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[MIMIC]

What would be hilarious is if Daniel Tosh were actually funny.

 

[Agent Cooper]

Already been covered, but for example

1. Shouldn't have been dressed like that.
2. Shouldn't have been alone at night.
3. Shouldn't have been at the club if she didn't want to be felt up.
4. Shouldn't have drank so much.
5. I mean, she's slept with guys in the past, you think she was actually raped or she's just making it up.

Welcome to most college campuses in the West. It's so much of an issue the UK had to do a PSA explaining that when a girl says no and you force yourself on her, get this, it's actually rape even if she's dressed in a short skirt. Weird, huh?

fweokfloaweiflew

I'm getting out of this thread now.

Jesus fucking christ.

 

[Mesoian]

What would be hilarious is if Daniel Tosh were actually funny.

This in spades.

 

[Joe]

I've watched a Zach Galifianakis stand up where he made a similar comment to a woman in the audience... "if you don't shut up I'm going to rape you in the parking lot".

 

[Trigger Warning]

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[Tom_Cody]

This has be all over my tumblr feed recently. The brief comment I want to add is that I think the "rape culture" concept is largely removed from reality. Moreover, rapists rape because they are scum, not because some comedians tell jokes. Rape, like all crime, has more to do with poverty than anything else. And by poverty I mean lack of wealth, education, and stable community.


For what its worth I'm not a fan of Tosh at all but his waverunner joke makes me laugh every single time I hear it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RoLdkgjKhs

 

[Deified Data]

Go to a Tosh set. Get offended by rape joke. What a moron. Who did she think she was going to see? Tosh's sociopathy is part of his persona.

Regardless of how you feel about Tosh, hecklers are scum and the woman deserved what she got.

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

 

[Hex]

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

Hating most things is these days as well as being offended at something so this was a bogo.
I like Tosh.
Come at me.

 

[tapedeck]

Go to a Tosh set. Get offended by rape joke. What a moron. Who did she think she was going to see? Tosh's sociopathy is part of his persona.

Regardless of how you feel about Tosh, hecklers are scum and the woman deserved what she got.

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

Trendy? Alot of people just dont find him funny at all, including me. Get off it.

 

[Deified Data]

Trendy? Alot of people just dont find him funny at all, including me. Get off it.

It's trendy to say you hate Daniel Tosh on GAF. I've no doubt the people saying it mean it. But it's also trendy as hell. You know this to be true.

 

[SUPREME1]

Go to a Tosh set. Get offended by rape joke. What a moron. Who did she think she was going to see? Tosh's sociopathy is part of his persona.

Regardless of how you feel about Tosh, hecklers are scum and the woman deserved what she got.

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

Like someone said early in the thread, I think he's funny... at times even brilliant. But there are those moments when I cringe at what he says.

But yeah, you're right. That's who he is, deal with it or do not pay money to go see him.

 

[tapedeck]

It's trendy to say you hate Daniel Tosh on GAF. I've no doubt the people saying it mean it. But it's also trendy as hell. You know this to be true.

ok

 

[Onemic]

Go to a Tosh set. Get offended by rape joke. What a moron. Who did she think she was going to see? Tosh's sociopathy is part of his persona.

Regardless of how you feel about Tosh, hecklers are scum and the woman deserved what she got.

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

I didn't know genuinely disliking a guy and not finding him funny is trendy. I guess liking him isn't?(considering more people like him than hate him) I guess that means your opinion is of him is more valid than ours, oh welp.

 

[RurouniZel]

It's trendy to say you hate Daniel Tosh on GAF. I've no doubt the people saying it mean it. But it's also trendy as hell. You know this to be true.

I want you to read the two statements you've written here again. Read them side by side as you've written them. Then reconsider what trendy actually means and then read them again.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

What if Porky Pig was raping Elmer Fudd?

 

[Deified Data]

Like someone said early in the thread, I think he's funny... at times even brilliant. But there are those moments when I cringe at what he says.

But yeah, you're right. That's who he is, deal with it or do not pay money to go see him.

The shitty thing is, there are people in the audience who paid specifically so they could hear him make rape jokes in the first place. I think hecklers all too often think they're the voice of the audience and that they're doing everyone a favor, when really they're just ruining everyone's night.

Though I'm sure that same crowd was overjoyed to see her get ripped into afterwards, so there's that.

I didn't know genuinely disliking a guy and not finding him funny is trendy. I guess liking him isn't?(considering more people like him than hate him) I guess that means your opinion is of him is more valid than ours, oh welp.

I haven't shared my opinion of Tosh.

I want you to read the two statements you've written here again. Read them side by side as you've written them. Then reconsider what trendy actually means and then read them again.

There's no shame in admitting that you hold a trendy opinion. I hate Terry Goodkind and don't feel a hint of remorse, despite it being overwhelmingly trendy amongst readers of fantasy lit on GAF.

 

[UFRA]

What would be hilarious is if Daniel Tosh were actually funny.

