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I'm not the one to judge people's taste. If people wants to play with Marie & Honoka why stop them? This game is all about fan service after all, if people like them and showing their support then good for them and more power to them.

This series is dead to me if Honkers is in and Helena isn't.

/s

really though
 
I know it probably wouldn't sell nearly as well, but I wish there were a version with dudes.

Hit that ball, Rig. Hit it.

Yep, 5 was a pretty big change for the series in terms of art

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This picture should be posted in every 'Best character redesigns' thread ever. Unbelievable work. Too beautiful for this sinful earth, and an awesome fighting style to boot.
This. Staggering improvement, for real. The faces are so fucking gorgeous.
 
Pretty sure she will make it.
This is the current ranking based on number of ratings each theme has received. Keep in mind not every one who purchases a theme will rate it, so actual rankings may be different. Number in brackets is PS4+Vita.

#1 Marie Rose 164 (127+37)
#2 Honoka 142 (107+35)
#3 Kasumi 114 (96+18)
#4 Kokoro 96 (69+27)
#5 Ayane 94 (77+17)
#6 Nyotengu 93 (68+25)
#7 Hitomi 76 (65+11)
#8 Leifang 67 (48+19)
#9 Momiji 63 (49+14)
#10 Helena 60 (48+12)
#11 Tina 48 (39+9)
#12 Mila 42 (28+14)
#13 Lisa 26 (21+5)
#14 Christie 20 (18+2)
#15 Rachel 19 (16+3)

PS4 version seems quite a bit more popular, for themes at least. Maybe that will be reflected in game sales.
Helena, Tina and Christie being so far in the back upsets me
 
Pretty sure she will make it.
This is the current ranking based on number of ratings each theme has received. Keep in mind not every one who purchases a theme will rate it, so actual rankings may be different. Number in brackets is PS4+Vita.

#1 Marie Rose 164 (127+37)
#2 Honoka 142 (107+35)
#3 Kasumi 114 (96+18)
#4 Kokoro 96 (69+27)
#5 Ayane 94 (77+17)
#6 Nyotengu 93 (68+25)
#7 Hitomi 76 (65+11)
#8 Leifang 67 (48+19)
#9 Momiji 63 (49+14)
#10 Helena 60 (48+12)
#11 Tina 48 (39+9)
#12 Mila 42 (28+14)
#13 Lisa 26 (21+5)
#14 Christie 20 (18+2)
#15 Rachel 19 (16+3)

PS4 version seems quite a bit more popular, for themes at least. Maybe that will be reflected in game sales.

I'm pretty happy with these ranking results so far. Would definitely like to see Mila move into the top 9 though, get Honoka or Leifang out or something. Or DLC characters at least.
 
I have no doubt that there are probably more polys in XBV3, but there's something off, maybe it's the textures, that gives it that plastic-y doll look. TT, while it may be inferior technically, has models that look more realistic, less artificial, with better facial structures and contours.

But I will reiterate that my complaints are mainly directed at this version of Kasumi. The blonde chick (Hilda?) comparison that someone posted a few ago is significantly better looking.

The character's name is Helena. And yes, she's definitely one of the game's better designs (upgraded from being one of the worst previously), but the skin shading and general modelling is consistent across pretty much all the characters, and all sit a good amount above Tekken imo. I find it weird that you'd describe the look as "plastic-y" to be honest. I would definitely have agreed with that for prior DoA games (which was of course intentional at the time), but definitely not for DoA5, which I think handles skin better than basically all comparable fighters that I can think of.

I mean... this is Tekken SEVEN. This IS their next generation hotties.
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TTT2 is significantly worse... and along with stuff like Street Fighter V, these characters literally do look like action figures. Their skin doesn't look like skin at all, and it's hard to even imagine that if poked, it would actually flex. Dead or Alive is far ahead in this area. Tekken and Dead or Alive have swapped roles in regards to who looks like plastic.

Also, you seem to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in regards the hair looking no more complicated than the OG Xbox games... This is from Dead or Alive 2 Ultimate, the last version of Kasumi to hit that console.

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The hair isn't even in the same universe. In fact Tekken 7 (again) is a closer comparison.
 
