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Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.

A few things you can try:

Summon another player.
Use Gold Pine Resin.
Use the stairs effectively.

Preferably a combination of the three.
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if people are aware that you can also summon the Soltaire Knight before this fight (and presumably later fights). I remember seeing his summon sign near the entrance, though I think it's easy to miss since it seemed a little off to the side. I only ever see people talking about summoning him before the bell tower fight.
He gets worked by Gaping Dragon really quickly.
 
Boy, the Tomb of the Giants sure does suck. Nothing says 'fun' like pitch black zones with huge enemies jumping at you two at a time, draining your entire stamina bar in one go. Did I mention the platforming elements? In the dark? When you can't see what you're going to be stopping at?
 
the_prime_mover said:
I am having a very hard time with New Londo. I am SL31 and if I have a transient curse active the ghosts aren't a major issue - though they can overwhelm easily enough. However, at 4,000 souls a piece the transient curse is too prohibitive given how easy it is to die, and the fact that I will need a multitude to make it through is discouraging. I find it disheartening that you don't get any souls in that area, or the catacombs as well, it makes all of the time spent getting nowhere seem incredibly pointless. These are the two areas I am trying to focus on now, but I can't really get anywhere in either, and the checkpoints are so far away that death (which is frequent) comes at such a high cost (in time invested).

Is it more reasonable to just go and get cursed then try New Londo at 50% health? Or should I just leave that area until some time later? With everything being so accessible I am really lost as to where I should be focusing my exploration.

Is there anywhere that is good for farming? I haven't really come across anywhere that provides a good amount of souls for a relatively minor time investment.

I took the opportunity when I got cursed to go into new londo and farm for transient curse items. now I have a ton.

the health penalty didn't make that much of a difference, since I was basically hitting them all from long range with bombs and arrows. those ghosts are VERY flammable.
 
Kalnos said:
A few things you can try:

Summon another player.
Use Gold Pine Resin.
Use the stairs effectively.

Preferably a combination of the three.
Yeah. I just can't get to the stairs. That's the only part killing me. I can do ok once the dogs don't block me. Also I tried summoning a couple of players. Same fate :(. Meh. I'm not going to bed till it dies.
 
Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.
I've never solo'd it, so I'm sure that's why, but I beat it 3 times and never had any trouble. In one of the fights, the guy I summoned wasn't really even doing much. I slit that bitch up with my dagger.

His moves are pretty well signaled. Just time out a roll at the right time and he'll never hit you.
 
Question about a weird event regarding Pyromancy, only read if you've beaten Blighttown:

-I rescued Laurentius from Depth and bought some of his pyro spells in Firelink shrine.
-I found Quelana in the Blighttown swamp and bought spells from her too.
-I went back to Firelink shrine afterwards and talked to Laurentius, he said he was going to find Quelana.
-I went back to Blighttown to buy pyro spells from Quelana. I saw Laurentius in the distance and went to him but for some reason he went straight at me and attacked me even though I've never hit him.

Is this normal? Did Laurentius
go hollow? I didn't buy all his pyro spells (I think flash sweat is what I'm missing) and Quelana isn't selling it :\
 
Kalnos said:
A few things you can try:

Summon another player.
Use Gold Pine Resin.
Use the stairs effectively.

Preferably a combination of the three.

Well, I beat him without utilizing the first two, but I did use the stairs. The thing that finally clicked for me was that I ended up not making a mad dash for the stairs the moment I went into the room. Capra will usually bust out one of two attacks right out the gate - an unblockable jump attack and a blockable swing attack. If he goes for the blockable swing, just keep your shield up. It'll get you close enough to the dogs to hopefully take them out super fast. Once they're dead, just spam the stairs, lure him up, then down, then whack away at him.
 
Seraphis Cain said:
Awesome. Thanks so much!

