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Cute McDonalds employee isn't too bright...
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amdman said:
1) She acted like a shellshocked high school girl who didn't know what the fuck was going on.
2) Do you even know what rape is? It doesn't have to be actual physical force to be considered rape, guy. All you need is the threat of physical force, or the threat of bad things happening (like the cops coming to take your ass away?) and sexual activities happening under duress for it to be considered rape. So just quit playing armchair psychology, homey. Unless, of course, you're expecting us to accept the fact that you're testifying here to the psychological preconditions found in a 17 year old girl based off of a couple news articles and an edited video shown by ABC. And I find it hilarious that you're sitting here telling us that we "can't even THINK to imagine what was going on in her head" while you sit and tell us that you can. Seriously, who the fuck are you?
Maybe you have a point. If the girls you know would flip out and not be scared in this kind of situation, clearly the one in the video wanted to be raped. LOL AMIRITE?!1
...fucking retard. Yeah, way to make a name for people from kentucky.
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radioheadrule83
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Snakes on a plane / in a mcdonalds FTW
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I really do find this story confusing.
Why did the girl comply?
Why did the people involved co-operate with the guy on the phone? Were they in on it?
What does the guy on the phone get out of it... is he watching?
I'm sure there really is a whole lotta stupid involved somewhere, but if anyone could shine a little light on those concerns o' mine, that'd be sweet.
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I really do find this story confusing.
Why did the girl comply?
Why did the people involved co-operate with the guy on the phone? Were they in on it?
What does the guy on the phone get out of it... is he watching?
I'm sure there really is a whole lotta stupid involved somewhere, but if anyone could shine a little light on those concerns o' mine, that'd be sweet.
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TomStrong said:
You're trying to say I can't suck dick now? Maybe not hetero-dick, but I could suck dick if I wanted to.
whytemyke said:
Yea my bad dumbass lets get into a virtual pissing contest. When I was 17-18 I was a fucking tard too, if anyone would have threatened me in the way of losing my job I would have sucked a dick too. MY bad dude, I forgot how stupid I was at 17 or 18. I mean shit I would have done that stuff in a heartbeat. Yea stupid ass I was saying what MY opinion was. Likewise you are stating that YOUR opinion is, that there were no psychological preconditions. I am saying there MIGHT have been. We don't know as you so nicely quoted in my line WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK WENT THROUGH her mind. She could have been thinking $$$$ for all we know.
OK stupid ass having REPRESSED feelings and RAPE are two totally seperate senarios. Wanting to be raped isn't that an oxymoron? If you "WANT" to be raped then isn't it NOT RAPE? Did you actually go to school? Maybe you should reread my posts because obviously you didn't comprehend what the hell I said the first time.
But yes I totally agree with you when I was 17-18 I was stupid enough to suck someones dick because someone else told me I COULD lose my job. I hope every teenager isn't as stupid as you or this world 10 years from now is going to be very FUCKED UP.
radioheadrule83
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This is turning into something quite shocking...
can't we all just get along?
can't we all just get along?
boredJonathan
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radioheadrule83 said:This is turning into something quite shocking...
can't we all just get along?
Oh we were warned that the flood gates were opening. I just always forget how bad it can get before the cleansing.
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siege said:
except that this guys has done it to over 70 other places within .. i think 10 years or so.. is that what they said?
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quadriplegicjon said:
I really didn't think that it was the case here, but just asking people to imagine a hypothetical scenario where it was, and how diabolical of a plan it would be.
radioheadrule83 said:
Girl think's this is the police, and she has to do exactly as they say. She gets shellshocked frightened and simply does whatever she's told. She has no will of her own meanwhile, just wanting to get out of the situation. Eventually she's reduced to tears and never happens to come across a point of saying "Wait.. what the fuck is this bullshit??".
Either that, or the other situation some might not be comfortable discussing, she was in on it. She comes out of this and gets a massive settlement, and there's her incentive. All you need is an incentive to be in on a crime.
Here some could decide they don't want any part of a police investigation, and simply relay the message. It comes to a point though where the requests get ridiculous. At this point it's an older perverted man on the phone. He realizes he's getting to see a naked chick, spank her ass, and get head. Now, he has a fiancee but he can hide it behind "just following orders" his sex-crazed brain thinks. The chick meanwhile becomes frightened by this older man with seemingly an even lesser backbone. Now she has a physical fear. He hadn't forced her but seems quite fucked up. Her only thought going through her head is "I could run" but she didn't want the embarassment and what if this is true? And she couldn't just start putting her clothes on, in fear warranted or not, of the fiancee.
Also, he could be in on it some argue. Sex is also an incentive. Meanwhile, they brought in another man later on, after the first guy, the fiancee. He got on the phone and was asked to tell the girl to drop the apron. Someone with a brain seemingly, he says "DO WHAT?!". Shakes his head, and leaves the room apparently(article doesn't say). The only right reaction though.
