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December NBA Season Thread - Fuck the police

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DMczaf said:
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WTF?

Why does Ming look like a Wang?
 
I'm sorry, I'm still in rant mode.


We won, but who cares, it was against Atlanta.

WHY THE FUCK IS BARRETT ONLY PLAYING 2 MINUTES?! FUCK TYRONE LUE! WHO GIVES A SHIT IF HE CAME OFF OF THE IR!? STICK HIS ASS AT THE END OF THE BENCH!

ARGH! Even in wins, Van Gundy manages to piss me off. Take a pointguard who has been a decent contributor the past 2 weeks...and NAIL HIM TO THE BENCH! FUCKING HELL!
 
I watched the Kobe interview on PTI last night, and he needs to seriously reconsider these interviews. Fire his agents!

Now mind you, Tony and Wilbon were asking some pretty stupid questions like, "What do you regret?" and "What would you say to Shaq?" C'mon guys, don't ask such loaded questions.

But Kobe's answers were pathetic. When asked about Malone, Shaq, Phil, other players in the league, the bad press, he was like, "Uh, hmm, I don't know, it was blown out of proportion." I lost count at how many time he had that response. Then when asked about if he ran Phil and Shaq out of L.A. (of course what is he supposed to say), he completely denied it and said he had nothing to do with it.

I don't think these PR interviews are going to help him at all. He looked extremely uncomfortable during the whole thing.

But, he did mention Loki. When asked about the Karl drama, he said that he never mentioned it publically, that it was Malone who made it public. He then said that all of this is in interviews and that he could show them [Loki's] tapes. It was hilarious.
 
AirBrian said:
I watched the Kobe interview on PTI last night, and he needs to seriously reconsider these interviews. Fire his agents!

I don't think these PR interviews are going to help him at all. He looked extremely uncomfortable during the whole thing.

But, he did mention Loki. When asked about the Karl drama, he said that he never mentioned it publically, that it was Malone who made it public. He then said that all of this is in interviews and that he could show them [Loki's] tapes. It was hilarious.

Yeah his agents definitely suck. Still, they are doing the right thing by getting him out there. Their old strategy of just letting everyone taking shots at Kobe and not responding was clearly not working.

Besides Kobe said he wants to apologize to Shaq. The Heat have not given Shaq an extension yet and Shaq is a free agent next year.

Which all leads to Konex's worst nightmare, Shaq is going to come back to LA next year!
 
I like the Spurs game last night. They made a good comeback. I'm still wondering if they can keep a 15 point lead with 5 minutes to go.
 
bionic77 said:
Yeah his agents definitely suck. Still, they are doing the right thing by getting him out there. Their old strategy of just letting everyone taking shots at Kobe and not responding was clearly not working.

Besides Kobe said he wants to apologize to Shaq. The Heat have not given Shaq an extension yet and Shaq is a free agent next year.

Which all leads to Konex's worst nightmare, Shaq is going to come back to LA next year!
I don't know. He looked really bad. He had to know that those type of questions were going to be asked. He either was completely unprepared, is a horrible public speaker, or is just bad at lying. (Or a combination of.)

For this to work, he really needs to be more responsive and eloquent and not sound like a complete moron.
 
alejob said:
I didn't now Phoenix had a little chinnese girl point guard in their team.

You haven't heard of Yuta Tabuse?

The man Bill Simmons described as...

(And by the way, if you haven't seen Yuta Tabuse in action, make sure you TiVo the next Suns blowout. I don't want to spoil it for you. Just imagine if you crossed Earl Boykins with a sushi chef, pumped caffeine into him and threw a uniform on him. Would you be interested to see what transpired? I thought so.)

Just another great part of a great team.

6 in a row? Stakes for Sonics game get even bigger now.
 
AirBrian said:
I don't know. He looked really bad. He had to know that those type of questions were going to be asked. He either was completely unprepared, is a horrible public speaker, or is just bad at lying. (Or a combination of.)

For this to work, he really needs to be more responsive and eloquent and not sound like a complete moron.