Breaking news: Some comedians aren't funny to some people.

Comments like that make me laugh. I like Tosh.

 

[Mudkips]

And jesus is Tosh-hate ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

Tons of people "hate" him and insult him at every turn.
Outsiders may not realize it, but most of those people are actually his fans and it's all a big joke.

 

[Doctor West]

It's trendy to say you hate Daniel Tosh on GAF. I've no doubt the people saying it mean it. But it's also trendy as hell. You know this to be true.

So if somebody disagrees with you, it's trendy? LOL, OK. I see this generic statement quite a bit from people trying to defend something/someone that a lot of people don't like. Why can't you just say you like Tosh and leave it at that? You're the one labeling other people because they have a different opinion. It is insecurity on your part?

 

[Vermillion]

Do we know what the jokes were?

Heckler should've kept her mouth shut but comedian should've just told her to fuck off rather than reacting like he did.

Anything can be funny.

If you're going to make a rape joke at least make it funny.

1, 2, done.

 

[Vermillion]

lol. You knew this one coming. Look at the thread title.

Yep Sometimes I feel surprised by the stuff I laugh at. Louis CK brought up raping a dead kid. Offensive as hell but the way he said it and in that context it was hilarious. This was a bad joke tis all.

Louis CK is always amazing, so.

 

[RurouniZel]

There's no shame in admitting that you hold a trendy opinion. I hate Terry Goodkind and don't feel a hint of remorse, despite it being overwhelmingly trendy amongst readers of fantasy lit on GAF.

That's not what I mean. When you say:

But it's also trendy as hell.

You're stating that people dislike him or hate him or whatever because it's the popular, trendy thing to do, not necessarily because they genuinely believed that before encountering said trendy opinion. But immediately before that you said:

I've no doubt the people saying it mean it.

That's contradictory. You first imply that you're sure people actually mean it (i.e. no trend influence) and then follow up with that it's trendy. It may not be the message you meant to convey, but it basically reads "I'm not saying people are swayed by popular opinion, but people are swayed by popular opinion,"

 

[Deified Data]

You're stating that people dislike him or hate him or whatever because it's the popular, trendy thing to do, not necessarily because they genuinely believed that before encountering said trendy opinion.

It's both. It's a genuinely held belief that is also a popular sentiment to share on this forum.

So if somebody disagrees with you, it's trendy? LOL, OK. I see this generic statement quite a bit from people trying to defend something/someone that a lot of people don't like. Why can't you just say you like Tosh and leave it at that? You're the one labeling other people because they have a different opinion. It is insecurity on your part?

I haven't shared my opinion of Tosh.

Don't worry about it - I have a lot of "trendy" opinions, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Just because something's trendy doesn't mean it's wrong. Just means it carries a lot of weight and pressure to adhere to said opinions are greater than their opposing counterparts. Liberal-GAF vs. conservative-GAF is a fine example.

 

[Glorified G]

And jesus is having decent taste in comedy ever so trendy on GAF. I'll have to keep that in mind.

fixed.

 

[blame space]

i follow all the trends

 

[RurouniZel]

It's both. It's a genuinely held belief that is also a popular sentiment to share on this forum.

But if it is a genuinely held belief by the people who post it, what is the purpose of highlighting it's "trendy" nature? To state the obvious?

 

[Vermillion]

i follow all the trends

But that's because you set all the trends.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I like Tosh but I think some topics shouldnt be laughed about.

 

[BigDug13]

I want you to read the two statements you've written here again. Read them side by side as you've written them. Then reconsider what trendy actually means and then read them again.

I think he means it's trendy to outwardly express your hate for the subject of the thread, not specifically just Tosh.

"oh, a thread about Tosh, I'm going to totally pop in with a "witty" quip about how much he sucks and is not funny."

It's really just taking a dump in a thread.

 

[Deified Data]

But if it is a genuinely held belief by the people who post it, what is the purpose of highlighting it's "trendy" nature? To state the obvious?

Yes. The trend is obvious to me, which is why I find it odd that you don't notice it.

fixed.

Louis C.K. is the funniest man alive. Trendy and true.

 

[blame space]

hot trends coming through! - deified data

 

[Mr. Enigma]

George Carlin from one of his HBO specials:

Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it. Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.

Like rape. They'll say, "You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "Fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?"

I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.

See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say. "Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard-on, he got horny, he lost control, he went out of his mind."

A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "She had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt." These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cock teasers. Don't seem fair to me.

Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is. Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion.

And this is where Tosh failed. If he had said, "Wouldn't be funny if this woman got raped by the Stay Puft marshmallow man?" then bingo. But Tosh wasn't sharp enough to exaggerate and got burned.

 

[Derrick01]

Hating most things is these days as well as being offended at something so this was a bogo.
I like Tosh.
Come at me.

I kind of do too, he's ok. His show isn't terrible either but sometimes it veers too far into stoner humor territory which does not resonate with me at all.

