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Dengeki: 'Revolution is finished' !?

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Dutch news-site Inside-gamer reports that the Revolution console is finished, according to Japanese Dengeki. Rough translation:
Rumors say Nintendo is done developing the Revolution console. This is what the Japanese magazine Dengeki is stating. Nintendo didn't confirm this yet.

The Revolution is said to be done, but there are some little things that need to be changed/tweaked.
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Can anyone confirm Dengeki wrote this?
 
They probably have a lot to work on still on the software side and I don't mean the games.

I could see them pull an apple and release it right after e3.
 
They release their stuff right after their shows/conferences and don't announce everything a year in advance.

Christ you really have to spell things out in more detail here then in court.
 
elostyle said:
Sega did something like that?
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elostyle said:
Sega did something like that?
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From what I remember, the Saturn was scheduled to launch sometime in September back in 1995. But Sega wanted to beat the PSone out on the market so at E3 they announced the system was currently on sell.
 
Hm then they shouldn't go there then.
Well, it is a bit different because they plan a worldwide launch but still...
 
Finished? The prototype or the Retail version, Im not really surprised the Dolphin was nothing more then a huge PC case before launch. Rev already had a Casing and early Devkits have been shipped. Q2 launch seems possible we dont know how long key third party's have been messing with the system. Nintendo has been for quite a while now. EAD hasn't released a cube title this year.
 
Pellham said:
why release after E3 when there's no games?
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who told you there ar eno games, if development started on gc dev kits then and supposed transfer to rev is easy. then theortical rev has a lot of games, also if it as easy to port as reggie claims. then the have alot. also big N still has all its franchises to release on the dman consle.
 
Pellham said:
why release after E3 when there's no games?
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Retro is working on Prime 3 and im sure Mario is ready for launch this time. Thats all they need in the first 3 months since porting from NGC is childsplay most devs like EA can pull out a Multiplatform Needforspeed : NGC, PS2, PS3, Xbox360, REV, PSP, DS, GBA. Releasing a upgraded Revolution NFS most wanted with rev control alone will make Nintendo happy.Kojima is working on a game , and HAL can move kirby to the system. Zelda the latest big NGC game will be backwards compatible, a minor graphical upgrade and you have the Zelda fans on board. After the launch they can fill the holiday with Smash bros not to mention the virtual console wich will be filled with titles when the system launches. Downloading these games will be childs play, and cheap like the system itself.
 
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleazy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
 
Maybe i am living in a dream but i would love some gamecube games to utilize the revolution controls like for example imagine playing twin snakes using free aim via the revmote.
 
NintendosBooger said:
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleazy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
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I bet they lowered the Rev specs even more after seeing DS sales

"If a n64 gen handheld can make us so much money a GC divided by 2 gen console can make us even more"
 
NintendosBooger said:
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleezy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
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Nintendo spent a lot on R&D lately and that isnt the revmote alone. We will see a decent 1ghz CPU from IBM with a nice GPU from ATI with the latest shaders and modern technologies however not in the amounts the PS3 and Xbox360 have them. The Mosys ram will save them once more. The Gamecube architecture was ahead of its time , expanding and improving is enough for the Rev to reach Xbox360 levels in terms of graphics. You wont see much difference in Needforspeeds and Tony hawks. The exclusive 360 titles may look better. But Nintendo has its own bunch of talented developers like Retro wich will do something nice on the system. 3x NGC seems reasonable with some extra's. And pricing the system between 100-150 will give them a nice userbase. And the Sepcs are good enough for the games they are planning, Nintendo doesn't need to have 200 goomba's/metroids/moblins and 200/spacepirates/ganons/toads running around on the screen. 50 is enough and I think the system will hold its own in graphical terms.
 
NintendosBooger said:
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleazy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
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:lol Keep praying. The success the DS has seen only reinforces the choices they've made for the Rev, and Nintendo isn't about to throw away piles of money just because they can. I can still see them upping the specs, but only if developer feedback points out areas that can be noticeably improved for a reasonable price. And any increases will be of an incremental nature as opposed to a generational nature.
 