You have to remember all of those Shaq questions are dicey because they involve sealed testimony that is part of ongoing litigation. Still, you are right that his answers were not very eloquent. Whoever his people are right now, he needs to ditch them and get someone better. Even with all of the legal stuff aside, they should have been able to come up with a better coached answer then what he gave them. Kobe is definitely capable of being more eloquent then this though, I think he was being careful of what he couldn't say.
 
bionic77 said:
You have to remember all of those Shaq questions are dicey because they involve sealed testimony that is part of ongoing litigation. Still, you are right that his answers were not very eloquent. Whoever his people are right now, he needs to ditch them and get someone better. Even with all of the legal stuff aside, they should have been able to come up with a better coached answer then what he gave them. Kobe is definitely capable of being more eloquent then this though, I think he was being careful of what he couldn't say.
I know Kobe can be very eloquent, that's why I was a little surprised at how bad he looked. That's also why I think these PR interviews are a bad idea right now. If I were him, I would definitely try to get my side of the Malone/wife issue out. However, he has to know that people are going to ask about Shaq and Phil. Now Kobe is clearly in the wrong with ratting out Shaq and is pretty much responsible for Shaq and Phil leaving. It doesn't take a professional interrogator to see that Kobe was BS'ing his answers. His constant eye-shifting, body movement, completely ignoring questions and giving a semi-standard blanket answer of everything being blown out of proportion. But maybe he could just say something to the effect that there is an ongoing litigation and that he shouldn't talk about certain matters until it's over. I mean, what's the point of doing interviews if you're only going to say, "I don't really want to talk about that," or "that's between me and him"? I just don't see how it can help.

Anyway, not to continue beating the dead horse, but he needs better coaches and agents otherwise he's only going to make himself look worse.
 
Hey guys, I have an idea. How about we create a topic dedicated to the egotistical asshole known as Kobe Bryant and his drama queen antics, so we don't have to continue filling the NBA thread with the nauseting stories about his life and just talk about basketball?

We can still mock him in here when his team loses by twenty and he goes 5 for 27 with 8 TOs.

Yeah, sorry. I know no one will listen, but I'm sick of this, the media is taking it to far. How many times do we need to hear about this guy a day?
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Hey guys, I have an idea. How about we create a topic dedicated to the egotistical asshole known as Kobe Bryant and his drama queen antics, so we don't have to continue filling the NBA thread with the nauseting stories about his life and just talk about basketball?

We can still mock him in here when his team loses by twenty and he goes 5 for 27 with 8 TOs.

Yeah, sorry. I know no one will listen, but I'm sick of this, the media is taking it to far. How many times do we need to hear about this guy a day?

:lol

If you take away the Kobe hate and Laker hate (and Konex's man love for Kobe) there really isn't much left to this thread.

edit: I forgot to mention the Van Gundy hate and T-Mac love. That about sums up 80% of the posts.
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Hey guys, I have an idea. How about we create a topic dedicated to the egotistical asshole known as Kobe Bryant and his drama queen antics, so we don't have to continue filling the NBA thread with the nauseting stories about his life and just talk about basketball?

We can still mock him in here when his team loses by twenty and he goes 5 for 27 with 8 TOs.

Yeah, sorry. I know no one will listen, but I'm sick of this, the media is taking it to far. How many times do we need to hear about this guy a day?

UGH...as I was reading this post....Rome comes on...first topic...KOBE BRYANT! MAKE IT STOP!
 
bionic77 said:
:lol

If you take away the Kobe hate and Laker hate (and Konex's man love for Kobe) there really isn't much left to this thread.

edit: I forgot to mention the Van Gundy hate and T-Mac love. That about sums up 80% of the posts.

Well there are, you know, actual good teams like the Suns, Sonics, and Spurs. But I like all the Laker-loving and everyone-else-laughing; this thread wouldn't be 10% as fun w/o Kobex.
 
:lol

The Bulls aren't looking half bad as of late actually. Plus Curry seems to be showing signs of life. But we all know that can be erased in a matter of a couple of games. :-P
 
AstroLad said:
Well there are, you know, actual good teams like the Suns, Sonics, and Spurs. But I like all the Laker-loving and everyone-else-laughing; this thread wouldn't be 10% as fun w/o Kobex.

