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[SquiddyCracker]

An excellent recent example of this:

Fancy trailer combat
Standard MMO combat

MMOs are particularly awful when it comes to this.

I get why it is done, that it's often there to set the story or hype up the game, that CGI isn't meant to represent what you actually get in the game - but when these trailers often consist of nothing but combat that is not even remotely close to the combat in the game all I think of is "when are we getting combat this cool?".

These trailers and whatnot wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that they often cost millions of dollars, money that I personally think would be better spent on further developing the game - maybe even be used towards an engine that can handle more dynamic combat?

Or just extra content.

Anyone else share this opinion?

 

[alr1ght]

Every one? That's why they do it in cutscenes or QTEs.

 

[Yoshichan]

Cringe-worthy CGI.

 

[Pudge]

I get annoyed by this slightly, especially when they're attempting to advertise the game to people who wouldn't like playing it if they knew what it actually was.

Also, random thought, but there was that one TF2 video where a Spy threw a sapper at a Sentry. You can't do that in the game. That blows.

 

[Lime]

Since you included trailers in your OP

 

[eXistor]

Every one? That's why they do it in cutscenes or QTEs.

Pretty much. You see the main character do all kinds of circus acts in cutscenes and when the player gets control back, he just walks around corridors and presses buttons.

 

[abrack08]

Almost any CGI scene where a character dies. Usually it's like one shot kill, even though when you were playing as/with that character, they could withstand a lot more.

Like when (Borderlands 2 spoilers, first thing that came to mind)

Spoiler

Roland is shot and killed by Handsome Jack.

Also... pretty much most games cutscenes. In MGS, Snake/Raiden can do amazing stuff (especially in TTS) but then when you control them, it's pretty much shoot or choke people. I'd love to be able to dismantle somebody's gun like Naked Snake does to Ocelot.

Since you included trailers in your OP

Great example too, wouldn't have thought of that. I was so excited when I saw that. I still enjoy Madden but it definitely never lived up to that video.

 

[CorvoSol]

Everything about that scene in Final Fantasy XIII where Lightning uses the gravity bomb. YOU NEVER GET TO DO THAT IN GAME.

 

[LiK]

MGS Twin Snakes - can't make Snake actually do flips and shit lol

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Oh, god yes MGS series does this all the time.

 

[RooMHM]

Cutscenes cannot be representative of gameplay, they never are.

 

[Pociask]

It could be said that when you get Blur to make an amazing CGI like that for your game, as the reveal trailer, and then your game is just standard MMO combat, you're actually hurting your game, because you're setting impossibly high expectations.

 

[GWX]

In Uncharted 3, you fight some enemies, equipped with RPGs, making use of some pillars for cover. After you kill them, a cutscene immediately shows a rocket destroying one of the pillars in one hit. Me and my friends laughed quite a bit!

 

[JWong]

Planetside 2's trailer by Blur is indicative of the gameplay.

The gameplay definitely does not have the rambo action of the main character in the trailer, but the trailer shows off the massive battles, showing off all the vehicles types, drop pods, etc.

A trailer can be total bs, but something like Planetside 2 or League of Legends opening cinematic can really show off gameplay features within the CG trailer.

 

[T.M. MacReady]

Dead Island trailer

 

[DidntKnowJack]

This does happen, but more often than not, the cut scenes look worse than the games running in real time. They're either too compressed, stutter like crazy, or both.

edit: Not really what you meant, though huh? I was thinking about them not being graphically representative rather than conceptually.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Planetside 2's trailer by Blur is indicative of the gameplay.

The gameplay definitely does not have the rambo action of the main character in the trailer, but the trailer shows off the massive battles, showing off all the vehicles types, drop pods, etc.

A trailer can be total bs, but something like Planetside 2 or League of Legends opening cinematic can really show off gameplay features within the CG trailer.

I agree with you on Planetside 2, where you can pretty much do everything shown in the trailer (aside from the ridiculous plane-climbing combat ) so it's not necessarily always deceptive.

It could be said that when you get Blur to make an amazing CGI like that for your game, as the reveal trailer, and then your game is just standard MMO combat, you're actually hurting your game, because you're setting impossibly high expectations.

Definitely!

 

[Ghazi]

In light of recent events, Aliens: Colonial Marines demo video

 

[AndyD]

All Blizzard games? I mean I love the CGI intros but they are a far cry from the gameplay.

 

[EMT0]

I'd be more curious to hear of a trailer that DOESN'T advertise what you can't do/won't see in a game.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

In light of recent events, Aliens: Colonial Marines demo video

Came here to post this.

 

[_Ph03n1x_]

Dead Island trailer

best example of what op is talking about

 

[papercamm]

That Old Republic trailer that tricked me into getting the game when it came out.

 

[anotherVegan]

Metal Gear Solid is a big offender. Here's just one example.

MGS: Twin Snakes - Cyborg Ninja

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Everything about that scene in Final Fantasy XIII where Lightning uses the gravity bomb. YOU NEVER GET TO DO THAT IN GAME.

because Sazh fucks it up within the first few minutes of the game. Blame him.

