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#DEFLATEGATE: Goodell never had any balls

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You don't punish the result, you punish the cheating. If they would have won anyway, they cheated. Even if they lost, they cheated.
I never said they shouldn't be punished. I didn't even infer it, I said they cheated. I just said the Colts suck regardless.
 
God I hate the fucking cheating Patriots. What a shit organization they are. Belichek hasn't won shit without cheating, that's what makes this so hilarious
 
So if the Patriots win they will still have not won a Super Bowl during the Brady/Belicheat era without an asterisk next to it for cheating. LMFAO.
 
Also if it was intentional then it's also possible that they've done it in the past. I mean I doubt you just come up with that right before a championship game.
 
They need to lose multiple draft picks. Maybe 2 first round picks. Spygate had them lose 1 and this just shows the Patriots way is still cheating.
 
25K fine incoming. Then a lifetime of even more whiny non pats fans.

Also if it was intentional then it's also possible that they've done it in the past. I mean I doubt you just come up with that right before a championship game.
By that thinking you have to be rather dense to think they were the only ones to ever do it.
 
Home team supplies baseballs, but anyone on either side or officials can ask for a new ball pretty much at any time.
Huh, there you go. Good the other team can swap them out.
I never said they shouldn't be punished. I didn't even infer it, I said they cheated. I just said the Colts suck regardless.

Indeed, sorry if my post implied you said that. Your post seemed to be downplaying the importance of the fact they cheated, and I was replying to that.

I hate seattle and I just realized I am now forced to root for them.

Fuck it, I'm in the "cancel the Super Bowl" camp.

Indeed. Well, hated both teams anyway, so I was always going to be in favour of cancelling lol.
 
Why do people make the point that both teams used the same ball? Only the team that knows the ball is deflated will know to take advantage of the ball being deflated and run their plays based on the ball being deflated,
 
Funny thing is it didn't even matter. Colts wouldn't have won anyways.
That's bullshit. Remember that kick vinateri missed in the 1st. With a deflated ball, he might have made it. Changes the momentum of the game. Maybe Andrew throws a better deep ball with a 2lb lighter ball? Fuck the Patriots.
 
If you're not cheatin' you're not tryin' or something!

That's bullshit. Remember that kick vinateri missed in the 1st. With a deflated ball, he might have made it. Changes the momentum of the game. Maybe Andrew throws a better deep ball with a 2lb lighter ball? Fuck the Patriots.
The allegation is that they underinflated their own balls.
 
Well then

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Wouldn't under inflated balls actually have hurt the pats in this matchup? Their strategy was to run and take away Luck's passing game, but under inflated balls would help Luck, in theory.
 
That's bullshit. Remember that kick vinateri missed in the 1st. With a deflated ball, he might have made it. Changes the momentum of the game. Maybe Andrew throws a better deep ball with a 2lb lighter ball? Fuck the Patriots.

Kickers use completely separate balls.

The question now, assuming this is true, is how they became underinflated. A good check would be to see if the Colt's footballs were also underinflated, and if not...shenanigans.
 
Why do people make the point that both teams used the same ball? Only the team that knows the ball is deflated will know to take advantage of the ball being deflated and run their plays based on the ball being deflated,
Bingo. It's the equivelent of a stockbroker with inside information about a stock. You know, so you can build your gameplan around how to take advantage of that while everyone else lacks that information so you gain a competitive advantage.
 
The fact that teams bring their own balls to games is a fucking joke.

Don't bother getting your hopes up. The NFL is (rightfully, I guess) an entirely self-serving organization, so when thinking about what's going to happen, do yourself a disheartening favor and look at it in the context of 'what will make the most/lose the least money for the NFL?'.

-2 7th round draft picks for the team that banks the most picks in the league.

 
Damn, fucking Patriots. They should be disqualified, but of course the league won't do anything because Seattle v. New England is an epic match up.
 
maybe now the nfl will stop letting teams bring their own balls. that's something i have never understood.

I...didn't even know this was a thing. wow.

I'm still kinda shocked about the whole thing. is this real? lol Although I'm not too surprised someone noticed this deflation because they all have been around footballs their whole life.
 
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