The assistant manager meanwhile.. from her perspective, she simply knew there were demands and embarassment with getting naked. And she knew she had her fiancee in there doing the interrogation. She was kind of in the dark though, as to why she didn't figure it out earlier. Everytime she checked the room, the fiancee threw the girl the apron and said "cover up! pleeeease". She did, maybe out of fear, stupidity, sympathy, confusion.. I don't know. Some real odd decisions made here. Throw the apron down and the fiancee will be pulled out of there. But what they did stayed hidden from the assistant manager. The caller meanwhile said he'd already talked to the main manager, and had her on the other line. The assistant manager assumed this was right, but bullshit was called upon her trying to reach her manager. When she did, the manager had been sleeping and had no clue as to anything about an interrogation. That's where the events ended apparently, and the real police came. I wonder what the last pieces of the convo with the caller were though.
From the article - "Clinical psychologist Jeff Gardere says the caller's actions were likely a way to feed a God-like complex by manipulating his victims emotionally, physically and sexually. He calls it 'virtual voyeurism.'"
EDIT: Also something weird..
"When Louise Ogborn volunteered to work late at McDonald's, she had no idea that the shift would turn into three hours of emotional, physical and sexual abuse. (ABC News)"
JoshuaJSlone
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I think finding the other similar incidents seems a pretty big deal.Master_Shake_05 said:
iced lightning
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hahaha this is so retarded
andthebeatgoeson
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Meier said:
Pfft. Yeah it sad but there was just too many illogical judgements. Not a cynical person in the building. You can't even give the janitor credit. Of course he refused but when you have a naked 17 yo girl in the managers office, why did nobody else call 911? Like, 4 people saw her covered in only a apron and nobody did anything? And she complied with all this? I hope somethings I don't have to explain to my kids. Someone calls on the phone and tells you to do something? Make them come do it.
Sadness for her? Not so much. Sadness for a loss of critical evaluation? Well, they do work for McDonalds.
First off, before you call people stupid let's make sure that our spelling is correct. It's 'scenarios', not 'senarios'. Furthermore, you're the one that proposed the idea that instead of being raped she somehow welcomed the attack to her, so don't be preaching to be about oxymorons.amdman said:
If you paid any attention to the story, she wasn't afraid of losing her job, you fucking nimrod. She was afraid of going to PRISON, which would then not only cost her the job she was using to support her sick mom, but also cost her the ability to take care of her family. The fact of the matter is that she obviously was raped by the one guy who used threat and his fiance's position of authority as a means to coerce the girl into performing unwanted sexual acts. So before you get along trying to criticize me, saying I'm uneducated and whatnot, let's remember a few things--
1) You're the one from Kentucky. Yes, that does make you stupid. It's probably in the water or in the lack of branches in the family tree. I'm afraid that while I'm an educated man, I cannot testify to the side effects of breeding irregularitiies in the state of Kentucky.
2) You're the one that said she wasn't raped because the video clip didn't show either the manager putting a hand on her or the husband putting a hand on her, insinuating that you needed a gun to rape somebody. Your post, not mine.
3) You're the one that first started calling people stupid for disagreeing with your opinion on whether or not she was raped, so your gross reactions to me are really rather baseless.
See? Your own words, plus you said right there that she had a hand in all of this. That's fine, and as you said, it's your opinion, but my opinion is that you have just as many facts as anyone else does and despite what everyone else seems to say, somehow you're the only person in this thread who thinks she welcomed this. In doing so, you welcome my opinion, which says that you're a model citizen for the state of Kentucky and all the idiots who reside therein.amdman said:
...maybe you should reread your own posts because you clearly have no idea what it is exactly that you said.
skinnyrattler said:
So true...
1.) Stripping, nobody in their right mind would strip at a mcdonalds "cause an officer over the phone told them to" :lol . Maybe if this was some gullible 5yr old with a priest... but this is ridiculous behavior for someone who'se basically an adult, guess I'll've to make sure I keep a CLOSER eye on the REAL police officers from now on(they can ask any hot chick to stript or for a BJ, as part of an investigation and get it too :lol ).
2.) It's ridiculous they didn't hang up when he began asking for the stripping, it's just pure insanity, along with the reactions of the other individuals.
Though I could see her going along after the shock of getting stripped in a mcdonalds. The shock and novelty of the experience could probably make anyone lose their composure, and act irrationally.
whytemyke said:
Ahahahahhahahahah hahahhaahhahaha first thing you have to do is know who the hell you are talking to. First of all dumbass I wasn't born in kentucky lol in the water? hahahah good one.. you're cool! Oh my you got my TYPO and missed a letter good one genius you want a nobel prize? And by the way dumbass I did say you were uneducated because you have to comment on someone elses opinion in a negative way instead of just saying I don't feel that way like an "educated man" as you say you are. Which YOU are obviously not.
