Cyberpunk 2077 HypeTrain |OT| Just breathe

What platform are you going to play on?

  • PC

    Votes: 155 57.6%
  • PS4 Amateur

    Votes: 23 8.6%
  • PS4 Pro

    Votes: 46 17.1%
  • XBox 1

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Xbox 1 X

    Votes: 38 14.1%
  • Waiting for the next gen

    Votes: 36 13.4%

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Ivory Blood

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I think it's something with the video itself, on PC it will look crispy clean.

The details are insane, but the quality is shit, even in the supposed 4k on youtube.

 
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That "4K" footage is just upscaled 1080p. Add in temporal anti-aliasing and it's going to look blurry as shit. TAA only really starts to look acceptable when you combine it with supersampling IMO. Even that aside I'm not impressed however.
 
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Just look at that SSR in the puddles fizzle into existence.
Oh but maybe...just maybe...it is using DXR, check out that shimmering noise in the specular reflection on the tarmac. That looks a lot like the end result of a temporal denoiser.
If it is using DXR it'd explain why it's only running at 1080p. It wouldn't explain why the game is pretty underwhelming visually resolution aside however.
 
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If PC had the same quality of graphics as Witcher 3 on Switch and i'll still buy it. but of course it won't be that bad :)

i'll be playing it on PC so i know that i'll be getting the full experience. ps4/xb1 versions won't look or run as good of course. PC is the only way this game should be played:

60fps minimum. 1080/1440/2160p resolution, Raytracing.
 
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If its not blurry consoles will be fine too. Game is not about graphic, but its about clear sharp picture so we want that at least. I maybe will play it on pc too but not on monster pc just on some gtx 1060
 

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That was quite the chopped up slice of vertical gameplay. Pretty fucked up after a year of incessant hype and endless marketing dribble.

The things I'm most worried about from this game are not addressed or shown at all. The open world, the freedom of traversal and approaches to accomplishing mission objectives.

I think people need to stop calling this an immersive sim. It's obvious the missions and story are scripted to hell and back with predefined junctures allowing you to choose-your-own-adventure, if you will, seemingly through dialogue choices. Hacking, stealth, or guns blazing options to get to that junction point does not make a game immersive sim, at least not in my opinion.

I was hoping the pc graphics would improve from last year to match the initial trailer but looks like for some reason they are parring back some visuals which is strange.

Gunplay on the other hand looked fine to me. i thought it looked pretty decent last year too. A little more punch to the audio and more kickback on the rifles should fix most peoples problems..
So gtav X Detroit Become Human?
 

Ivory Blood

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I think this video could perhaps be of use to CDPR staff.

That's really impressive, I can almost feel the guns. Gotta say though, the revolver shooting and reload animation in the Cyberpunk footage looked close to this, it's the other guns that looked like shit.
 
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But It's not? In the interviews after the trailer they said you can mix and match abilites however you want, the fabled "fluid class system".
they only showed 2 classes though netrunner and solo, im ok with it netrunner and tech are kinda close. i would have liked a rockerboy class where you use speech to solve problems.
 
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they only showed 2 classes though netrunner and solo, im ok with it netrunner and tech are kinda close. i would have liked a rockerboy class where you use speech to solve problems.
Just because they only showed 2 classes does not necessarily mean there are only two classes.
 
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But the problem with this video is exactly that. I don't know what they've shown. All classes? Selected classes? Maybe they were more concerned with fancy editing than with showing actual game....
Oh I agree, it was awful. Awful ADHD editing. It was hard to watch...and, as I wanted to see more actual gameplay before deciding whether or not to preorder, I'm really no more the wiser as to whether or not I'm interested.
 

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Just because they only showed 2 classes does not necessarily mean there are only two classes.
There are no classes at all. They have the same approach as Deus Ex. There's a skill tree with 2 possible extremes - pure stealth, hacking or brute strenght. Evereything else is some mix inbetween.
 
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they only showed 2 classes though netrunner and solo, im ok with it netrunner and tech are kinda close. i would have liked a rockerboy class where you use speech to solve problems.
Mile Toast mentions in the Q/A afterwords the Techie is something you could be. He even goes on to explain what it is. They may not have those mechanics presentable yet. This demo was just to show two examples of how you can approach situations, that's all.
 
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Ivory Blood

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This will either be the best or the worst thing. I remember them laughing about interactive sex scenes in first person last year. Times change, I suppose.

 
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i dont mind FPP and kinda like it. at first i hated it but i realized TPP combat is dogshit.

This will either be the best or the worst thing. I remember them laughing about interactive sex scenes in first person last year. Times change, I suppose.

so the scene where V wakes up wearing panties and tshirt and gets up eats breakfast has been removed =(
 
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So...given that the game is entirely in first person...what exactly was the point in wasting time and resources tacking on character customization?
 

Ivory Blood

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So...given that the game is entirely in first person...what exactly was the point in wasting time and resources tacking on character customization?
I feel like a LOT has changed since last year. They had some pretty high profile people leave. Maybe they turned the ship around at the last moment with regards to story and gameplay. I bet we'll se a lot of the things people want - like new appartments and customisation in future patches and the inevitable Enhanced Edition.
 
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So...given that the game is entirely in first person...what exactly was the point in wasting time and resources tacking on character customization?
Sure you can see your character in its full glory. It'll go like this:

- Press Start button
- Go to Inventory screen
- Stare at your character model on the left, while equippable items are on the right
- Use Left Analog Stick and face buttons to change gear
- Use Right Analog Stick to rotate character visual 180 degrees
- After you have stared at your character, go back to menu screen and choose Resume Game
 
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Are those not valid reasons? You still will see your V from head to toe. 🤷‍♂️
Where? In the menu? On a bike? (in third person only I might add) You're sure as shit not going to see your V in cutscenes, they said as much in their reply. Customization seems like a complete waste of development time if you ask me; unless I can actually see my character, either in cutscenes or as I walk through the world, I don't give a rats dick how they look.
 

