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[la flama blanca]

Because good parenting should not involve the psychological trauma that is public humiliation. Children do not have fully formed brains, and something like this will cause more harm to the child than good. If the father cannot think of more creative disincentives or attitude adjustments than psychological trauma (such as making the daughter give the laptop to charity), he isn't a good parent.

Plus, isn't it clear that his motives are to protect his own ego? Discipline should not be for that purpose.

Are you saying that if he followed every instruction you would potentially provide him to be a better parent, his daughter would turn out to be !00% the type of individual you would want in our society?

 

[cnizzle06]

I can see where his daughter gets the attention whoring trait from.

 

[EatChildren]

Kids are all awful, useless shits and teenagers are at least a hundred fold worse. I sympathise with and pity this man.

 

[The Elite]

He did it as a punishment. I don't see what about it was immature.

1. Should have given it to charity.
2. Posting on Facebook like a vindictive child.

Kid would have been better to put that in her diary than on Facebook. She deserves to be in a world of trouble but this video tells me a lot about her dad too.

 

[Blair]

Maybe donating the laptop would've been a better idea, but I don't see anything wrong with uploading the video to youtube. Yeah it probably embarrassed her, but I think what she posted on facebook was way worse. The dad seemed hurt by it and it wasn't like this was her first time doing something like this.

No doubt she deserved to be harshly punished for that bullshit, but now people from around the world are watching her get shamed. When i was punished as a kid, it was an intimate family/friends matter. I can look back on those things and reflect how it helped me. If i was shamed world wide i wouldn't grow from the experience, i would just be fucking shell shocked. Its not a punishment, its a world wide spectacle, front page of reddit and discussed and dissected by a shit load of forums who don't know these people.


There needs to be a public announcement for parents and children that internet shaming is a fucking awful idea.

 

[empty vessel]

Are you saying that if he followed every instruction you would potentially provide him to be a better parent, his daughter would turn out to be !00% the type of individual you would want in our society?

Nope. I'm saying he isn't a good parent. Or, to be more fair to him, I am saying that in this particular instance, he did not display good parenting skills.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Kids are all awful, useless shits and teenagers are at least a hundred fold worse. I sympathise with and pity this man.

1) username quote

2) I've never understood this attitude.

 

[la flama blanca]

Nope. I'm saying he isn't a good parent. Or, to be more fair to him, I am saying that in this particular instance, he did not display good parenting skills.

There shouldn't be a general measure of someone's parenting skills off of one incident. We are all fucking human. Mistakes are our human nature. It's whether this father can correctly counterbalance this type of behavior with love and attention.

 

[docbon]

public shaming on an viral internet scale is quite possibly the worst idea ever. good choice of round though.



also what the heck is a pussygaf??? some kind of cat???

 

[Cipherr]

Wow this thread is HILARIOUS

It's not as simple as that. I have no problem with taking or even destroying the laptop. My problem with him is that a gun should have no role whatsoever in the punishment of your child.

Looks to me like you just have a problem with guns in general. No offense, but thats a personal problem.

 

[mxgt]

He did it as a punishment. I don't see what about it was immature.

The immature part is publicising it. While hilarious for non parents like me, it's pretty harsh on the kid.

I know she's a brat and all, but no one deserves public humiliation by the hand of their parents. Bring her in line in private is the best thing to do.

 

[Fusebox]

How surprising that the daughter thought it was a good idea to take out her frustration with an attention-seeking online stunt.

Nailed it.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I'll tell you what sweetie. I'm gonna hand you your laptop. You hold it against your chest, very still.

If you're still alive at the end of this, I'll buy you another one.

Fail satirical hyperbole?

 

[empty vessel]

There shouldn't be a general measure of someone's parenting skills off of one incident. We are all fucking human. Mistakes are our human nature. It's whether this father can correctly counterbalance this type of behavior with love and attention.

That's why I qualified my first sentence, expressly, as being more fair to him. I agree that I shouldn't judge the man in his entirety for this one incident. In my opinion, in this instance, it was not the right way to go about solving a problem.

 

[DanteFox]

The immature part is publicising it. While hilarious for non parents like me, it's pretty harsh on the kid.

I know she's a brat and all, but no one deserves public humiliation by the hand of their parents. Bring her in line in private is the best thing to do.

I think she'll be alright.

 

[dragonelite]

In the good old day you had spanking you cried for 20 min go to sleep until parents woke you up and told you why you are wrong.
Now you have parents not spanking but globally humiliate them on the internet.
Non spanking gaf what will have bigger impact on a person psychology months of bullying or getting spanked. And god this is also in middle school a place that can tear a kid psyche up and scare someone for life.