[Nintex] said:
Nintendo spent a lot on R&D lately and that isnt the revmote alone. We will see a decent 1ghz CPU from IBM with a nice GPU from ATI with the latest shaders and modern technologies however not in the amounts the PS3 and Xbox360 have them. The Mosys ram will save them once more. The Gamecube architecture was ahead of its time , expanding and improving is enough for the Rev to reach Xbox360 levels in terms of graphics. You wont see much difference in Needforspeeds and Tony hawks. The exclusive 360 titles may look better. But Nintendo has its own bunch of talented developers like Retro wich will do something nice on the system. 3x NGC seems reasonable with some extra's. And pricing the system between 100-150 will give them a nice userbase. And the Sepcs are good enough for the games they are planning, Nintendo doesn't need to have 200 goomba's/metroids/moblins and 200/spacepirates/ganons/toads running around on the screen. 50 is enough and I think the system will hold its own in graphical terms.
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Someone should break the news to him.. I don't think it will be even possible for multiplatform games to work on Rev. No matter how many workarounds you utilize, a 1GHz cpu with ~100+MB of ram just won't cut it compared to a multicore cpu and nextgen gpu with advanced shaders. Basically, you won't see your NFS games on GC, unless it's remade from the ground up.

I think the games will still look fantastic, but I definately don't see any porting. Actually, I hope to God they don't try to port any games because they'll look dredful. There will have to be something special in that GPU though for games to approach 360 quality. It will probably take art rather than brute force though.
 
pestul said:
Someone should break the news to him.. I don't think it will be even possible for multiplatform games to work on Rev. No matter how many workarounds you utilize, a 1GHz cpu with ~100+MB of ram just won't cut it compared to a multicore cpu and nextgen gpu with advanced shaders. Basically, you won't see your NFS games on GC, unless it's remade from the ground up.

I think the games will still look fantastic, but I definately don't see any porting. Actually, I hope to God they don't try to port any games because they'll look dredful. There will have to be something special in that GPU though for games to approach 360 quality. It will probably take art rather than brute force though.
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Juding by your logic PS2 doesn't get ports, well it does. Most multiplatform titles are made on that 200mhz system. And slightly improved for the NGC(485mzh) and XBOX(733mhz). Same will happen with Rev, 360 and PS3. If the Rev turns out to be succesfull that is.
 
pestul said:
Someone should break the news to him.. I don't think it will be even possible for multiplatform games to work on Rev. No matter how many workarounds you utilize, a 1GHz cpu with ~100+MB of ram just won't cut it compared to a multicore cpu and nextgen gpu with advanced shaders. Basically, you won't see your NFS games on GC, unless it's remade from the ground up.

I think the games will still look fantastic, but I definately don't see any porting. Actually, I hope to God they don't try to port any games because they'll look dredful. There will have to be something special in that GPU though for games to approach 360 quality. It will probably take art rather than brute force though.
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reggie said we will see ports, and it would be easy. i tend to beleive him than you ,casue he atleast knows what the machine is capable of. also no developer has said the ports will be impossible.
 
ThunderEmperor said:
reggie said we will see ports, and it would be easy. i tend to beleive him than you ,casue he atleast knows what the machine is capable of. also no developer has said the ports will be impossible.
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There is a very think and effective line between "Impossible" and "Cost Effective"
 
[Nintex] said:
Juding by your logic PS2 doesn't get ports, well it does. Most multiplatform titles are made on that 200mhz system. And slightly improved for the NGC(485mzh) and XBOX(733mhz). Same will happen with Rev, 360 and PS3. If the Rev turns out to be succesfull that is.
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PS2 has an advanced 333MHz cpu actually. Guys.. 360 has a tri-core 3.2GHz cpu. Dreamcast was a lot closer to PS2 than Rev will be to 360 and we saw how that turned out graphically (although it was interesting early on in PS2s life).
 
NintendosBooger said:
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleazy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
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I'd have to agree with the other poster above. The DS has proved they don't need to do any such thing. The power of the console is obviously not their primary or even secondary concern.