The NBA regular season is pretty boring for the good teams (damn I remember when the Lakers were a good team). You know they are going to make it, it is only a matter of what seed they will get and even homecourt doesn't seem to matter that much anymore. The only ones who are going to get excited over the regular season are people who get excited by stats or the people with teams on the playoff bubble.

Obviously we need to fill in the rest of the season with the absurdities of NBA players going hungry or hunting hot Mexican girls.
 
bionic77 said:
The NBA regular season is pretty boring for the good teams (damn I remember when the Lakers were a good team).

You haven't watched many Suns games have you? It may be little more than an exhibition in some games, but if you love basketball there's no way you could be bored by that, regular season or not. Now if I were a fan of an Eastern Conference team, or the Rockets, I would stab myself in the eyes rather than watch multiple regular season games.
 
AstroLad said:
You haven't watched many Suns games have you? It may be little more than an exhibition in some games, but if you love basketball there's no way you could be bored by that, regular season or not. Now if I were a fan of an Eastern Conference team, or the Rockets, I would stab myself in the eyes rather than watch multiple regular season games.

I am sure they look great, but with 82 games those wins don't mean much.
 
I don't mind all the crap we write in here. In fact, I love it. I love KOBEX ficticious love affair with Kobe. :-P

But stuff like Kobe's cry for attention is sickening and most of you know it. He is an attention whore and continues to get more people to dislike him with every day that goes by.
 
AstroLad said:
So? It's still not boring; I thought that's what we were talking about.

I don't know. I can't get excited over NBA games until the NFL season is over. Even when the Lakers were good I only half paid attention until after the Steelers were eliminated. I have seen so many Lakers teams that had great regular season choke in the playoffs. To me the NBA regular season is just glorified practice.
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
:lol

The Bulls aren't looking half bad as of late actually. Plus Curry seems to be showing signs of life. But we all know that can be erased in a matter of a couple of games. :-P
Hell yeah! They're 3-2 in their last 5 games with some impressive wins:

Wed, Dec 8 Cleveland W 113-85
Fri, Dec 10 Philadelphia L 88-93
Sat, Dec 11 Minnesota W 99-88
Mon, Dec 13 Dallas L 93-94
Wed, Dec 15 at Memphis W 96-88
 
bionic77 said:
I don't know. I can't get excited over NBA games until the NFL season is over. Even when the Lakers were good I only half paid attention until after the Steelers were eliminated. I have seen so many Lakers teams that had great regular season choke in the playoffs. To me the NBA regular season is just glorified practice.

Well I'm a Cardinals fan; maybe that will help you see my side of things. And if the bubble teams in the West treat it as "glorified practice," they're not making the playoffs, Lakers included.
 
AstroLad said:
Well I'm a Cardinals fan; maybe that will help you see my side of things. And if the bubble teams in the West treat it as "glorified practice," they're not making the playoffs, Lakers included.

Well the bubble teams like the Lakers are not good enough to treat it as practice. That is also why they will get eliminated quickly in the playoffs, they really can't play much better then what they do in the regular season.
 
bionic77 said:
Well the bubble teams like the Lakers are not good enough to treat it as practice. That is also why they will get eliminated quickly in the playoffs, they really can't play much better then what they do in the regular season.

OK we should be quiet now or we're gonna start to upset KOBEX.
 
Cloudy said:
The Lakers will make the playoffs :)

I knew you'd hear! I never said they wouldn't, just if they don't take the season seriously.

Some good stuff by Simmons today on the Lakers/KOBE:

There's comedy, there's high comedy, there's transcendent comedy ... and then there's Kobe's contrived attempt to be the outgoing leader of this Lakers team.

But the biggest potential problem is Lamar Odom, who looks like he absolutely HATES playing with Kobe.

Believe me, I've been watching them all season -- partly because I'm so fascinated by Kobe's surreal attempt to be gregarious and supportive, partly because it's so darned enjoyable to root against them -- and poor Lamar is slowly getting the Private Pyle Face. During the Clips game, with Kobe on pace for a shot a minute -- he finished with 32 shots in 37 minutes -- Odom snapped in the third quarter and started screaming at everyone: Kobe, Rudy T., Atkins, you name it. "GET ME THE (EXPLETIVE) BALL!" How could you blame him? He knew he could take Moore off the dribble. So they ran a few plays for him and Odom scored eight of the next ten points: Easy points, too. He could have scored 40 against this Clippers team; nobody could guard him.