Im glad im got spanked and grew up in a internet free environment.

 

[magicstop]

No doubt she deserved to be harshly punished for that bullshit

None? You're pretty fucking sure that her almost cliched teenage whining on Facebook is deserving of harsh punishment? Because I'm pretty fucking sure it isn't. You have to have a big ol' hard-on for control to think responding to whining with firearms and public humiliation is appropriate.

 

[jchap]

I've found the most effective way of forcing a desired behavior on a child is the threat of humiliation. Kids develop a sense of shame pretty early on so by leveraging peer based embarrassment, you can even accelerate topics like potty training.

 

[outunderthestars]

There shouldn't be a general measure of someone's parenting skills off of one incident. We are all fucking human. Mistakes are our human nature. It's whether this father can correctly counterbalance this type of behavior with love and attention.

Are you just intentionally misquoting him in every reply?

He clearly said in this particular incidence, which you then somehow warp in an overall indictment of the parent...

 

[shadyspace]

I don't have a problem with anything he did except filming it and putting it online. Family business should stay in the family. Not to mention it makes you look pretty weak when you reveal you need the assistance of the entire fucking world to properly punish your child.

 

[Exterminieren]

It's not as simple as that. I have no problem with taking or even destroying the laptop. My problem with him is that a gun should have no role whatsoever in the punishment of your child.

Yeah, when you introduce a handgun to your childraising, somewhere I think a line has been crossed.

That's why I qualified my first sentence, expressly, as being more fair to him. I agree that I shouldn't judge the man in his entirety for this one incident. In my opinion, in this instance, it was not the right way to go about solving a problem.

Basically.

 

[eosos]

Whoa, a teenage girl being melodramatic? Better shoot up her laptop and post it on youtube.

 

[Trey]

Maybe donating the laptop would've been a better idea.

Doesn't get his point across in his preferred way.

Arguing the motive of that is far more effective than arguing his disposal method.

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

I don't get gaf, they don't want to spank their children, but they don't want to emotionally spank them either. I got the best of both worlds, the corner and three red marks on my ass.

As for the video, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's not like he lost his temper and just beat the shit out of the laptop with a bat. Drool coming out of his mouth, foaming with anger. He told her she fucked up, she was disrespectful and he was going to show her how good of a lifestyle she had by taking it away. Maybe posting it on the web was a little harsh, but she posted her rant online too.

Should have just brought her into a room with nothing but a chair and tv. Hit play and left here there.

 

[la flama blanca]

That's why I qualified my first sentence, expressly, as being more fair to him. I agree that I shouldn't judge the man in his entirety for this one incident. In my opinion, in this instance, it was not the right way to go about solving a problem.

I'd view it as maybe ineffective or just something that just amuses me. But I wouldn't go as far to say that he's some child beating redneck who acts immature because he cared enough for her that he did something irrational to try to change her bad behavior.

 

[ultim8p00]

That was a little excessive?

For people who want to cut to the chase: the father pulls out his gun and empties a clip into the girl's laptop.

No it was not. Fuck this softy softy shit with kids these days. They feel like they can say whatever the fuck they want.

 

[la flama blanca]

He clearly said in this particular incidence, which you then somehow warp in an overall indictment of the parent...

No, I agree with him absolutely. I'm just continuing the conversation to be used as a platform against the other individuals that I disagree with.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I got the best of both worlds, the corner and three red marks on my ass.

How would you feel if it were being discussed on forums and had over 8000 comments on youtube, nevermind views?

 

[MilesWebber]

I don't have a problem with anything he did except filming it and putting it online. Family business should stay in the family.

I think he should have every right since she was the one to drag family business to the internet in the first place.

 

[Gaborn]

So he buys the lap top, he upgrades it, he buys software for it, and people are bitching that he destroyed it? Is it wasteful? Sure. It's his property, he's allowed to destroy it if he wants. Would I have sold it? sure. This is a better way to show her that she is a self important brat.

She's 15, and she's had everything handed to her it sounds like. She should get a damn job.

 

[dragonelite]

From what the dad said its not the first time she did this.
First couple of time she got grounded or something and no laptop.

So he buys the lap top, he upgrades it, he buys software for it, and people are bitching that he destroyed it? Is it wasteful? Sure. It's his property, he's allowed to destroy it if he wants. Would I have sold it? sure. This is a better way to show her that she is a self important brat.

She's 15, and she's had everything handed to her it sounds like. She should get a damn job.

Sometimes destroying stuff is a harder message. How stupid it may be but it is probably effective.

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

How would you feel if it were being discussed on forums and had over 8000 comments on youtube, nevermind views?

