.

 

[KORNdoggy]

The Insomniac game is exclusive to oculus, so it's already pointless asking for no exclusives.

Maybe we can say "hopefully all the exclusives are only for a limited period of time", but it's impossible that only oculus will have exclusives while the others none.
Nobody would buy them, they have to be competitive.

it's a very dumb way to go about it. this is a new tech and for it to succeed it needs to be adopted by many. by all means have competition within the VR space. but don't do it with experiences. it isnt a platform, it's essentially a TV. TV's dont have exclusive movies you can only watch on specific brands. why are VR sets different?

obviously the likes of morpheus might be forced to have exclusive titles due to being teathered mainly to a home console. but hopefully sony is smart and the morpheus experiences they offer are elso released on PC for oculus and any other headset to use.

for PC at least you should have a ton of content and the use gets to chose which VR headset best suits their needs based on price and quality. that's it. otherwise to play everything you'll be buying 5 VR headsets that do largely the exact same thing. as if that's ever going to kick off in a big way.

 

[ArjanN]

I assume the name is homage to Swiss Family Robinson?

Boourns.

Swiss Family Robinson was based on the original classic book Robinson Crusoe.

 

[Xater]

The issue he/she is talking about is not exclusive to consoles. It will take a 'performance hit' running the game in VR on PC, too. Of course, with a suitable budget it can be remedied on PC and not so on console.

That's what I mean. On PC you can compensate by building a beefier machine. Not on consoles though.

 

[Kinthalis]

See... for me, if I want VR I wouldn't want spend HUGE amounts of money on a beefy PC and THEN even more just for Oculus and THEN for the game as well. That's a hell of an investment. Especially if it's only good for certain types of games.

While some people hate the idea of third person games in VR, it wouldn't bother me. I'd LOVE a MMO or JRPG (.Hack anyone?) with VR. If PS4 makes it look gorgeous with Morpheus, affordable and offers that though... I might jump in.

This Crytek game though... this is probably the 2nd VR game I'd be interested in and this is only based on concept art. The other game was this Cyberpunk one.

You're assuming morpheus VR will be comparable to PC VR on a decent gaming PC.

They won't be.

Also PC can do more than just play VR games.

EDIT: Beaten

 

[SinSilla]

Woohoo!

(wanted to say something naughty but i'm too shy for that).

Looking promising! Curious how the studio manage to get whatever this will become running at 90fps while still looking badass.

 

[tuxfool]

I probably won't be Oculus exclusive as they didn't show it on their show, so:

- Morpheus exclusive.
- PC exclusive supporting OpenVR.

Nope. Their demo at GDC all but telegraphed that it is for Oculus.

 

[Afrikan]

As much as I want this to be for Morpheus, I don't see that happening unless Sony is publishing it themselves...or atleast helping out.

Since there is finally an E3 presentation for PC Gaming this year, that is where I think this will get announced. PC Platform Exclusive.

 

[Messofanego]

Robinson Crusoe as a kid, nice. Hope it has a pulpy sci fi (Jules Verne, HG Wells) vibe going by that artwork.

Is Jaden Smith involved?

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Sounds interesting. Too little to go on to get hyped though.

 

[sirap]

Fuuuuuuu

I'm working on the same thing, although mine is purely a dinosaur park. Looking forward to all the VR news!

 

[dragonbane]

An Exclusive would suck, but at least there is no way Crytek can mess this game up. Beautiful graphics in VR is all they need to do to succeed. If it turns out to be a PC exclusive I guess it will have the best graphics until PS6 or something.

 

[Kinthalis]

On a PS4 a VR game won't look like The Order: it will need to render (i) more pixels per frame, (ii) at the very least at twice the framerate (and then you are on timewarp which isn't quite the same as real high refresh rate), (iii) with a larger FoV, and (iv) at low latency, so without employing parallelization/animation/whatever strategies which induce latency.

Ouch, I didn't hear about this. This is a huge deal for consoles who kind of NEED this, and also not great news for PC either.

 

[SomTervo]

I agree with people saying publishers are jumping the gun on VR content. At least wait and see what the marketplace is like.

That's the one I meant lol.

Unsure if you meant Swiss Family or "Robinson Crusoe"...

Robinson Crusoe is what the Swiss Family Robinson is based on. Robinson Crusoe came out 100 years before it in 1719. Both have the same sort of 'stranger in a strange land' thing