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[akileese]

That was disturbing...but also very compelling. Let's see if the actual game lives up to the fancy trailers. Was that in-game too by the way? It looked not great enough for CGI but a little too good for PS4 in-game graphics so far.

But why show this already today and not tomorrow on the PSX event for the perfect hype.

It was, according to Geoff, 100 percent in engine and running on a PS4 Pro in 4k. Also they showed it here because Geoff Keighley fucking hates Konami for locking Kojima in a room and refusing to let him come to the Game Awards last year. Kojima wanted to be there so it made sense for him to show up this year.

If this game is really Guerilla's engine, and Mark Cerny is involved, I'd have to imagine that this is Playstation exclusive or at the most, PS4 and PC.

 

[Toni]

I for one, am clutch af 112% down with the theme of Death Stranding lol.

Legion of the dead in WW2 with parasitic infections and superstious powers shit while being very action centric at the helm? With Kojima style gameplay????

Sign me the heck up and asap, please.

Hell, If Kojima remotely wants this to be the game of the generation just for shits and giggles, all he needs to do is simply throw in his trademark stealth mechanics and call it day.

The theme already stands out than 98% of games already released this gen.

You know that the Gameplay will be amazing with this concept. And now that he has time to develop a GREAT story, and with Mads on board, this will no doubt shaping up to be game of the generation.

Kojima has everything going for him now. Let the genius come back to life.

 

[AAMARMO]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

 

[Lifejumper]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Holy shit.

 

[Brock2621]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

wuuuuuuuuuuut. wow

 

[galvenize]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Kojima is my drug.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Not only that, Kojima watched Stranger Things, so it's not that much of a stretch to think it had some influence on his choice for this trailer given the juxtaposition.

Kojima does whatever he wants.
MGSV was playing that 80s style of music before Stranger Things was even released.

Stranger Things plays an old track that Kojima used in one of his trailers last year.

 

[Ratrat]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Um...Is there any reason at all to believe this?

 

[ironcreed]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

That will not be controversial at all, lol. But I love the fact that he has the balls, so I am all in. It looks like is going to be a total mindfuck.

 

[akileese]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

I hope Hideo Kojima never stops making games.

 

[Hexa]

I'm calling bullshit on the leak. It's clearly supposed to be US WWII soldiers.

 

[popcrnshower]

2 years, 2 trailers..still no idea what this game is but it looks cool.

 

[Modest Mauser]

there's no way the "hitler did nothing wrong" meme is the point of the story

 

[Graphics Horse]

Kojima fans worshipping every turd that 4chan poops in their mouths again

 

[Loudninja]

Um...Is there any reason at all to believe this?

Not really at this point.

 

[Toni]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Give me Kojima or give me death.

Thisistoomuch.gif

 

[Thabass]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

I love this man so much.

 

[Vanadium]

This looks wacky enough to be more interested in.

 

[Ratrat]

Not really at this point.

This is like 'leaking' MGS3's twist before even seeing the Boss or any gameplay.

 

[ironcreed]

Yeah, I am going to sit back and wait before putting too much stock into the leak. I am in regardless, but it is best to wait and get confirmation.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Um...Is there any reason at all to believe this?

This is where I'm coming from, like is there absolutely any credit to this at all, or is it just someone on 4chan saying stuff?

 

[depths20XX]

Lol that 4chan leak. They are wearing US WWII uniforms...

 

[wapplew]

2 years, 2 trailers..still no idea what this game is but it looks cool.

What year is this?

 

[Shin-Ra]

This trailer needs to be posted on the official Playstation channel to get more views.

I reckon there might be an updated PSX version of the trailer tomorrow.

 

[Kaji AF16]

That presumed leak got me much more interested than the bizarre trailer.

"Game of the generation" assumptions are already being made without even knowing the genre, gameplay, graphics or release window of this thing...

 

[SlimySnake]

Arent the 4chan guys super Trump fans/white nationalists? why are we posting bs from there?

That said, kojima has been talking about taboo subjects for a while now. lamenting the fact that hes not allowed to make them. History is written by the victors and him being Japanese and on the losing side of the war might give him a different perspective than all the western directors portraying the Japanese and Nazi empires as pure evil. Maybe kojima wants to explore the truth in the middle, but i dont know how you cant portray nazis who gased 5 million jews as anything but pure evil.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I reckon there might be an updated PSX version of the trailer tomorrow.

I hope for an extended version with gameplay.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I reckon MGS4 in the first showing but that was the trend of 2005 showing pre-rendered stuff for PS3 but I don't think MGSV was downgraded. The differences shown in comparisons were just design choices.

Not true for MGSV, at least not on PC.

You can get better IQ but the asset quality is much different, things like lighting, skin shaders, and models were a lot better in the e2 2013 trailer.

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

By god I hope this isn't true as that would be absolutely fucked up and unacceptable.

Arent the 4chan guys super Trump fans/white nationalists? why are we posting bs from there?

That said, kojima has been talking about taboo subjects for a while now. lamenting the fact that hes not allowed to make them. History is written by the victors and him being Japanese and on the losing side of the war might give him a different perspective than all the western directors portraying the Japanese and Nazi empires as pure evil. Maybe kojima wants to explore the truth in the middle, but i dont know how you cant portray nazis who gased 5 million jews as anything but pure evil.