Also, as it turns out, I guess I'm just going to use the bonfire down here anyway. I'm completely out of flasks now, and I don't know if I'd survive the trip back to the Parish bonfire. I mean, I probably would, but I'm not willing to risk 20k souls.


no worries :D just watch out for
slimes on your head :( mash r1 if that happens..
 
15 hours into the game and oh god I love it so much.

It doesn't feel too challenging. Really. When I think of "Challenging", I think of Ninja Gaiden or God Hand, games that really pushed you to your limits of reflex and quick thinking. Dark Souls just asks you to be smart, and calm (although there are times where I think the game screwed me over. THANKS CAMERA.)

But I am a bit sissy. I'll constantly return to my fireplace or any place with a merchant to make sure I'm not risking a huge soul loss. ESPECIALLY in a new area.
 
Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.

Once you clear out the dogs stay just outside of his attack range. When he holds both swords together get far away, when he jumps, roll to the side. Other than that he only seems to have a 2 and 3 slash combo. Just block and hold back, when he finishes you can get a few slashes in. Slow, steady and just out of reach is the best way to play this game.
 
i killed the merchant in dead bog. any reason i shouldn't have? i already bought the repair kit off him.

also i have a ton of humanity. what should i do with it?
 
I just lost 20k souls in the god damn sewers! i am also double-cursed, health bar is tiny lol, i keep dyign from the rats while tryin to escape this hell-hole!!! Stress level are through the roof right now, 2 hours ago i was so relaxed exploring undead burg...Once i'm finally out how do i cure the curse? I feel like i'm losing my mind
 
whalleywhat said:
He gets worked by Gaping Dragon really quickly.

Eh, at least he'd probably be a momentary diversion. :P Plus as noted before you can also summon
Lautrec
if he's around.

Dragons, Drakes, etc are also weak to slashing weapons. People should be sure to check their weapons' attack types, because certain enemies are weak and resistant to certain types.
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if people are aware that you can also summon the Soltaire Knight before this fight (and presumably later fights). I remember seeing his summon sign near the entrance, though I think it's easy to miss since it seemed a little off to the side. I only ever see people talking about summoning him before the bell tower fight.
I'm pretty sure people aren't aware of this because they're not in human form when they decide to take on this boss :lol
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if people are aware that you can also summon the Soltaire Knight before this fight (and presumably later fights). I remember seeing his summon sign near the entrance, though I think it's easy to miss since it seemed a little off to the side. I only ever see people talking about summoning him before the bell tower fight.

I've never seen his sign, so I must be blind. Hah hah hah.


Fix The Scientist said:
I just lost 20k souls in the god damn sewers! i am also double-cursed, health bar is tiny lol, i keep dyign from the rats while tryin to escape this hell-hole!!! Stress level are through the roof right now, 2 hours ago i was so relaxed exploring undead burg...Once i'm finally out how do i cure the curse? I feel like i'm losing my mind

You can use a purging stone bought from the NPC Merchant in the sewer entrance/bridge by the very first area. The second is to have an NPC clear it for you but I don't know where to find one.
 
Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.

It's not a great idea to attempt him until you are confident you can dispatch each dog with a single hit. If you can't do it yet, strengthen your weapon until you can. It makes the fight totally manageable.
 
bone_and_sinew said:
Question about a weird event regarding Pyromancy, only read if you've beaten Blighttown:

-I rescued Laurentius from Depth and bought some of his pyro spells in Firelink shrine.
-I found Quelana in the Blighttown swamp and bought spells from her too.
-I went back to Firelink shrine afterwards and talked to Laurentius, he said he was going to find Quelana.
-I went back to Blighttown to buy pyro spells from Quelana. I saw Laurentius in the distance and went to him but for some reason he went straight at me and attacked me even though I've never hit him.

Is this normal? Did Laurentius
go hollow? I didn't buy all his pyro spells (I think flash sweat is what I'm missing) and Quelana isn't selling it :\

I remember reading that this happens if you buy chaos spells but I cannot personally confirm it
 
I killed the Capra Demon by standing on the stairs and pelting soul arrows at his head while he was stuck on a tree.

