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[Squirrel Killer]

The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.

What genius told him that?

 

[cutmeamango]

Sounds like a smart move by a smart guy.

 

[Deleted member 284]

Saw Maddow's discussing this yesterday. That shit is amazing.

 

[Piecake]

What genius told him that?

If only we had Nate Silver back then

But yea, guess Humphrey's patriot feelings bit him and America in the ass

 

[speculawyer]

I can't say that I'm surprised at all.

It is Nixon we are talking about here. Then again, LBJ wasn't really above such behavior either.


I don't much have much faith in mankind lasting for a few more thousands of years with the way we behave.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I think it's sad that I'm not surprised at this and ultimately am numb to it all.

 

[Dead Man]

LBJ should have blown the whistle on that shit.

 

[CornBurrito]

Didn't Reagan do a similar thing? Almost certainly organizing the release of the hostages before taking office?

Iran-Contra affair?

 

[Dresden]

What genius told him that?

That is so... Democrat.

 

[jtb]

Iran-Contra affair?

Well that too, but I was referring specifically to the release of the American hostages in the immediate aftermath of the revolution at the embassy timed very closely with Reagan winning. The original (would-be) October Surprise, I guess. But apparently Wikipedia says that no evidence has been found implicating him in making a deal with the Iranians....

(yet)

 

[matthewwhatever]

i read about this in nixonland. and yeah, reagan did the same thing(albeit not to extend a gruesome war) with iran

This was definitely talked about in great detail in Nixonland, so I don't understand why it's suddenly news again...is this the first time there's evidence that LBJ knew about it, too?

 

[Deleted member 284]

This was definitely talked about in great detail in Nixonland, so I don't understand why it's suddenly news again...is this the first time there's evidence that LBJ knew about it, too?

Yes. I'm guessing it couldn't be discussed in detail.

 

[Router]

I forget Nixon was a real piece of shit human and not just a cartoon character.

 

[BeEatNU]

damn

 

[beast786]

Don't forget Bush caused 9/11.

He certainly didnt stop it.

 

[speculawyer]

This was definitely talked about in great detail in Nixonland, so I don't understand why it's suddenly news again...is this the first time there's evidence that LBJ knew about it, too?

Well perhaps this is the first that audiotape that verifies it has been released?

 

[empty vessel]

Well perhaps this is the first that audiotape that verifies it has been released?

Yeah, it's the first time Johnson has been heard talking about it contemporaneous to its happening.

 

[SiegfriedFM]

Always remember, that the only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.

 

[Sibylus]

So in a ranking of the worst Americans, how close to the top spot does this piece of shit bat? Might've been preferable that he had chosen "serial killer" as his life's path.

 

[Vermillion]

Treason defense force assemble!

I am with you always, my lord.

Spoiler

(I'm not really with him, guys)

 

[SquiddyCracker]

It would be nice if he could be retroactively impeached for treason, maybe even have his portrait removed from the list of presidents.

 

[Sanky Panky]

You forgot Bush and weapons of mass destruction.

Give it 50 years. Too soon man... too soon.

 

[Burger]

The one secret no one ever suspected is that I DID stage the moon landing … on Venus! ARROOOOO! Muahahaha!

 

[bomma_man]

Wow. What a piece of shit. Although it's hard to judge any American president kindly on their foreign policy records. But I guess this is bad even by that standard.

 

[ToxicAdam]

LBJ was a guy that deeply cared about his legacy and was troubled in the last years of his life that this war pretty much erased away all the good he did (in the early 70's). So, it's not surprising to me that people whose job it is to preserve his legacy would float this out there in an attempt to influence history.

It's not like Nixon was alone in benefitting from the war going on a bit longer. The entire industrial/military complex was always convinced they could win that war if just given more men and more ability to strike outside of the parameters they were given. Still to this day that argument echoes. So, I think it's a bit presumptive to assume that this woman held enough sway to derail these talks by herself. Especially in that era where women were held in much lower regard than they are today.

 

[Dartastic]

You forgot Bush and weapons of mass destruction.

Love your avatar.

 

[devilhawk]

You forgot Bush and weapons of mass destruction.

Incompetence is not treason.

 

[Hermii]

I thought I had heard this before with Henry Kissinger playing both sides.

He did that in the Iraq Iran war.