Why is Christie so low? I feel like it must be a mistake.

Older women tend not to be popular in Japan. I mean look at this:

Pretty sure she will make it.
This is the current ranking based on number of ratings each theme has received. Keep in mind not every one who purchases a theme will rate it, so actual rankings may be different. Number in brackets is PS4+Vita.

#1 Marie Rose 164 (127+37) Age: 18
#2 Honoka 142 (107+35) Age: 18
#3 Kasumi 114 (96+18) Age: 19
#4 Kokoro 96 (69+27) Age: 19
#5 Ayane 94 (77+17) Age: 18
#6 Nyotengu 93 (68+25) Age: 1018 (people probably just subtracted the 1000)
#7 Hitomi 76 (65+11) Age: 20
#8 Leifang 67 (48+19) Age: 21
#9 Momiji 63 (49+14) Age: 21

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#10 Helena 60 (48+12) Age: 23
#11 Tina 48 (39+9) Age: 24
#12 Mila 42 (28+14) Age: 21
#13 Lisa 26 (21+5) Age: 23
#14 Christie 20 (18+2) Age: 26
#15 Rachel 19 (16+3) Age: Unknown (looks to be late 20's, early 30's)

PS4 version seems quite a bit more popular, for themes at least. Maybe that will be reflected in game sales.

It's fucked up, I blame anime for bringing back the Christmas Cake mentality.

I'm hoping the "adjusted" version for us just means we'll be allowed to vote for who we want.
 
Why is Christie so low? I feel like it must be a mistake.

Too dominant for someone that has not the typical "1000 year old demon" trope. Japan fear her.

edit: and yeah for the ratings != actual vote numbers. I doubt Kasumi is #3, even if Marie is obviously top 2.
 
Why at this point do they not just give you the option to play vollyball naked?

You have the microest of microbikinis. Just let them be naked.
 
I know it probably wouldn't sell nearly as well, but I wish there were a version with dudes.

Hit that ball, Rig. Hit it.
We definitely need a dudes version. Bayman's Bulging Beach Body Bonanza.

I'm surprised you're a Rig man Monocle. I thought you'd go for Hayate.
 
Older women tend not to be popular in Japan. I mean look at this:



It's fucked up, I blame anime for bringing back the Christmas Cake mentality.

I'm hoping the "adjusted" version for us just means we'll be allowed to vote for who we want.

This mentality is silly.
A) If I were to do a ranking for the American themes based on ratings, then all those same girls save Tina would still not be in the top 9.
B) The fanbase of these games is hardly representative of what the overall population feels.
 
We definitely need a dudes version. Bayman's Bulging Beach Body Bonanza.

I'm surprised you're a Rig man Monocle. I thought you'd go for Hayate.
Hayate's my #2, but Rig... unf. A tad bulky in the arms, but I can work with it.

He's got a great face, and although some of his tattoos are dumb if you look too closely, their placement makes a nice abstract pattern because they're monochrome.

Get iiiiiiiiiiit. (NSFW?
Bros doing bro stuff.
)
 
This mentality is silly.
A) If I were to do a ranking for the American themes based on ratings, then all those same girls save Tina would still not be in the top 9.
B) The fanbase of these games is hardly representative of what the overall population feels.

My christmas cake comment was supposed to be a joke, apologies if it came off as me painting a huge brush on the population there. T_T
 
Older women tend not to be popular in Japan. I mean look at this:



It's fucked up, I blame anime for bringing back the Christmas Cake mentality.

I'm hoping the "adjusted" version for us just means we'll be allowed to vote for who we want.

I don't think that is how they are voting. If TN slapped a 59 on Kasumi's age and didn't change anything else she'd still be super popular. The western characters are not popular in Japan.
 
My christmas cake comment was supposed to be a joke, apologies if it came off as me painting a huge brush on the population there. T_T

I don't mean to direct that at only you. Just some people seem to act like those characters are only unpopular because Japan, even though if I were to do the same thing with the American version of the themes, girls like Christie and Rachel would be at the bottom while girls like Honoka would be at the top.
I bet if they had a western vote for which 9 characters would be in, the roster wouldn't change much.
 