Well, guess what? Kobe didn't like that. He launched the final three shots of the quarter.

Needless to say, I don't see this ending well. Odom proved in Miami that he's one of the top-25 players in the league. He isn't someone you want standing 25 feet from the basket watching Kobe going one-on-three. It's a waste of his considerable talents. That's why he's going to snap soon. I wish there was a way to wager on this, but I bet Odom will start bitching about Kobe behind closed doors. Then Kobe will react poorly, start pulling his puppet strings to get Mitch Kupchak to do something ... and suddenly you'll see old Lamar heading somewhere else for 75 cents on the dollar. If Odom is smart, he should speed the process up and hit on Kobe's wife after a game. Somebody needs to send him a cowboy hat and some boots.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/041216
 
Simmons is just another Kobe-hating 'tard. I do agree that they need to run more plays for Lamar though. Hell, Rudy needs to run more plays period. All they do in half-court sets is isos or pick and pops/rolls. P-R-E-D-I-C-T-A-B-L-E!!! Get some motion into the offense!!!! Run Kobe and Caron off screens. Anything!!!! >_<

PS: And Lamar needs to dunk the ball more since he's proven he can't lay it in.

One more note: if you're a Lakers fan, it's not a good sign that your team barely outlasted a Clippers team that was playing without Brand (suspended) and Kaman (appendix), especially when Simmons was battling foul trouble. Trailing by 10 for most of the game, the Clips staged a furious rally in the final few minutes, leading to Maggette's agonizing runner at the buzzer that banked off the backboard, swirled around the rim like a wad of toilet paper, then kicked out. I have never seen a game-saving shot come closer to going in without actually going in.

He also seems to forget the Lakers beat the Clipps convincingly WITH Brand playing and Simmons not in foul trouble. Oh and Kaman DID play that game and had like the play of the year too. Simmons is clueless...
 
Dudes....don't fuck with Rudy. If Kobe hadn't ran Shaq out of town, Rudy would probably be undefeated with last year's Lakers team. Rudy + Non-Marshmellow bigman = WINS
 
Cloudy said:
Simmons is just another Kobe-hating 'tard. I do agree that they need to run more plays for Lamar though. Hell, Rudy needs to run more plays period. All they do in half-court sets is isos or pick and pops/rolls. P-R-E-D-I-C-T-A-B-L-E!!! Get some motion into the offense!!!! Run Kobe and Caron off screens. Anything!!!! >_<

PS: And Lamar needs to dunk the ball more since he's proven he can't lay it in.



He also seems to forget the Lakers beat the Clipps convincingly WITH Brand playing and Simmons not in foul trouble. Oh and Kaman DID play that game and had like the play of the year too. Simmons is clueless...

True but...

Clippers C Chris Kaman, who had an emergency appendectomy two days earlier, played six minutes and scored two points [on free throws].

I'm sure that's what he meant, I mean he was at the game. And he discussed the other game in a previous column.
 
Miguel said:
Dudes....don't fuck with Rudy. If Kobe hadn't ran Shaq out of town, Rudy would probably be undefeated with last year's Lakers team. Rudy + Non-Marshmellow bigman = WINS

Hey I'll take him over Phil cos he actually gets along with the team's BEST player but he needs to run some plays. Phil sat there and daydreamed all day but the Lakers were running more than 2 ofensive sets each game >_<
 
Astro, the only reason Kaman played few minutes is cos Mikki Moore was KILLING the Lakers. Not cos Kaman couldn't go. Again, dude had like the play of the year in that game. Just SICK!!!! :lol
 
Cloudy said:
Hey I'll take him over Phil cos he actually gets along with the team's BEST player but he needs to run some plays. Phil sat there and daydreamed all day but the Lakers were running more than 2 ofensive sets each game >_<

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Woulda been more if it wasn't for your homeboy. Jackson is an egomaniac, but an egomaniac who wins championships, KOBE is just an egomaniac who kills teams apparently.