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Where? In the menu? On a bike? (in third person only I might add) You're sure as shit not going to see your V in cutscenes, they said as much in their reply. Customization seems like a complete waste of development time if you ask me; unless I can actually see my character, either in cutscenes or as I walk through the world, I don't give a rats dick how they look.
I get you, but personally I enjoy character creators, and we will still see our V. So it's not a big deal for me I suppose.
 

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The OP says you can beat the game without one kill. That's cool. It will last for about 2 seconds after I see the first enemy and then the opportunity is lost. That's still cool though. Kudos to anyone that an get through the game without killing the most annoying and most aggravating enemy in the game. I wonder if there will be gibbage or not. Or will the ragdolls stay whole?

...and if ragdolls don't fade away, can I pick them off and have it swan dive off of it onto the ground as a top tier prank?

Edit: God I don't give a fuck about politically biased articles that bitch and moan about this game or people that hear about one minor thing in the game they don't like, it's an auto no buy. Fuck those picky, shit stirring assholes, and fuck those hyper sensitive cry for no legitimate reason assholes. Grow up.

I want this game now.

 
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I watched the new edited 15 min video in 1440p on my 1440p monitor and all I could think about was how much the graphics looked off.. Very soft and blurry. And my god did Johnny Silverhand's face look awful in some of those shots.. Such a bad representation of Keanu's face.. Is this truly an Alpha prior to getting Keanu on board? Am I missing something here? I was not impressed!
 

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So no more 3 person view in cutscenes as devs said they just changed it to fpp all time. So you never will see yourself from side
 

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How many of you have written to CDPR and asked them to reconsider the recent changes?

Am I being silly in thinking that its a good way to go about these things? Feel free to vent on forums and stuff but also let the devs know directly. I'm sure they appreciate direct and well thought out feedback instead of "pre-order cancelled".

Or are we past this now haha.
 
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How many of you have written to CDPR and asked them to reconsider the recent changes?

Am I being silly in thinking that its a good way to go about these things? Feel free to vent on forums and stuff but also let the devs know directly. I'm sure they appreciate direct and well thought out feedback instead of "pre-order cancelled".

Or are we past this now haha.
Sadly I'm about 99.9% sure those emails go into the aether and are never actually read by anybody. Think about it...think about just how many emails they must get on those public addresses. There's no way they can read all that. It's a dumping ground...a containment address to stop their business emails getting flooded. It's an unfortunate fact of life that the only way to make your message heard is to threaten their bottom line. Not that I think that anyone is actually cancelling over this, just that people like me, who were already on the fence, have been further swayed towards not preordering based upon several factors over the last few days. People who already preordered are likely sticking to their guns, for better or for worse.
 

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Even if pre order is cancelled, it's not like the game can't be bought later.
I wanna see the reviews first.
 
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Even if pre order is cancelled, it's not like the game can't be bought later.
I wanna see the reviews first.
It's a SP focused game. MP hasn't even been confirmed at launch.

So gamers lose nothing waiting for it to be 50% off. I think digital copies of Witcher 3 were already being dumped for $29.99 a year after.
 
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It's a SP focused game. MP hasn't even been confirmed at launch.

So gamers lose nothing waiting for it to be 50% off. I think digital copies of Witcher 3 were already being dumped for $29.99 a year after.
Yeah, hopefully they’ll have it fixed up when PS5 rolls around and I’ll just grab it then.
 

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List of features removed since E3 2018:

1. Childhood Heros
2. Multiple Apartments
3. TPP in cutscenes
4. Genders
5. Different body types
 

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devs if listening too much what people saying and all complains could easily fall to a trap and make worse result in the end. For me they can change what they want to , but they dont need to tell us that everyday , like ohh we changed this , ohh we remove this ... just finish game, some devs dont listen online BS at all and just make game . because those who talk who complain is still very small number compare to all who still likes it . i know i will still.
 

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A lot of their problems started with Keanu Reeves, they made him the main character(dont confuse with protagonist) of the game and then a lot of story elements were overhauled or removed. We also had a lot of departures this time last year i assume it was protest resignations most notable was Kyle Rowland. CDPR could really learn a thing of two from Rockstar and keep their mouths shut instead of promising and showing off a bunch of stuff and then removing them a year later, its amateur hour over at CDPR. E3 2018 demo was perfect, its shame what they have turned this into now.
 

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this is killing my hype a bit. i think i've went from buying the £250 collector's edition to buying it on Steam with that £50 voucher i've had sitting there for a while now.

that said it's gonna take a huge fuck up on their part for me to hold off or not buy it at all.

i know i'm probably being way too optimistic but i hope this backlash makes them reconsider. i would happily wait until April 2021 if it meant they could take the time to do things right!

also who knows what state the game could end up once expansions and the inevitable "enhanced edition" come out. witcher 3 was great at launch but the expansions + patches made it even better. maybe once it launches they will work on improvements. again i know i'm being optimistic.

pls CDPR just sort this shit out.

remember that moment in 2018 when they said its game engine
well they weren't lying. it is running in the game engine.

game engine doesn't mean gameplay.
 
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This game is made for a 6+ year old hardware, what kind of graphics do you expect?

And no it wont look significantly better on the next gen consoles all of a sudden.