 

[fse]

Tosh shouldn't have apologized.

 

[RurouniZel]

I think he means it's trendy to outwardly express your hate for the subject of the thread, not specifically just Tosh.

"oh, a thread about Tosh, I'm going to totally pop in with a "witty" quip about how much he sucks and is not funny."

It's really just taking a dump in a thread.

Hm, that I could see if that were the case.

Yes. The trend is obvious to me, which is why I find it odd that you don't notice it.

Oh I noticed, because it's quite obvious. So obvious that I didn't think it needed mentioning. I guess that's where we differ on this subject.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

George Carlin from one of his HBO specials:



And this is where Tosh failed. If he had said, "Wouldn't be funny if this woman got raped by the Stay Puft marshmallow man?" then bingo. But Tosh wasn't sharp enough to exaggerate and got burned.

It was noted earlier that the club owner said it happened differently.

Masada says Tosh asked the audience, "What you guys want to talk about?" After someone in the front said "rape," a woman in the audience started screaming, "No, rape is painful, don’t talk about it." Then, Masada says, "Daniel came in, and he said, 'Well it sounds like she’s been raped by five guys' — something like that. I really didn’t hear properly."
He continues, "It was a comment — it wasn’t a joke at the expense of this girl."
Masada says that the woman then sat through the rest of Tosh's set — which received a standing ovation — before complaining to the manager about Tosh's joke. The manager apologized, Masada says, and offered her tickets to come back to the Laugh Factory for another performance, which she accepted.
"If you’re offended why would you take a couple tickets to come back to the club again?" he says. "If you were offended, how about the rest of the audience" — 280 people total — "who’s giving a standing ovation?"

Damage control perhaps? But if this is indeed how it happened, then I'd say that changes things.

 

[Deified Data]

Hm, that I could see if that were the case.



Oh I noticed, because it's quite obvious. So obvious that I didn't think it needed mentioning. I guess that's where we differ on this subject.

Yep. Fair enough.

 

[Ultima_5]

I haven't read op yet but wanted to voice my opinion. Tosh is up there with Dane cook and carlos mencia as the worst things to happen to comedy.

 

[Oni Jazar]

And this is where Tosh failed. If he had said, "Wouldn't be funny if this woman got raped by the Stay Puft marshmallow man?" then bingo. But Tosh wasn't sharp enough to exaggerate and got burned.

Let's see your awesome standup.

I haven't read op yet but wanted to voice my opinion. Tosh is up there with Dane cook and carlos mencia as the worst things to happen to comedy.

Your user name should be Ultima_9 for how stupid that comment is.

 

[Trent Strong]

Yes. The trend is obvious to me, which is why I find it odd that you don't notice it.


Louis C.K. is the funniest man alive. Trendy and true.

He makes some interesting observations. But he's actually not funny at all. And his TV show is really boring.

 

[KHarvey16]

George Carlin from one of his HBO specials:



And this is where Tosh failed. If he had said, "Wouldn't be funny if this woman got raped by the Stay Puft marshmallow man?" then bingo. But Tosh wasn't sharp enough to exaggerate and got burned.

5 people raping a woman in the middle of a comedy show is the exaggeration.

 

[Izick]

It was probably funny in person, but not out of context. Go figure. CK does some shit like this; I remember he even made an opening to an episode of Louie about it. It's all about the context.

I don't think Tosh is funny, but I don't think this is wrong.

He makes some interesting observations. But he's actually not funny at all. And his TV show is really boring.

 

[UrbanRats]

He makes some interesting observations. But he's actually not funny at all. And his TV show is really boring.

I've heard them all.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Let's see your awesome standup.

Nice defensive response. You don't have to be a touring comedian to understand what Carlin was saying. He put it out there in layman's terms.

5 people raping a woman in the middle of a comedy show is the exaggeration.

True, but it's not exaggerated enough. 5 men raping a woman is still a realistic scenario.

 

[dream]

Your user name should be Ultima_9 for how stupid that comment is.

I, for one, get and applaud you for this reference, sir.

 

[blame space]

trent strong you're my new board nemesis.

 

[Oppo]

I always thought of Tosh as the Bizarro Chris Hardwick

 

[Vermillion]

He makes some interesting observations. But he's actually not funny at all. And his TV show is really boring.

:|

 

[KHarvey16]

True, but it's not exaggerated enough. 5 men raping a woman is still a realistic scenario.

5 guys raping a woman in an audience at a live comedy show is a realistic scenario?

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

An interesting poll would be to try to correlate how much you like Tosh and/or Louis C.K.

Their styles are pretty damn different.. CK is all about describing situations, fairly in depth stories, and then making a big deal out of these stories and how funny the situation is.

Tosh is more of a joke teller type.

I much prefer Tosh myself..

My first exposure to Louis CK was seeing him Live in Portland.. I barely giggled, and was pretty bored.

Funny, because he was recommended to me by someone whose taste in movies, music, etc. is also opposite of mine.