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David Jaffe's top 10 games 2013

But it wouldn't be the 'cool' or 'hip' thing to vote for TloU. It's just too big and mainstream. You have to be "different" and vote for those smaller lesser known indie titles. It's just the 'it' thing to do now.

Alternatively, he liked Last of Us a lot and would give it a 9/10 but it didn't quite make his top 10... or maybe he didn't really like Last of Us... or maybe he hated it... or maybe he didn't play it. All of which are totally valid and not part of some secret more-independent-than-thou conspiracy to devalue BASED NAUGHTY GOD.
 
Totally inoffensive list really, with the exception of that trashy Tomb Raider game. People should be focusing on that being there instead of TLoU not being there.
 
But it wouldn't be the 'cool' or 'hip' thing to vote for TloU. It's just too big and mainstream. You have to be "different" and vote for those smaller lesser known indie titles. It's just the 'it' thing to do now.

...yes, the lesser known titles like the new Zelda game, the latest Blizzard title and Bioshock Infinite
 
Tomb Raider was fantastic.

I agree. Great characterization of Lara, and the gameplay was a step in the right direction. TLOU just got everything right though. It's also one of Sony's biggest breakout IPs, so it's weird to see one of their prominent developers not mention it in their top 10 list.

Loving all the other games on his list though. Resogun AND Dragon's Crown don't get enough love on these.
 
No TLoU? Good. I'm starting to hate that game specifically because of its annoying fans.

But interesting list. Pretty good variety too. And what is that last game? *Something* Crown?
 
Alternatively, he liked Last of Us a lot and would give it a 9/10 but it didn't quite make his top 10... or maybe he didn't really like Last of Us... or maybe he hated it... or maybe he didn't play it. All of which are totally valid and not part of some secret more-independent-than-thou conspiracy to devalue BASED NAUGHTY GOD.
But 5%
 
TLoU fans have nothing to complain about. The game is getting praised everywhere and, as much as I enjoyed, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the degree it is being held up. I certainly don't want it to be the example followed by the medium, despite its success.

No, the fans that ought to be sore as us Dota 2 and 101 fans, who sit and weep for all those who never experienced nor will ever experience the joys of those games.

Might be a tad much for Dota. That game will laugh at the rest at the medium as it continues to rack up player count regardless of the media's apathy. 101, though.... :(
 
Alternatively, he liked Last of Us a lot and would give it a 9/10 but it didn't quite make his top 10... or maybe he didn't really like Last of Us... or maybe he hated it... or maybe he didn't play it. All of which are totally valid and not part of some secret more-independent-than-thou conspiracy to devalue BASED NAUGHTY GOD.

What are you talking about? It's all a massive conspiracy to devalue Sony and make them go third party by not giving the credit to Naughty Dog!

We're through the looking glass people.

No TLoU? Good. I'm starting to hate that game specifically because of its annoying fans.

But interesting list. Pretty good variety too. And what is that last game? *Something* Crown?

Dragon's Crown.
 
Why is the last of us getting snubbed so much? Got it in my Christmas backlog, super Mario 3d world is keeping me busy, but otherwise am really looking forward to it. Is it just cool to hate on popular games now?
 
Why is the last of us getting snubbed so much? Got it in my Christmas backlog, super Mario 3d world is keeping me busy, but otherwise am really looking forward to it. Is it just cool to hate on popular games now?

The opposite is happening; I have no idea what part of the internet you're reading. The game has gotten insane praise.
 
Why is the last of us getting snubbed so much? Got it in my Christmas backlog, super Mario 3d world is keeping me busy, but otherwise am really looking forward to it. Is it just cool to hate on popular games now?

Is it really that unbelievable that someone might play it and still have ten other games they liked more this year?
 
Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed?

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Why is the last of us getting snubbed so much? Got it in my Christmas backlog, super Mario 3d world is keeping me busy, but otherwise am really looking forward to it. Is it just cool to hate on popular games now?