Hahahaha this game owns.
 
The Antitype said:
I can see that.

I play Halo pretty well when I'm stoned, everything seems to slow down a bit, and I have more time to line up shots or prioritize targets.

Still, I did just watch my buddy literally spend 20 minutes in a 10-foot room trying to find the door....
Plenty of sober, even anti-medication folks have that problem, too...:lol

Hawkian said:
Same. I know it sounds like something someone would just say but this is spot-on. Except- my reflexes seem enhanced in Vanquish as well.
In my opinion, even the most twitchy actions in games are still governed by situational awareness and planning...a lot of it is almost subconscious-level thinking which can come from years of conditioning playing games. The perception of time to think and the time dilation effect feels increased for me, as well, and it almost always results in being surprised after-the-fact at how fast it happened with time to spare compared to being sober.

Dechaios said:
I find it enjoyable fighting normal monsters while blazed but I imagine repeatedly trying to down a boss wouldn't be too fun...
It's not too fun while sober, as many many can attest to here in this and the other thread (as well as the other DS threads).
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i killed the merchant in dead bog. any reason i shouldn't have? i already bought the repair kit off him.

also i have a ton of humanity. what should i do with it?

I still haven't found another merchant that sells arrows. Doesn't really matter other than that.
 
Papercuts said:
I saw I could make Raw instead, but I thought that was going down a different "path" or something. I gave the blacksmith the 2-3 embers I've found so far.
Raw is good if you are melee only and have low magic stats. Some weapons you can get to Normal+10 and Normal+15, but some go to Raw after +5. I don't go the magic form on any of my weapons because it drops the damage by 50%
 
What level were you all at the sewers? I placed a white soul sign right outside the bonfire and haven't been summoned at all for ages, I think I might be overleveled. I'm level 35.
 
Manmademan said:
I took the opportunity when I got cursed to go into new londo and farm for transient curse items. now I have a ton.

the health penalty didn't make that much of a difference, since I was basically hitting them all from long range with bombs and arrows. those ghosts are VERY flammable.

Hmm, sounds like a good plan. I haven't had a ghost drop a transient curse once and have squandered all the ones I have found thus far. I just need to find the bonfire in that area and then things should be a bit more manageable.

Also - I killed the guy in the bell tower. I didn't really mean to. The first slash was an accident, then he hit me so I killed him. I got his book, but what am I going to miss out on this playthrough?
 
Vect said:
When do we get the
option to teleport back to other bonfires?
End of Anor Londo
 
Okay, I'm done for tonight. All that time in the Depths has me worn out. :lol

One thing though. Please tell me that at SL26, there's somewhere other than Blighttown that I can feasibly do next. I really, really do not want to go back down into the sewers for a long, long time. :lol
 
Fix The Scientist said:
I just lost 20k souls in the god damn sewers! i am also double-cursed, health bar is tiny lol, i keep dyign from the rats while tryin to escape this hell-hole!!! Stress level are through the roof right now, 2 hours ago i was so relaxed exploring undead burg...Once i'm finally out how do i cure the curse? I feel like i'm losing my mind
Wait, double-cursed? Are you playing the game unpatched?
 
Booshka said:
Raw is good if you are melee only and have low magic stats. Some weapons you can get to Normal+10 and Normal+15, but some go to Raw after +5. I don't go the magic form on any of my weapons because it drops the damage by 50%

Yeah, I saw Raw had more damage but went with Normal +6, but then the weapon disappeared from that slot. Or do I need to use the smaller pieces again for 7, 8, 9? I don't think I looked now that I think about it...

Xanathus said:
What level were you all at the sewers? I placed a white soul sign right outside the bonfire and haven't been summoned at all for ages, I think I might be overleveled.

I was level 20.

By "outside the bonfire" do you mean outside the door? Otherwise I doubt a lot of people can get to it.
 