Hayate's my #2, but Rig... unf. A tad bulky in the arms, but I can work with it.

He's got a great face, and although some of his tattoos are dumb if you look too closely, their placement makes a nice abstract pattern because they're monochrome.

Get iiiiiiiiiiit. (NSFW?
Bros doing bro stuff.
)
I love Rig's design, but his arms are too beefy. Dude is too swole.

Bayman is best though.
 
Hayate's my #2, but Rig... unf. A tad bulky in the arms, but I can work with it.

He's got a great face, and although some of his tattoos are dumb if you look too closely, their placement makes a nice abstract pattern because they're monochrome.

Get iiiiiiiiiiit. (NSFW?
Bros doing bro stuff.
)
If he didn't have the tattoos, I'd enjoy him a lot more. (I like his arms.) He's still alright IMO. Bayman is my forever #1 though.

I hope the new character they're revealing next spring(?) is a dude. (And not another ugly endboss guy.)
 
Pretty sure she will make it.
This is the current ranking based on number of ratings each theme has received. Keep in mind not every one who purchases a theme will rate it, so actual rankings may be different. Number in brackets is PS4+Vita.

#1 Marie Rose 164 (127+37)
#2 Honoka 142 (107+35)
#3 Kasumi 114 (96+18)
#4 Kokoro 96 (69+27)
#5 Ayane 94 (77+17)
#6 Nyotengu 93 (68+25)
#7 Hitomi 76 (65+11)
#8 Leifang 67 (48+19)
#9 Momiji 63 (49+14)
#10 Helena 60 (48+12)
#11 Tina 48 (39+9)
#12 Mila 42 (28+14)
#13 Lisa 26 (21+5)
#14 Christie 20 (18+2)
#15 Rachel 19 (16+3)

PS4 version seems quite a bit more popular, for themes at least. Maybe that will be reflected in game sales.

I'm not even that into DOA but that top two?

What the FUCK, Japan.
 
Christie is my main in DOA. If she's not included, I won't be buying it. I'm still hopeful this is publicity stunt and we'll see more than just the 9.
 
Christie is my main in DOA. If she's not included, I won't be buying it. I'm still hopeful this is publicity stunt and we'll see more than just the 9.

I'm sure you'll eventually see more than 9. I'm willing to believe there will only be 9 at launch though.
 
they are already in the main series, why can't this spin off series of games have only women
Because it's better to be inclusive? And that by adding the men, nothing is being taken away from people who prefer the ladies? Literally everyone wins.

There's a ton of games that focus solely on female characters in terms of sexualization, and precious few that offer the same treatment to the male characters; it's time to change that. If the issue is that you can handle seeing dudes in swimsuits, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
Because it's better to be inclusive? And that by adding the men, nothing is being taken away from people who prefer the ladies? Literally everyone wins.

There's a ton of games that focus solely on female characters in terms of sexualization, and precious few that offer the same treatment to the male characters; it's time to change that. If the issue is that you can handle seeing dudes in swimsuits, then I don't know what to tell you.

there are more male characters that are "sexualised" look at other fighting games like tekken more male to female fighters
 
Because it's better to be inclusive? And that by adding the men, nothing is being taken away from people who prefer the ladies? Literally everyone wins.

There's a ton of games that focus solely on female characters in terms of sexualization, and precious few that offer the same treatment to the male characters; it's time to change that. If the issue is that you can handle seeing dudes in swimsuits, then I don't know what to tell you.
I understand your situation but not every game needs to appeal to everyone. It's like requesting Playboy to include pictures of naked men too just to be fair. I'm pretty sure fans wouldn't be happy if they did that.

You should instead ask Team Ninja to make a male version of DOAX.
 
Because it's better to be inclusive? And that by adding the men, nothing is being taken away from people who prefer the ladies? Literally everyone wins.

I agree with the bolded, but I do take some issue with "nothing being taken away".

If there is no increase in budget, but they add male characters, that means there will be less female characters. I can understand why someone who doesn't care about men wouldn't want that. Personally I am fine if they want to split it 5F/4M.
 
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