It's not getting snubbed, it's leading the media goty picks the last I checked and it seems likely it's going to win gaf's goty too. I haven't exactly added them up but it seems like every other post in that thread has it at #1.

It's just every time it's not listed somewhere naughty dog/sony fans go apeshit and rage.
 
yep. it was like uncharted with better gunplay
And a dreadfully inferior plot. The Uncharted series actually has a nice grouping of side characters, while every single character in Tomb Raider that wasn't Lara may as well not even exist.
 
It's not getting snubbed, it's leading the media goty picks the last I checked and it seems likely it's going to win gaf's goty too. I haven't exactly added them up but it seems like every other post in that thread has it at #1.

It's just every time it's not listed somewhere naughty dog/sony fans go apeshit and rage.
I really have not been paying attention, I read GAF and it seems like the game has been trashed. Lesson: don't pay too much attention to GAF :p
 
Why is the last of us getting snubbed so much? Got it in my Christmas backlog, super Mario 3d world is keeping me busy, but otherwise am really looking forward to it. Is it just cool to hate on popular games now?

the last of us is this year's game of the year for many, many publications. gamespot and the new yorker are the only ones that stand out for not including it at #1 (or in the new yorker's case, not at all).

after i first played it, it was my favorite or second-favorite game this year. i played gone home last night and a lot of the things the last of us did so very right, gone home did so much better. it lessens the impact of the last of us for me, and if i had to make my own list, it would probably be in my top ten still, but much closer to the bottom.
 
Jaffe said on twitter (in the replies) that he wasn't a big fan of the gameplay of TLOU as he isn't big into stealth games, but he enjoyed the story. So it's understandable why he wouldn't put it on his Top 10 list if he didn't really have fun while playing. "But I found the core loop unfun enough that the story and story presentation- which I did really think were well done and cool- were not enough to make me want to keep playing."

This is getting pretty ridiculous the way some people are acting because TLOU isn't on someone's list, lol.
 
I don't know if I can live in a world where everyone doesn't reflect my opinion on video games, I just...I just can't stand the thought of that.

Mods, pls ban any top 10/GotY that doesn't include TLOU. Its pretty clear to me they're just trying to be cool and vote for niche games like Zelda Link Between Whatever the Fuck
 
I liked it well enough, but I found the ending really cloying and it soured me on the whole thing.

the ending could have gone one of two ways the way it was set up and i am really glad it went the way it did.

death is a really overused device in video games, especially today when it's used for easy emotional manipulation (see also: the last of us's opening). i much prefer the realization of who you are, melodramatic voice acting be damned.
 
Wow, Link Between Worlds, Resogun, Dragon's Crown, Lego Marvel. He even listed Transformed even if it didn't come out this year. Good guy Jaffe...
 
People not looking further than no TLoU....

.. I mean Dragon's Crown makes his top 10. Awesome. That game is addicting like hell. That, and including Sonic Racing plus Resogun does prove the guy has taste. Those are legitimately fun games.

I've played quite a bit of games I liked more than TLoU too, such as TR, DC, Rayman Legends...
 
another goddamn videogames hipster who can't recognize the greatness of TLoU



there I got that out of the way guys

anyways, glad to see Volgarr make a top 10. sick game.

Fucking fuck no fucking Last of Fucking Us at the top? Fuck shit damn. Fuck.

TLOU fans incoming

Another The Last of Us thread incoming.

I won't lie, though. There is something in the back of my mind that makes me think some won't include it in their top 10 just to be different, but I realize that's stupid for the most part and I'm trying to accept that people just don't think it was one of the best 10 games this year.

Wut No Last of Us Microsoft shill amirite

tlou fans are starting to get real douchey

much love for the Volgarr pick

Damn, this is worse than the TLOU fans meltdowns. At least let them come.
 
And a dreadfully inferior plot. The Uncharted series actually has a nice grouping of side characters, while every single character in Tomb Raider that wasn't Lara may as well not even exist.


I don't really play games for the plot. thats what movies and books are for.
 
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