The thing is that there's very little moral grey or in the middle part of it, it's one of the only moments in history that was much more black and white about who was in the right since the other side was all about pure white supremacy.

 

[Stinkles]

Best music I've heard in a trailer this season.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Sharp knuckles.

 

[ViolentP]

Arent the 4chan guys super Trump fans/white nationalists? why are we posting bs from there?

That said, kojima has been talking about taboo subjects for a while now. lamenting the fact that hes not allowed to make them. History is written by the victors and him being Japanese and on the losing side of the war might give him a different perspective than all the western directors portraying the Japanese and Nazi empires as pure evil. Maybe kojima wants to explore the truth in the middle, but i dont know how you cant portray nazis who gased 5 million jews as anything but pure evil.

I see it as nothing more than storytelling. And to tackle an idea with so many facts working against it would be a challenge for an excellent storyteller.

 

[Aki-at]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Kojima please stop, Metal Gear Solid 4 was bad enough I don't want you topping it with this junk.

 

[Yukinari]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

When you play his game you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.

 

[Bolivar687]

"Game of the generation" assumptions are already being made without even knowing the genre, gameplay, graphics or release window of this thing...

When Martin Scorsese makes a new movie people naturally assume it will be in the running for best picture/director. Kojima is the only developer in this industry that has earned that kind of expectation IMO.

 

[AuthenticM]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

No fucking way can this be true. No way.

The balls he would need to make that story.

 

[mbpm1]

Some new info on the 4chan leak:

Spoiler

The enemy force has a very strong parallel to Nazis. To be frank with all of you, it was originally intended to be Nazis. We had to convince Kojima for a very long period to drop Nazi imagery and references; as that would surely have had the game canned (Kojima has had issues with Sony on this issue). While we did end up convincing him, the design on the enemies are obvious. This might not seem like a big deal in retrospect, but one of the core elements of the story in the end is that they were right all along. And that the story behind them was distorted (That is, Nazi legacy and intentions)

Honestly that was my first thought seeing mads looking like that

the parallels stood out to me but I was like "nah"

 

[Samurai G0SU]

Can they get Benedict Cumberbache to play some monster?

 

[Otnopolit]

Call me crazy, I'm gonna be skeptical of 4chan as a source of anything of value...

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

I don't quite understand what you're putting down Kojima, but I'm picking it up anyway.

 

[wilsonda]

After getting burned by hype on the mgsv trailers I am really trying to hold my hype down on this. It's Kojima again so no matter what happens it will ride the line between pure greatness and childish insanity

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It's weird to see people look at that 4chan leak and respond in a way that makes it seem it's 100% true. It honestly could be all made up and to be honest with the amount of details being shared I highly doubt it's real. The amount of details they're revealing is something only Kojima or someone very close to him that he trusts would know, not some random person who happens to work for GDT. I'm calling absolute bullshit.

 

[Tovarisc]

No fucking way can this be true. No way.

The balls he would need to make that story.

If leak is legit then he has huge balls, but publisher(s) wouldn't touch it.

 

[Ragnar Blackmane]

I'm calling bullshit on the leak. It's clearly supposed to be US WWII soldiers.

there's no way the "hitler did nothing wrong" meme is the point of the story

This.
They could still have easily gone with Wehrmacht/SS troop legion of the dead rather than US troops if that was the intention all along, without directly tying them to the actual "evil power" (I would be extremely surprised if the skeletons/possessed vehicles turn out to be more than just minions controlled with the ropes).
Also Uncharted 1 featured Nazis (even as mutated enemies - not much difference to undead), so I am calling bullshit on that new leak.

I am glad for that, "Nazi zombies" are pretty stale at this point (to the point of being a trope), WWII US army of the dead and possessed is refreshing. It actually makes it even creepier.

 

[depths20XX]

That 4chan post just reads like a play on the "Hitler did nothing wrong" meme. Are yall being serious right now?

 

[AAMARMO]

Can they get Benedict Cumberbache to play some monster?

Rumour got replaced by

Spoiler

Ryan Reynolds

due to him not interested and had creative differences.

 

[cyborg009]

Story spoilers

http://i.imgur.com/DGmcujL.png

Click at your own risk.

seems legit.

 

[Dreez]

Nah I think they all live in purgatory... the babies are unborn children that have life that Mads is consuming in order to control everything and all the souls. Norman Reedus arrives and won't let Mads take his babeh.

 

[GravityInsanity]

I reckon there might be an updated PSX version of the trailer tomorrow.

Like someone posted earlier it looks like Kojima has been watching Naruto.

 

[mbpm1]

there's no way the "hitler did nothing wrong" meme is the point of the story

idk, would probably sell well in a post-truth world

 

[Hexa]

Arent the 4chan guys super Trump fans/white nationalists? why are we posting bs from there?

That said, kojima has been talking about taboo subjects for a while now. lamenting the fact that hes not allowed to make them. History is written by the victors and him being Japanese and on the losing side of the war might give him a different perspective than all the western directors portraying the Japanese and Nazi empires as pure evil. Maybe kojima wants to explore the truth in the middle, but i dont know how you cant portray nazis who gased 5 million jews as anything but pure evil.

Though I think the leak is bs, I agree with you on what themes he seems to be using kind of. What I got from that is that the enemies are symbolic of the American Japan occupying force at the end of WWII, with them being portrayed as the villains, which lines up much more with what I would expect from Kojima.