Astro, the only reason Kaman played few minutes is cos Mikki Moore was KILLING the Lakers. Not cos Kaman couldn't go. Again, dude had like the play of the year in that game. Just SICK!!!!

That doesn't change the fact he had an appendectomy two days earlier. When I had my appendectomy I could barely walk for a week. This is probably what Simmons was referring to, but he is a Clippers fan, so it's not like he's 100% objective like you.
 
That doesn't change the fact he had an appendectomy two days earlier. When I had my appendectomy I could barely walk for a week.

Don't make me get a clip of that play. And Mikki had a HUGE game in his place so Simmons has no point at all. And if he can't get simple facts straight, why should anyone buy his "Lamar hates playing with Kobe" crap. Typical BSPN hacks trying to start stuff >_<
 
Cloudy said:
Don't make me get a clip of that play. And Mikki had a HUGE game in his place so Simmons has no point at all. And if he can't get simple facts straight, why should anyone buy his "Lamar hates playing with Kobe" crap. Typical BSPN hacks trying to start stuff >_<

Because he's sitting right behind the visitors' bench watching Odom yelling at everybody because Kobe's such a ballhog? You don't have to believe it though!
 
AstroLad said:
Because he's sitting right behind the visitors' bench watching Odom yelling at everybody because Kobe's such a ballhog? You don't have to believe it though!

It's all about context, dude. Lamar has shown no indication that he doesn't like playing with Kobe/Lakers. Simmons is just trying to stir the pot.

PS: Never trust a Celtics fan's "analysis" of the Lakers :lol
 
Cloudy said:
PS: Never trust a Celtics fan's "analysis" of the Lakers :lol

Agreed, and like I said he doesn't claim to be as totally objective as you but you can't exactly say Kobe has a good track record of teammates loving him to defend himself from this analysis.
 
Cloudy said:
Kobe is top 10 in the league in assists. I dunno how anyone can call him a ballhog but whatever :D

Well he does take the second most shots out of anyone in the league and knocks those in at a whopping .397 clip, but hey if you say he's a real team player...
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Hey guys, I have an idea. How about we create a topic dedicated to the egotistical asshole known as Kobe Bryant and his drama queen antics, so we don't have to continue filling the NBA thread with the nauseting stories about his life and just talk about basketball?

We can still mock him in here when his team loses by twenty and he goes 5 for 27 with 8 TOs.

Yeah, sorry. I know no one will listen, but I'm sick of this, the media is taking it to far. How many times do we need to hear about this guy a day?

I've said this many a time. But this post is special...

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And I'm still pissed the Magic let that win slip from their hands against the Spurs last night. During the third quarter as the Magic were pounding the Spurs, my friend had to tell me repeatedly to shut the fuck up so we wouldn't get rolled from the angry and upset Spurs fans.

:lol :lol

I ended up eating my words, though.
 
Incognito said:
I've said this many a time. But this post is special...

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And I'm still pissed the Magic let that win slip from their hands against the Spurs last night. During the third quarter as the Magic were pounding the Spurs, my friend had to tell me repeatedly to shut the fuck up so we wouldn't get rolled from the angry and upset Spurs fans.

:lol :lol

I ended up eating my words, though.

For someone who looks like they are only 14 you sure have a lot of rage.
 
Takuan said:
Raptors got lucky. There's no way we can keep up such hot shooting, no way in hell...

... or is there (Sonics?)

Fuck, all my fantasy players did pretty poorly tonight. Q-Rich 1-7 with about 7 minutes to go in the fourth... sigh...

Sonics aren't the best shooting team in the leauge. They aren't even the 5th best shooting team in the leauge.

They're the 9th.

So when are people going to cease with the "THEY CANT SHOOT THIS WELL AND THUS THEY"LL FALL FROM GRACE" nonsense?

As I've said before, it's their REBOUNDING and TOUGHNESS that is making all the difference. They lead the leauge in offensive rebounding, and guess what that enables them to do? Fire up more shots.
 
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