Wow considering you don't read very much there are many other people in this post that also add that her actions could have contributed to it and that she may have "welcomed" it. Did you miss the person on the first page that said she NEEDED it??? Go back to first grade where they teach you to read and COMPREHEND.
whytemyke said:
hahaha calling everyone stupid? I called YOU stupid theres a difference. That was a response to your above ^ post. hahaha YOU were the first one who couldn't deal with my opinion.
hahahha this is my last response to your stupid comments as you don't read ANYONES posts on here as many say she "may have had a hand in it" Read the thread before commenting on my post dumbass. Again I say shes 17-18 shes not innocent in this. No matter how STUPID you think 17-18yr olds are they aren't THAT stupid. Weird how I remember when I was like 3 and 4 my parents told me if anyone ever wants to mess with you and touch you you don't let them no matter what, no matter if they threaten you with god or anything. A gun is different, but there was no gun and no forced rape here.... (what do you know I am agreeing with myself) No matter how little you are you are taught not to let anyone do anything to you...
hahahahahaha Anyway have fun chewing on this and posting your 8 million responses about how I am stupid because im not taking more time out of my life to get on here and respond to an idiot in a virtual pissing contest. Enjoy and eat it up. You can post on here when some McD supervisor forces you to eat dick and you had nothing you can do.
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I keep refreshing just to see amdman's tag change...
No need to get hostile, man. I'm just stating that science has proven that people who reside in Kentucky for more than like 2 months lose IQ points by the week.amdman said:
Second off, don't pretend that they taught you to read and comprehend in the first grade. Government census data shows that the average grade for reading in Kentucky public schools is the 4th grade, not the first. Maybe if you grew up in the state you are defending you could speak to general education standards like 'back in the first grade'.
And I'm also assuming (I know, I know, when you assume you make an 'ass of u and me') that you're just joking about the whole "whytemyke being the first to call people stupid" thing. I even posted in your opening remarks where you called people stupid. I wonder if IQ had a direct correlation to memory.
I'm glad your parents taught you not to let people mess with you. I also wonder if they taught you not to respond to police telling you what to do? Probably, because, afterall, your thorough breeding and education from your mom/aunt has clearly enabled you fit to judge the psychosocial conditions of any 18 year old you read a newsreport about.
Anyways, I'm glad that you conceded the argument to me. You can fancy it up all you want but at the end of the day, you're not posting your stupid opinions anymore and I am.
By the way, maybe I've been too hard on Kentucky. Living there has allowed you to ignore every single point I made (including the main one about you saying she's not innocent and the others about you calling anyone who disagrees with you someone who has '1/4 of a BRAIN'). Maybe I should rethink Kentucky. But then again, you DID end an argument by saying
So regardless of how I felt that you may have had a point, the fact that you summarized your entire argument with an almost 'wish for rape' for me, completely cemented the sophomoric mindset with which I discuss Kentuckial affairs. Good conclusion. Really. People from kentucky are smart! Especially when they can look at a video snippet that lasts maybe a minute, surrounded by speech to make up for the other 3+ hours, of a girl clearly in discomfort while being coerced into sexual activities and say that she probably wanted it to happen.amdman said:
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whytemyke said:
hahahahhahah hahahah im sorry I must have missed the part in this post (my first post BTW):
amdman said:
Where did I call anyone STUPID?.... I must be missing something in my original post... Maybe if you grab words from different sentences you might make up the word stupid in there. Yes you are correct you Michigan people are so much better than Kentucky people. I am glad that you took the time to find statistics to point out how bad people from Kentucky are.
YES ALL KENTUCKY PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS <---- there I just wanted to get that out in the open so everyone knows Kentucky people are morons and if you just ask "whytemyke" he will give you statistics that he has found researching to have something to rebut my posts with. I am sorry "ole great one" I apologize I do not live in Michigan now, I am sorry I was ever born or moved to Kentucky...
It was so stupid of me to move to Kentucky as statistics show I didn't learn to read until I was in the 4th grade. I actually didn't learn to drive until I was about 25 or 26 either. Hell I probably won't get a real job until I'm damn near 40. I am just shit out of luck. Maybe I should just move back up north and give up on my life...
bigfurb said:Then I weep for humanity (or at least what passes for it in Kentucky)
Yes lets let one persons opinion from a state condemn the whole state because you don't agree.
Great intelligence at work.. Good one. You should be a Medical Doctor you are SMART! You don't happen to be in Michigan do you?boredJonathan
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Cyan said:I stand corrected. One third of all Kentuckians are stupid, one third get all the womenz, and one third of them I don't remember anything about.