You'd also have to be full of shit to believe Nintex. Talk about a world of delusion and dissapointment :(
 
pestul said:
PS2 has an advanced 333MHz cpu actually. Guys.. 360 has a tri-core 3.2GHz cpu. Dreamcast was a lot closer to PS2 than Rev will be to 360 and we saw how that turned out graphically (although it was interesting early on in PS2s life).
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Xbox360 is expensive to develop for , do you think that EA wants to make less profit on there seasonal shovelware? Heck they even release 3D titles on the GBA they dont care how it runs or how its looks they just want to have it on the shelves. And if the DS in any indication the Revolution will sell so EA will have software on it. Ports from Xbox360 and PS3 games, They arent going to use the systems full power. I can see the PS2 selling great for another 2 years. They can port and improve those versions , and If Nintendo is smart they set up a developing studio in europe and the US to improve third party ports and aid in development. The porting will not stop , more games will become multiplatform to get enough profit for the increasing dev costs. And we still know nothing about the Revolution GPU. The NGC is very efficient Rev will be to. I know that the REV wont surpass the PS3 or 360 in graphics. But im sure it will have some eye candy.
 
[Nintex] said:
Juding by your logic PS2 doesn't get ports, well it does. Most multiplatform titles are made on that 200mhz system. And slightly improved for the NGC(485mzh) and XBOX(733mhz). Same will happen with Rev, 360 and PS3. If the Rev turns out to be succesfull that is.
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All 3 current generation systems are relatively similar in terms of performance. The Rev will not have comparable performance to the other systems, so it makes no sense to use the Rev as a baseline for development on the other two systems. What you're proposing is closer to developing on DS and porting to the PS2/Xbox/GCN than going PS2->GCN/Xbox.
 
[Nintex] said:
Xbox360 is expensive to develop for , do you think that EA wants to make less profit on there seasonal shovelware? Heck they even release 3D titles on the GBA they dont care how it runs or how its looks they just want to have it on the shelves. And if the DS in any indication the Revolution will sell so EA will have software on it. Ports from Xbox360 and PS3 games, They arent going to use the systems full power. I can see the PS2 selling great for another 2 years. They can port and improve those versions , and If Nintendo is smart they set up a developing studio in europe and the US to improve third party ports and aid in development. The porting will not stop , more games will become multiplatform to get enough profit for the increasing dev costs. And we still know nothing about the Revolution GPU. The NGC is very efficient Rev will be to. I know that the REV wont surpass the PS3 or 360 in graphics. But im sure it will have some eye candy.
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You're right about the ongoing PS2 market helping Rev development, and I would say that the PSP further strengthens your point. The issue is that none of those platforms will see (for example) MGS4 without effectively restarting development from scratch, meaning that it's unlikely to happen at all. And that's the issue here - new blockbuster games that use something significantly new that can't be easily replicated on the Rev hardware. Nobody is saying that the Rev won't get its share of ports & sports.
 
Read this on infendo.com (pretty reliable blog, imo)
Rev in may?
Since the Revolution was shown off this past May, there's been a lot of chatter about it's release. When? How much? Nintendo has given us very little to base our predictions off of.

Today, though, I came upon some exciting information. My mom runs the Customer Service department at the local Target. She know the local Nintendo representative (brings in new demos, sets up Nintendo products...an actual NOA employee) pretty well. Today, the rep came into the store, doing some last minute Christmas shopping. According to the rep, the Revolution will be released in May next year. She was described as saying this in a "real quiet" voice.

Now, I'm certainly not claiming this to be 100% true. The source is reliable, being an NOA employee, and has given some accurate tidbits of info in the past. However, I think it's worth considering. If Nintendo were to show off some of the Revolution features in early May, then follow up quickly with a release, while it was still being hyped, it could set up for a great launch.

Would May be a good move for Nintendo? Could we possibly see this?
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I think that the Revolution will be a moderate sucess all around the world. Then there is Japan. The Revolution has huge potential there. The software on the Revolution though may sell worse or better. I can not decide. It might sell worse because people would be distracted by the Virtual Console feature. I know I will just go out and buy all the games that I missed like Star Tropics, Earthbound, and many more. Then there is the Revmote which could make multiplatform games more attractive on the Revolution. Not a lot of people bought multiplatform games on the GCN. Even the good ones. Thank god the fan base was smart enough to stay away from reproduced crap like Madden and Need for Speed. I think I buy one each generation then stay away from the rest. The FPS genre is the genre that Nintendo needs to focus on in North America and Europe. At launch they need to have one to show case what the Revmote can do. In Japan they are fine with new genres, and their mascots. But if they want to be sucessful at all in America they need to appeal to the market, and luckily the Revmote is perfect for some of the genres that appeal to them.

