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Denis Villeneuve's James Bond auditions have officially started

Sadly I didn't get a callback, but I think it will be Josh O'Connor this time. He ticks all the boxes.

English. Good actor. Scrubs up well, but not a male model type. Has acted with Daniel Craig (Wake Up Dead Man). Good chemistry with Zendaya (Challengers).

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Sadly I didn't get a callback, but I think it will be Josh O'Connor this time. He ticks all the boxes.

English. Good actor. Scrubs up well, but not a male model type. Has acted with Daniel Craig (Wake Up Dead Man). Good chemistry with Zendaya (Challengers).

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Why is a good chemistry with zendaya a plus?

Did they already announced her as the next bond girl?:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Why is a good chemistry with zendaya a plus?

Did they already announced her as the next bond girl?:messenger_tears_of_joy:
Sadly I didn't get a callback, but I think it will be Josh O'Connor this time. He ticks all the boxes.

English. Good actor. Scrubs up well, but not a male model type. Has acted with Daniel Craig (Wake Up Dead Man). Good chemistry with Zendaya (Challengers).

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calistan calistan , Villeneuve, is that you incognito? Sharing something early?

Eyeroll Ugh GIF
 
Cavill of gtfo. I don't care what age he is, he's ripped and can act up a storm.

And set this in the 1960s. Modern Bond with modern tech is boring as hell.
 

Maybe not Benedict Wong specifically, but you could sell me on a Hong Kong or even Indian James Bond, though the name itself starts to break down a bit with some of those ethnicities. Certainly more plausible than an afro-Caribbean James Bond as I just don't see the same background working, there are virtually ZERO afro-caribs (and only slightly more of other non-white ethnicities) as Naval Officers and that is, IMHO, one of the most fundamental qualities to keep for Bond.
 
Maybe not Benedict Wong specifically, but you could sell me on a Hong Kong or even Indian James Bond, though the name itself starts to break down a bit with some of those ethnicities. Certainly more plausible than an afro-Caribbean James Bond as I just don't see the same background working, there are virtually ZERO afro-caribs (and only slightly more of other non-white ethnicities) as Naval Officers and that is, IMHO, one of the most fundamental qualities to keep for Bond.

Why would a James Bond movie need any sort of realism in this area?
 
Why would a James Bond movie need any sort of realism in this area?
Why make James Bond movie if don't want James Bond to be in it?

I don't understand why folks are so willing to die on this hill. Either you like JAMES BOND as he is, or you actually DON'T LIKE James Bond and should just f off and go watch Twilight or whatever the hell it is you DO enjoy. Rather than corrupt something you don't like and debase it, ruining it for the fans, just go out and CREATE something NEW that meets all the checkboxes.....oh yeah, that shit never works....
 
Why make James Bond movie if don't want James Bond to be in it?

I don't understand why folks are so willing to die on this hill. Either you like JAMES BOND as he is, or you actually DON'T LIKE James Bond and should just f off and go watch Twilight or whatever the hell it is you DO enjoy. Rather than corrupt something you don't like and debase it, ruining it for the fans, just go out and CREATE something NEW that meets all the checkboxes.....oh yeah, that shit never works....
I was just pointing out that the amount of Naval Officers in reality who have a certain trait is a weird thing to pick and choose for realism when talking about a completely unrealistic fictional setting.

There's nothing stopping James Bond from being a black Naval Officer in a movie.

Not saying I want that, just thought pointing out the # of Naval Officers who are black as some litmus test for who can play Bond is strange lol
 
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I was just pointing out that the amount of Naval Officers in reality who have a certain trait is a weird thing to pick and choose for realism when talking about a completely unrealistic fictional setting.

There's nothing stopping James Bond from being a black Naval Officer in a movie.
Nothing stopping him from being a quadruple amputee, having trisomy 21, a dwarf, a helium filled balloon, or a rolling tire either.

The point, for those of us who actually give a shit about Bond, is that he has a certain background that informs SO MUCH of what he does, so draw from folks that could match that background. For a variety of reasons there are few to no black british senior naval officers, a core component to being Bond (as is being human, able bodied, tall, suave, etc) and there are HUNDREDS of men who do fit the background criteria, so why shove all them aside to reach for a unicorn....unless its the agenda you want to serve, not Bond and an audience.
 
Nothing stopping him from being a quadruple amputee, having trisomy 21, a dwarf, a helium filled balloon, or a rolling tire either.

The point, for those of us who actually give a shit about Bond, is that he has a certain background that informs SO MUCH of what he does, so draw from folks that could match that background. For a variety of reasons there are few to no black british senior naval officers, a core component to being Bond (as is being human, able bodied, tall, suave, etc) and there are HUNDREDS of men who do fit the background criteria, so why shove all them aside to reach for a unicorn....unless its the agenda you want to serve, not Bond and an audience.
And yet there are black officers in the Royal Navy. So you throwing out them being a quadruple amputee totally makes sense here. Same exact amount of realism.

There are very few non-white officers, that is true.. that goes for Asians as well, so quite odd you were totally Ok with that idea.
 