Seraphis Cain said:
Okay, I'm done for tonight. All that time in the Depths has me worn out. :lol

One thing though. Please tell me that at SL26, there's somewhere other than Blighttown that I can feasibly do next. I really, really do not want to go back down into the sewers for a long, long time. :lol

Did you kill the forest boss yet? Before the crest.
 
Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.

As many here have mentioned, Capra isn't that bad once the dogs are gone. Unfortunately, the game puts you right in the room at a tremendous tactical disadvantage. Capra Demon is already on your ass and you essentially have only two directions to roll into. Sometimes he does the move that will fuck your shit up, sometimes the dogs will just block you into corners, etc. Those few starting seconds are quite crucial, as you're not going to have time to heal if you get off to a bad start.

Some people say that going in the little archway to your right would help, but in my experience that only led me to getting blocked in by dogs.
 
jsrv said:
I remember reading that this happens if you buy chaos spells but I cannot personally confirm it
I haven't. I'm still Way of White. I only bought Soul Arrow and Soul Ray from the smith in New Londo, those aren't chaos.
 
Branson said:
How ANY of you got past the Capra is surely a mystery. Quite the beast. Cheap. 2 hit kills. 3 enemies that are quick. Yup. Kill me for real. How my controller is intact I shall never know.

roll, abuse stairs, use your shield, dodge his big attack
 
Night 3. Just beat the Gargoyles
with the help of Solaire
and rang the first bell.

Exhilarating. Don't even know what I want to do next. Maybe sleep.
 
I had the easiest time with the Capra Demon.
Killed him my first try, which is good because I had like three humanity on me. I just ran in toward the staircase. I got stunned, but ran through. Kill both dogs at the top of the stairs then took my time with Capra.

I died at the Gaping Dragon,
and I'm pissed because there's someone shooting Soul Arrows at me while I fight the dragon? WTF is that? I also somehow missed the bonfire, which sucks.
 
I'm level 13 and still can't ring one of the bells (stupid gargoyles).... Should I just farm or do I just suck at this game?
 
duckroll said:
It's not a great idea to attempt him until you are confident you can dispatch each dog with a single hit. If you can't do it yet, strengthen your weapon until you can. It makes the fight totally manageable.
I highly recommend running up the stairs and finishing the dogs off first. As he is walking up the stairs, firebomb the shit out of him. When he reaches the top, drop down and have him follow you. Return up the stairs, and firebomb him again as he follows you up. Rinse Repeat.
 
The framerate in this game is not good, but I don't think it's a big deal at all. This isn't a fast-paced action game, so it's not like you need razor-sharp reactions to deal with enemy patterns. It's annoying when the game turns into a slideshow, like in Blighttown, but even then, the startup animation for practically every enemy attack gives you ample time to prepare for it. It's like Ninja Gaiden for geriatrics.

I'm not trying to be negative toward the game either, I'm not even done with my first playthrough, and I'd already say it's far and away the best RPG I've ever played. I'm just sayin'.
 
Guevara said:
I died at the Gaping Dragon,
and I'm pissed because there's someone shooting Soul Arrows at me while I fight the dragon? WTF is that? I also somehow missed the bonfire, which sucks.
There is? I think you can kill the
soul arrow spammer way before the fight, at least, I remember killing one of those big casters before I arrived at the boss.
 
Yoshichan said:
the valley of defilement and blighttown hate in here is getting ridiculous. They are both my favorite parts of DS and DkS.

Shit framerate, hideous visuals (not in a good way), annoying enemies, status ailments, confusing level design, cramped areas that make the camera spaz out. Blighttown was a mess.

But it's over now! Where should I go?
 
i just remembered something... at e3 you got to play as the Solaire :lol
 
Zeliard said:
Haha wow, it must suck still having that guy around in the boss fight. :P
I honestly thought I was being invaded or something. I totally would have won the fight too. I guess I have to do a better sweep of the Depths. Though I haven't yet met an enemy that uses S.A.
 
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