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[dojokun]

Shame they have no self control or personal responsibility.

Just try bike ommuting yourself before judging.

 

[Zoe]

New suburb developments are now starting to be developed with only cars in mind. Hate every suburb I see with pointlessly windy roads and zero sidewalks. Mail carriers must hate those neighborhoods.

Those kinds of neighborhoods typically have a central mailbox location.

 

[zoku88]

Those kinds of neighborhoods typically have a central mailbox location.

That's not really true. I come from such an area. And it's not really a new thing. Designing unwalkable areas has been going on for a while. Actually, there's just been a recent swing to design more sustainable communities (which usually includes being walkable).

It's for sure common in maryland and feels this way in CA, too. Actually, I've been to a lot of unwalkable suburbs, but I don't think I've seen one that had a central mailbox location. That doesn't seem common. Feels like you could only do that for several hundred people.

Edit : I should note that I don't mean the whole suburb is like this, just the outskirts. Anyway, why would that affect the mail person? Don't they just stay in their automobile and just stop at every box and don't get out? Isn't that why the drive on the right side of the mobile instead of the left?

 

[Htown]

I love how the general response in this thread from non bikers is to ignore anyone who doesn't fit their preconceived notions of bikers and only focus on those who are jerks.

I apologize for painting you with the same brush as some of the others, but so many people posted in here with variations on "yeah well cyclist persecution we need more paths!!"

I hate that someone got killed from a collision with a cyclist! Terrible.
That being said, FAR MORE cyclists get killed every year from collisions with cars. The problem is that most US cities were not designed with foot or cycle traffic in mind. As a result, even with the addition of bike lanes, biking is very dangerous and leads to a lot of deaths. It's a tough situation for sure.
In before self-entitled car drivers who act persecuted and have some vendetta against people on 2 wheels instead of 4.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. The fine is ridiculous for what is basically manslaughter, but proper cycle paths should be created. All we get are shoe-horned paths that are impractical and look ridiculous.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images...57340431171/Gateshead-Silly-Cycle-Pat-008.jpg

My brother is an avid cyclist, and even here in Ottawa, he's pretty much putting his life on the line when he goes out for two hours just to relax. Cars don't pay attention to turning signs nor do they ever give cyclists a second thought.

And the city still doesn't feel a need to create bike paths, or a commuter train to take more cars and dangers off the road. Numbskulls.

Well yeah. I think the strange fallacy is that everyone agrees that bike lanes would make things safer, but in the end the majority of drivers would rather shave 5 minutes off their commute than see other people get to work safely. They know things would be safer with more bike lanes, they just don't care.

I can see where the cyclist is coming from, I have had too many friends and family members struck by vehicles because people don't pay attention.
Even with cycling lanes, people constantly are on their phones or distracted by something else and swerve into the bike lanes.
I don't understand how you could hit a person biking though...

More bike paths need to be created. Ottawa is getting pretty decent. We have quite a few dedicated paths (especially along the river), and I've noticed they've started putting dedicated bicycle paths downtown.

Judging from the responses in this thread it's no wonder I feel like people are out to kill me when I'm riding my bike. MotoGaf: "Get off my roads! Self entitled bicyclist think you own everything!". Walkgaf: "Get off my sidewalk and bikepath! Self entitled bicyclist think you own everything!". Guess I'll stop shouting "Passing on left" as it only alerts you to grab your gun.

This is why cities and other communities need to put money into developing bike lanes, and no those shitty three foot wide lanes next to roads that people park their cars on and last for all 500 feet.

HOW ABOUT JUST DON'T RIDE YOUR BIKE LIKE A CRAZY PERSON?

 

[zoku88]

I apologize for painting you with the same brush as some of the others, but so many people posted in here with variations on "yeah well cyclist persecution we need more paths!!"



HOW ABOUT JUST DON'T RIDE YOUR BIKE LIKE A CRAZY PERSON?

I don't think all of those posts were sympathizing the person in the OP, though. I mean, since it's clear-cut that the person that killed the pedestrian is wrong, there's nothing else to really talk about, thus, why the discussion shifted to safety discussions surrounding bikes. (actually, I would only count the 23rd post as even somewhat sympathizing with the killer cyclist.)

I mean, cyclists who follow all of the rules are still in danger from jerky motorists.

 

[X26]

Cyclists>Motorists

Cycling is a steady form of exercise and non polluting form of transport. Roads should be redeveloped in favour of the cyclist in city's. Alot of the shit behaviour from cyclists is due to be treated like shit by motorists.

what a brilliant idea, who cares that it would effectively cripple the area's economy

 

[entremet]

what a brilliant idea, who cares that it would effectively cripple the area's economy

Adding bike lanes would cripple a city's economy?

 

[Zoe]

Adding bike lanes would cripple a city's economy?

Adding bike lanes is not the same as "favoring cyclists."

 

[littleworm]

I apologize for painting you with the same brush as some of the others, but so many people posted in here with variations on "yeah well cyclist persecution we need more paths!!"










HOW ABOUT JUST DON'T RIDE YOUR BIKE LIKE A CRAZY PERSON?

Hey, I follow the rules, and I have still been hit by two cars, both of which broke the rules, so don't say I bike like a crazy person. So suddenly everyone who makes a suggestion, you know one that will actually fix the problem are all suddenly crazy cyclists.

 

[artist]

Cyclists should be banned.

 

[zoku88]

what a brilliant idea, who cares that it would effectively cripple the area's economy

what does "redeveloping roads in favor to cyclists" even entail? If you can't answer that, how can you conclude it effects?

 

[Plasmid]

 

[Freshmaker]

Just try bike ommuting yourself before judging.

If it obliges me to ram pedestrians on sidewalks at 40mph because the lack of planning for bikes makes you instantly insane, I'd rather not try to understand.

 

[Tapiozona]

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YES. That picture is awesome.