 

[Pikawil]

Stealth Cutscene (old) Dante thread?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

I'd be more curious to hear of a trailer that DOESN'T advertise what you can't do/won't see in a game.

Same here.
I would actually applaud a developer/publisher who pushed for the trailer to either consist of in-game footage, or showed nothing that couldn't be done in-game.

 

[XenoRaven]

MGS Twin Snakes - can't make Snake actually do flips and shit lol

Aww man you took mine.

There's one cutscene where Liquid shoots a missile at Snake from the Hind and Snake jumps off of the missile and fires a Stinger back at Liquid. Then you get to the gameplay and Snake can't jump. He also can't move while aiming the Stinger Launcher.

...

 

[SquiddyCracker]

EVE: Online is a good example of a game with trailers that are more or less indicative of actual gameplay (both in terms of how it plays, and how it looks - as it even use in-game assets in many of the trailers I believe).

Example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms95NKFnhCU

 

[Jinko]

FFXIV online original CGI opening. mwah ha ha

 

[Weltall Zero]

MMOs are particularly awful when it comes to this.

Yet another common MMO sin that Guild Wars 2 does NOT partake in, by virtue of having no CGI trailers at all. Everything you see in a trailer, you can find or do in the game as well.

 

[gutter_trash]

Oh, god yes MGS series does this all the time.

so true, regular gameplay is absoultely nothing like Cutscene action sequences

 

[Busta SMurk]

EVE Online.

/thread

Space Excel never looked so cool.

 

[Meccanical]

Pretty sure this is every cutscene in every game ever.

Shout out to DMC3 for doing something cool in a cutscene that I in fact could do in gameplay.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Yet another common MMO sin that Guild Wars 2 does NOT partake in, by virtue of having no CGI trailers at all. Everything you see in a trailer, you can find or do in the game as well.

Kudos to them, I had never seen that trailer before.
Wish more developers would do this,.

 

[cacildo]

MMO! Some time since i heard about those!

 

[Cow Mengde]

Final Fantasy 7.

 

[Tawpgun]

Halo's cutscenes, especially the CGI SpOps.

For some reason, characters in cutscenes are all firing sniper rounds out of their assault rifles while in game you're stuck with a nerf gun.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

EVE Online.

/thread

Space Excel never looked so cool.

To be fair, the actual combat looks more or less like what you see in the trailers - if you zoom in a bit

 

[iirate]

I know that Blur did a trailer for them and all, but weren't the Arkham City trailers mostly gameplay? I mean, the whole game(and its predecessor) sort of subvert this concept. The game is a Batman simulator, and you feel like a badass during gameplay, and cutscenes are mostly used when characters are just talking. The cutscenes that DON'T follow this template(especially the courthouse scene in AC) are typically pretty terrible, actually.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Pretty sure this is every cutscene in every game ever.

Shout out to DMC3 for doing something cool in a cutscene that I in fact could do in gameplay.

Enemy surfing?

 

[Meccanical]

Enemy surfing?

Yes indeed.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Yes indeed.

Only asked because I felt the exact same thing: "Oh, what do you know, you CAN do this in-game". DMC3 is just that good.

I know that Blur did a trailer for them and all, but weren't the Arkham City trailers mostly gameplay? I mean, the whole game(and its predecessor) sort of subvert this concept. The game is a Batman simulator, and you feel like a badass during gameplay, and cutscenes are mostly used when characters are just talking. The cutscenes that DON'T follow this template(especially the courthouse scene in AC) are typically pretty terrible, actually.

To be frank, the game looks so amazing in motion, I can't think of a lot of ways they could top it.

Also, your avatar is Samus while performing the recharge trick in Super Metroid. Do I get a price for recognizing it?

 

[Chuck Norris]

Metal Gear Solid is a big offender. Here's just one example.

MGS: Twin Snakes - Cyborg Ninja

Twin Snakes is a big offender, all the other MGS games follow the ingame move set perfectly. MGS3 cutscenes for example focus around CQC fights, which you can use in game

 

[zruben]

MGS Twin Snakes - can't make Snake actually do flips and shit lol

hahaha, came to post this.

 

[Gbraga]

Stealth Cutscene (old) Dante thread?

What? But most of the things he does are based on actual gameplay mechanics.

DMC's gameplay fights are actually a lot more impressive than the cutscenes if you're good enough.

 

[iirate]

Also, your avatar is Samus while performing the recharge trick in Super Metroid. Do I get a price for recognizing it?

Do people not recognize that when they see my avatar? I always thought it was a pretty iconic picture from one of the greatest games of its era. Not trying to be rude or anything, but I wasn't really trying to be cryptic or obscure with my av.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Thanks to QTEs, you can "do" cinematic moments too.
See: the ending of Halo 4.

Certainly not the sole pusher of such gameplay "innovations", but one I care about.

 

[Vazra]

Dead Island is the first thing that comes to mind.

 

[Dahbomb]

Onimusha 3 CG intro.

Can't even jump in the game but the intro has the main character flipping and jumping on demon caravans like an agile ninja.