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IMO, this game has somewhat restrained visual fidelity - for Crytek's standards anyway. I think they want to make sure you don't need dual titans or whatever to make it playable
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Sure. It still won't run on a toaster though
Wiktor
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You take that back! Robinson's Requiem was awesome
I mean, those screens look like they're pretty clean IQ-wise, so I don't know if that's intentional to minimize the aliasing in VR or if they're kinda just bullshots or whatnot.
I'd hope that my GTX970 could do those visuals more or less. I'd be super happy with that. They're not exactly Ryse-level Crytek graphics, but for what VR demands, it's pretty damn spectacular and I cant even imagine how awesome it'd feel to see those visuals within VR, as if you're there in that world.
SinSilla
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I think those are heavily supersampled shots, but Valve recommends at least 4xMSAA for VR. In my experience with DK1 and DK2, IQ is incredibly important given the relatively low resolution (and this will still be true on the final devices).
justgames7604
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I guess I will be trying vr then.
Dictator93
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I seriously hope that their VR game allows MSAA (Cryeingine is one of the last engines to actually have good MSAA coverage).
Those screen s look supersampled though.
Those screen s look supersampled though.
SinSilla
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Yet another Video, this time from AMD with more insight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlzb9KEbDY
That brachiosaurus looks like my 2 yo daughter made it from clay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlzb9KEbDY
That brachiosaurus looks like my 2 yo daughter made it from clay.
In my tests with VR in UE4, I felt that temporal AA (and i'd qualify UE4's as high quality) works well for combating aliasing, but it also significantly affects the sharpness of detail, especially at a distance. Since we don't have much resolution in the first place, I used UE4's built-in downsampling instead for my VR demo and only a small number of temporal samples (obviously this has a huge performance impact compared to just temporal AA).
It's probably possible to tweak the temporal AA to be more suitable to VR to some extent, but you'll always lose some definition.
Anos Voldigoad
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I'm only interested in
Morpheus
Fried Food
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More VR designed games the better. Want.
How far a distance are we talking about, and what headset? DK2s already do such awful things to the image, you don't get much definition to begin with.Durante said:
But agreed, of course there's always a tradeoff, and we can't avoid at least some supersampling to begin with due to limitations of linear-projections either. I think distant stuff could also eventually be cost-effective to at least 2xsupersample because you can technically get away with rendering anything past-some-distance trehshold with stereo-reprojection(or even just plain one eye) with little noticeable difference. But I've yet to do any real testing of how that's perceived by actual human-subjects
DK2, and really, it was significant even at short distances for small detail (e.g. text). And while better HW will be better obviously, the fact that I saw a marked improvement in clarity with fewer temporal samples and more downsampling shows that it's not just the display.
Sounds reasonable, but how would you implement that effectively in practice?But agreed, of course there's always a tradeoff, and we can't avoid at least some supersampling to begin with due to limitations of linear-projections either. I think distant stuff could also eventually be cost-effective to at least 2xsupersample because you can technically get away with rendering anything past-some-distance trehshold with stereo-reprojection(or even just plain one eye) with little noticeable difference. But I've yet to do any real testing of how that's perceived by actual human-subjects
Actually, it shouldn't be too difficult. Modify the projection in a shader starting from some distance and then do a depth-dependent composite of each eye view into the other at the end?
Messofanego
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Ok, i take geometry comment back. That draw distance.
Close detail isnt utterly amazing, but i think they went with the scale on this one.
AWESOME!
nelsonroyale
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Cool idea.
justgames7604
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Well Im gonna upgrade for stuff like this
this
this
Dictator93
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I get the feeling that the rig they demod this on was using 2 x Fury X cards given that VR interview with AMD.
Yeah, kinda way too detailed. I don't see PS4 rendering it unless it's a full on-rails experience like it seems to be.
Highly doubtful that any of that is realtime or in-game graphics on PS4.
The Janitor
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HellBlazer
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Yeah, I'm not sure what the point of that trailer was. Just rendering those graphics on the PS4 would be very impressive, but rendering the scene twice (for each eye) at 60 fps? No way...
Doubt it, that's like at least a generation away considering it's VR.
CyberPunked
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I think that's rendered CryEngines cinematic tools, Similar to the Ryse trailers.
Is there confirmation that this is PSVR exclusive? Very disappointing, and such a waste of potential if it is.
HellBlazer
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Huh, odd. The PGW stream said "PlayStation 4 first", not exclusive... You'd think Sony would get their exclusives straight.
Unless PSVR will support PC! 
I highly doubt if it's true PSVR exclusive. Time-exclusive I can see but not full exclusive since Crytek wants to show off them tech muscles in VR...which requires quite a bit of horsepower no?
But at the same time, if this experience is fully on-rails like I suspect, does it require even close to the same horsepower as a fully interactive VR experience?
But at the same time, if this experience is fully on-rails like I suspect, does it require even close to the same horsepower as a fully interactive VR experience?
They said 'exclusive' on stage. They carefully said 'console exclusive' with some other titles.Huh, odd. The PGW stream said "PlayStation 4 first", not exclusive... You'd think Sony would get their exclusives straight.
Unless PSVR will support PC!
HellBlazer
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Corpsepyre
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Trailer was definitely CGI. Don't see how that was rendered on a PS4.
It wasnt CGI, it shared a lot of assets with previous showcases of this game.
Not just that but the game also has to run in 60fps at the least (I think for Rift and Vive the minimum framerate is even 90fps but don't quote me on that). That in and of itself would already mean a hit to the visual fidelity compared to 30fps games but then, like you said, the game also needs to render two images. I'm not sure how much the two-image thing affects performance, though. I would assume that that probably depends on whether the two images combined are higher in resolution than, say 1920x1080 (and I'm not familiar enough with the specs to say whether they are or aren't - though I'm pretty sure they are for the PC headsets). This is just me making assumptions, though. I don't actually know a whole lot about this sort of stuff so I may well be wrong.
Lostconfused
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Lots of hands in the trailer, can't see that working too well without actual motion controllers.
roninwarrior92
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somewhere CAPCOM in the 90's is saying "WE CALLED THIS CYCLE"
mckmas8808
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How do you know this?
Watch previous videos.
Vulcano's assistant
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Crazy plant interactions (they may be animation though), best I've ever seen.
The game is exclusive to PSVR though, while previous footage was just them showing what the game could look like when dev's utilize their engine.