GASP!
Now we know why Cubsfan gets all the womenz! Look at what he is working with as the base intelligence.
WrathOfOtaibah
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rs7k said:
Individual states are races now?
Anyway, I was bored at work and there were two girls as my co-workers. My hypothesis at first was that a life of being pampered makes you naive. Then whytemyke called me out on it. I thought I was right but I think he was right in hindsight. My test was to test the three girl's naivete.
Girl #1 looked at her schedule for next week (which starts on Monday, just the way the place I work is). She clearly knew she wasn't working Thanksgiving. I look at it and stare it. I went up to her and said "Hey Jenny, I see you're working three shifts Thanksgiving week." She replied, "OMG" and ran over to the schedule where she spent no less than two minutes staring and comparing. She walked back and told me that she didn't have any shifts. I said, "Oh, I must have looked at the wrong employee's schedule." She checked three different times. I told her at the third time I was just giving her a hard time and that I knew she didn't have any Thanksgiving shifts. She looked stunned and confused. Definitely would have done the same thing Ogborn did.
I did this to Girl #2 who also had her Thanksgiving week off. She hates the first girl and therefore has no contact with her so she had no idea. She looked at it, laughed, called me an asshole, and ended it playful punch on my arm.
Both are college students who did fairly well.
So chalk it up to a lack of common sense.
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BobbyRobby said:
well yeah. im sure shit like that happens all the time.
Why do you guys even talk to amdman? He said he was done posting and then he posted another one. I don't even have to look at what he wrote to know that I'm not gonna acknowledge the words of some dirt dumb poor ass inbred Kentucky down-home retard flip-flopper who thinks that he can say one thing and then back out on it. If he had any self respect he'd just admit that his gene pool and geographic location prohibit him from understanding any true insight about the lack of knowledge of people from Kentucky. QUIT IGNORING SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!
amdman-- you're on notice.
amdman-- you're on notice.
whytemyke said:
HAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHA ahhahahahahah hahhahahha Asshole, I probably make more in a day then you make in a week. Unless you know someones situation STFU. I usually don't like to talk down to people about where I am in my life, but to you? STFU.
Oh I am on notice? Well how about you notice me calling you a fucking idiot. Kiss my ass bastard.
you're a flip-flopping traitor. you probably make your bags of gold by selling innocent children to tom brady. you can't be trusted, you're arrogant, you're uninformed and worst of all you're ignorant. I'm going to pray for you, because I am a GOD WARRIORRRR, but don't kid yourself. God doesn't care about you and he doesn't care about kentucky... if he did it wouldn't be the cesspool that it is, teeming with inbred retards sucking the week-old fat off the greaser at the local KFC. you make me sick.amdman said:
:lolwhytemyke said:
Guys I wanted to post a thread for all of you that have had to put up with this guy.... I wanted to show my appreciation for the rest of GAF who are not like this guy. About halfway down the page you will see what I am talking about. Enjoy.
http://s14.invisionfree.com/IDEAGASMS/index.php?showtopic=494
LOL OMG! ur so gay, seriously. Fap material to make gaf forget that you're a flip flopping coward with no convictions?amdman said:
lol i mean anyone who's not a retard could clearly tell that it's not 'half way down' the page more like 3/5ths down the page. LOLOL omg ur stupid. way to represent kentucky, mr. fraction man.
anyone getting bored of me fucking with him just lemme know and i'll stop. I lost interest in this thread long ago aside from this clown. this shit shoulda been locked and killed 12 hours ago
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Yeah you must have watched a different video and read a different article. Because in the video and article I read, the man SPANKED THE GIRL'S ASS WHEN SHE DIDN'T LISTEN. SHE HAD WELTS ON HER ASS FROM BEING SPANKED BY THE FIANCE. Whenever she would not comply, she was taken over the fiance's knee and SPANKED. They SHOW THIS in the video. She also begged for the people walking in and out of the room to help her. They say this in the article you "read" and they show it in the video you "watched."amdman said:
And before you even TRY to say otherwise:
Ten full minutes is a fucking LONG, LONG time to be spanked for.ABC News said:
Oh, and YOU LOSE.
In other, less stupid idiot news, has anyone tracked down the non-blurred tapes?
WordAssassin said:In other, less stupid idiot news, has anyone tracked down the non-blurred tapes?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Commenting about ME being wrong about the hitting which fine omg I forgot about that part in my reponses to whytemyke.. funny how it took hours to bring that up.....I was wrong she was SPANKED when she didn't listen, exactly that reason is why you are so sure she didn't have repressed feelings... :lol
omg...
and YOU want see the uncensored video of your so called "poor" girl? Yea that shows you have real concern.... pervert. GAF has some stupid motherfuckers on here...
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