Nothing really, but that's me not her, so we couldn't really gauge anything by the comparison.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I think he should have every right since she was the one to drag family business to the internet in the first place.

hmm, 300 facebook friends reading bitching from a teenager vs several thousand strangers watching a video. yeah. even stevens. nevermind being the adult.

 

[Wilsongt]

That cowboy gets my Mushroom Stamp of Approval.

If you're implying what I think you are implying, I agree.

 

[Volimar]

So he buys the lap top, he upgrades it, he buys software for it, and people are bitching that he destroyed it? Is it wasteful? Sure. It's his property, he's allowed to destroy it if he wants. Would I have sold it? sure. This is a better way to show her that she is a self important brat.

She's 15, and she's had everything handed to her it sounds like. She should get a damn job.

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[outunderthestars]

No it was not. Fuck this softy softy shit with kids these days. They feel like they can say whatever the fuck they want.

Just putting this out there: What is wrong with a child expressing their frustrations to their friends?

To me as a parent, finding a rant like that would have been a teaching moment, not a public humiliation and use of firearms moment.

 

[mxgt]

I think he should have every right since she was the one to drag family business to the internet in the first place.

She's an immature 15 year old.

He's a grown man. He should know better.

 

[MilesWebber]

hmm, 300 facebook friends reading bitching from a teenager vs several thousand strangers watching a video. yeah. even stevens. nevermind being the adult.

So which is it? Keep family stuff in the family? Or only post it places where less than 500 people will see it?

If you're implying what I think you are implying, I agree.

Oh, I am.

 

[DanteFox]

She's an immature 15 year old.

He's a grown man. He should know better.

Known better than what? Than to let the world know that she's entitled?

 

[Trey]

So he buys the lap top, he upgrades it, he buys software for it, and people are bitching that he destroyed it? Is it wasteful? Sure. It's his property, he's allowed to destroy it if he wants. Would I have sold it? sure. This is a better way to show her that she is a self important brat.

She's 15, and she's had everything handed to her it sounds like. She should get a damn job.

I wouldn't call it wasteful. He used its destruction for his own goals, and I'm sure he feels he got his money worth in his point-making.

Financially careless is a better phrase.

 

[freenudemacusers]

So which is it? Keep family stuff in the family? Or only post it places where less than 500 people will see it?

I'm just going to assume you are playing dumb.

 

[Fusebox]

There are thousands of videos of people destroying things on youtube -- so unless you consider them all rednecks.. yeah.

Lol, how is putting on a cowboy hat, going out into your back paddock and shooting your daughters laptop not quintessential redneck behaviour?

 

[Dead]

The kid has serious entitlement issues, but the behavior from the dad is downright psychotic.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I approve.

I think he misspoke when he said that every parent should be able to put a bullet through their kids ass...I assume he meant any of their electronic devices. I don't have a problem with that if the child is failing to comprehend and understand respect and/or responsibility...though I'd think simply formatting the HDD and giving the laptop away or selling it would be a much better solution. Too many parents I know of fail to enact and establish good discipline (either by being too lenient or too crazy), and it hurts the kid in the long run.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I wouldn't call it wasteful. He used its destruction for his own goals, and I'm sure he feels he got his money worth in his point-making.

Financially careless is a better phrase.

He might even make some cash from the ads! I call it an attention whoring investment

 

[Trey]

Just putting this out there: What is wrong with a child expressing their frustrations to their friends?

I guess if they were legitimate, reasoned frustrations. Even still; family business.

 

[MilesWebber]

I'm just going to assume you are playing dumb.

Or you are.

 

[Bill Murray]

Known better than what? Than to let the world know that she's entitled?

He should have known better than to punish his spoiled, selfish, lazy and disrespectful daughter.

Gaf would have taken her for hot chocolate and had a long talk and then bought her a new laptop on the way home so she could continue to belittle and humiliate them on the interwebs.

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

I approve.

I think he misspoke when he said that every parent should be able to put a bullet through their kids ass...I assume he meant any of their electronic devices.

I thought he said boot.
Like, "I'm going to shove this size 12 so far up your ass every time you move your tongue you're gonna be shining my shoe."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO_OPMqAl64

 

[Gaborn]

I wouldn't call it wasteful. He used its destruction for his own goals, and I'm sure he feels he got his money worth in his point-making.

Financially careless is a better phrase.

Fair enough. Like I said (though I realize I wasn't totally clear) I think it's a GOOD thing he destroyed it because it sends a better message. In my case I would have sold it because I probably don't have nearly as much money as he does, but then I'm not at the point in my life he is.