Then the Revolution has good sleek looks that Nintendo seems to have forgotten about in the past. Unfortanately the look of the console is just as important as the games in America. The Gamecube didn't have the same flair as the other two consoles. Even though the Xbox can be used as a mini tank. The last thing that they have to do is appeal to girls. Like they did with the DS. I don't know how, but good luck to Nintendo.

Just my 2 cents on the situation.
 
HOLY SHIT WHAT A SCOOP said:
Rev in may?
Since the Revolution was shown off this past May, there's been a lot of chatter about it's release. When? How much? Nintendo has given us very little to base our predictions off of.

Today, though, I came upon some exciting information. My mom runs the Customer Service department at the local Target. She know the local Nintendo representative (brings in new demos, sets up Nintendo products...an actual NOA employee) pretty well. Today, the rep came into the store, doing some last minute Christmas shopping. According to the rep, the Revolution will be released in May next year. She was described as saying this in a "real quiet" voice.

Now, I'm certainly not claiming this to be 100% true. The source is reliable, being an NOA employee, and has given some accurate tidbits of info in the past. However, I think it's worth considering. If Nintendo were to show off some of the Revolution features in early May, then follow up quickly with a release, while it was still being hyped, it could set up for a great launch.

Would May be a good move for Nintendo? Could we possibly see this?
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BREAKING NEWS: Revolution to be Released in May

Source: Billy's Mom
 
We just have to wait till E3 when nintendo dumps everything they have on the show floor like the DS. Tech demo's , logo's , trailers, games and more. I hope the systems launches summer 2006 in japan and shortly after in EU, US. Then we can finally try out this new type of control.
 
Wasn't it also reported Zelda: TP was finished before last E3 too... ?

Yeaaaaaaaa. So much for those rumours.
 
John Harker said:
Wasn't it also reported Zelda: TP was finished before E3 too... ?

Yeaaaaaaaa.
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was it? i dont remember that...


Either way an apple esque YOU CAN TGET IT NOW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO launch wouldnt bother me at all.
 
sp0rsk said:
was it? i dont remember that...


Either way an apple esque YOU CAN TGET IT NOW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO launch wouldnt bother me at all.
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For all we know its already in the stores. But hey your entire city is under a Nintendo NDA now!!
 
OF COURSE IT'S FINISHED ALREADY!!

They just had to pick up the specifications for what the gamecube should've been and implemented that.
 
ronito said:
OF COURSE IT'S FINISHED ALREADY!!

They just had to pick up the specifications for what the gamecube should've been and implemented that.
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Assuming the IGN specs are real, you honestly think that 104 MB of 1T-SRAM-Q, a 300 MHz GPU, and a 1 GHz CPU should have been what the GC specs were in 2001?
Damn, if those are what the GC should have been, then what should the Ps2, Xbox, and DC have been? :P

I like how suddenly the GC is way too fucking weak for even this gen.
 
GaimeGuy said:
Assuming the IGN specs are real, you honestly think that 104 MB of 1T-SRAM-Q, a 300 MHz GPU, and a 1 GHz CPU should have been what the GC specs were in 2001?
Damn, if those are what the GC should have been, then what should the Ps2, Xbox, and DC have been? :P

I like how suddenly the GC is way too fucking weak for even this gen.
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88 MB
 
NintendosBooger said:
I hope -- no, I pray -- that Nintendo has chosen to upgrade the specs of the Revolution as a result of the DS's success. They're getting all that f'ing money from a cheap handheld and the re-re-releases of their ancient games that it would be a sleazy move on their part to skimp on the hardware aspect of their next console. DS must have exceeded their expectations, along with the software sales of their games, and that surplus money should go into the Revo.
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It's not about money. Nintendo is not afraid to invest in something it believes in.

It's about philosophy. With Revolution, Nintendo is saying: Look, we're so close to photorealism now -- graphics aren't the most important thing out there. Let's do something else than boosting horsepower, let's invent new ways to play.
 
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