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And yet there are black officers in the Royal Navy. So you throwing out them being a quadruple amputee totally makes sense here. Same exact amount of realism.

There are very few non-white officers, that is true.. that goes for Asians as well, so quite odd you were totally Ok with that idea.
It's been a while since i threw out the data, its on one if these bond threads I'm sure, but of the 2.5-3% non white royal navy officers, 2/3s or more were indian/Asian.

Despite what the BBC would have you think, blacks in England are a very small fraction, outnumbered 3-4:1 by asians. I've gone over my rationale before, but the BLUF is that I think if you MUST go non white, you can get a better agent from Asian origins to do Bond things, mix in the circles Bond operates in, and honor the British legacy better from Hong kong or India than the caribbean.

It's just statistics, really
 
It's been a while since i threw out the data, its on one if these bond threads I'm sure, but of the 2.5-3% non white royal navy officers, 2/3s or more were indian/Asian.

Despite what the BBC would have you think, blacks in England are a very small fraction, outnumbered 3-4:1 by asians. I've gone over my rationale before, but the BLUF is that I think if you MUST go non white, you can get a better agent from Asian origins to do Bond things, mix in the circles Bond operates in, and honor the British legacy better from Hong kong or India than the caribbean.

It's just statistics, really
You are exaggerating these statistics. It's more like 2.5:1 Asians:Afro-Carribean. If you are going to throw around "It's just statistics, rally" you should be accurate at least lol

And in the end.. there are black Royal Navy officers.. So why would you not be able to suspend your disbelief for a Bond movie?
 
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You are exaggerating these statistics. It's more like 2.5:1 Asians:Afro-Carribean. If you are going to throw around "It's just statistics, rally" you should be accurate at least lol

And in the end.. there are black Royal Navy officers.. So why would you not be able to suspend your disbelief for a Bond movie?
Go make one then, see how it does. I suspect it will struggle, MIGHTILY, because outside of a tiny handful of folks that just want to see Bond burn, no one sees Bond in that way and it won't feel authentic.
 
No fucking way that's real.

This is the same energy and I bet one of them wrote it.


Are they still doing this? It feels sooooo 2020, especially since almost every "this land..." statement falls flat because the tribe they know about was just the LAST tribe that took it before civilization came. Same with the "I'm a woman with brown hair, asian features, and a red shirt" stuff, who was that EVER for?
 
You are exaggerating these statistics. It's more like 2.5:1 Asians:Afro-Carribean. If you are going to throw around "It's just statistics, rally" you should be accurate at least lol

And in the end.. there are black Royal Navy officers.. So why would you not be able to suspend your disbelief for a Bond movie?
Because Bond is British, not African-British.
 
Are they still doing this? It feels sooooo 2020, especially since almost every "this land..." statement falls flat because the tribe they know about was just the LAST tribe that took it before civilization came. Same with the "I'm a woman with brown hair, asian features, and a red shirt" stuff, who was that EVER for?
No they aren't thank god, but that passage put this in my brain lol.

You son of a bitch
I refuse to believe he doesn't regret it. Any woman who transitions shows outward signs and I just believe she was caught in the hype. I just don't believe this happened naturally shitty as that sounds.
 
Because Bond is British, not African-British.

Bond is actually Scottish/Swiss

The movies changed his ocountry of origin from the very beginning lol

Edit: this is partially incorrect. He is described as being Scottish in the books but this was not a part of the character from day 1, that was added into the books by Ian supposedly after Connerys performance.
 
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Go make one then, see how it does. I suspect it will struggle, MIGHTILY, because outside of a tiny handful of folks that just want to see Bond burn, no one sees Bond in that way and it won't feel authentic.
Like I said it's not what I want, I was just remarking on your logic about Asian vs Afro Caribbean.

First and foremost I just want it to be someone who fits like you say, but I'd take someone who can act the part and have the general traits of being suave and pull off the Bond-ness over the color of their skin.

Personally hope it's just a white dude but I don't really like most of the suggestions.
 
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Sadly I didn't get a callback, but I think it will be Josh O'Connor this time. He ticks all the boxes.

English. Good actor. Scrubs up well, but not a male model type. Has acted with Daniel Craig (Wake Up Dead Man). Good chemistry with Zendaya (Challengers).

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He looks kind of like the model in the new game. So he's perfect/horrible.
 
He looks kind of like the model in the new game. So he's perfect/horrible.
I genuinely think he'd be a fantastic Bond. He's got everything you could want for the job, and he's not hugely well known for other roles. Anyone suggesting actors who are already pretty famous is probably well off the mark.

Whether the new movies are worthy of such a high quality actor is another question entirely.
 
I'd rather not lol.

But I think I've got some faith in Denis? I just can't think of any modern actors off the top of my head who're either British, Irish or Australian who could pull it off. So they should probably go with someone pretty much unknown, who's hopefully much more Sean Connery and less Tom Holland lol

e: oh, apart from Henry Cavill. He'd make a good James Bond imo.




 
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