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Denuvo could be cutting your Devil May Cry 5 frame-rate by 25%
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mcz117chief
Member
So, if it was already cracked, is the cracked version running better as well? It doesn't have to be just Denuvo.
FearlessBelgian
Member
No because denuvo is still there... Its just a bypass...
mcz117chief
Member
I see
CyberPanda
Banned
Denuvo is such hot garbage.
Zambatoh
Member
Why don't you actually try reading the steam page linked in the OP?
Hell why not follow the guide yourself and try it? You'll get a more definitive answer that way.
Edit:Eurogamer also ran their own test on it.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-devil-may-cry-5-pc-denuvo-protection-tested
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KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Maybe you should click in the link provided by PCGames? And MAYBE there is a screenshot of the exact same scene with and without Denuvo showing a 25% difference in term of performance, you know?
Oh, and it's not hard to make a video comparing this, but the game has just been out for less than a day. Give some time ffs.
But hey, if you can't click on a link here it is :
With Denuvo // Without Denuvo (just in case, FPS are in the top left corner if you can't find it)
A freaking screenshot? LMAO How do you know he didn't change resolution or some settings?
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Stuart360
Member
Because I don't care about DCM. Not my type of game. So, in this case, I want to see an actual benchmark instead of someone saying it and then showing it in screenshots. For all we know he could've run the game on different spec PCs to make those screenshots. People are so gullible, it's actually incredible.
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Hey Denuvo
Diddy X
Member
2 different screenshots. In one GPU usage is 86%. The other (completely different) with better framerate it's basically maxed usage. Wonders why FPS is better. Peak dumbness of people.
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Stuart360
Member
There are multiple vids on that link to be afir, plus in the game forums there are other vids from people. Even Digital Foundry said there is a difference, although it wasn't a huge difference.2 different screenshots. In one GPU usage is 86%. The other (completely different) with better framerate it's basically maxed usage. Wonders why FPS is better. Peak dumbness of people.
There have been other games that have had Denuvo removed then got better performence, 'Rime' was one of the bigger differences where some people were getting 30fps difference at times.
The thing is, even Denuvo said themselves years ago that there IS adifference, but its very slight. Now if the company itself is saying there is a difference, the company that is trying to sell its product, then there is a difference.
Fuz
Banned
Gameplay video with Denuvo and then different gameplay video without isn't a proof. Several benchmarks with and without is proof.
You just talk but don't link to anything. The burden of proof is on you, sir. Sound like a typical conspiracy theorist.
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Stuart360
Member
Oh jesus, forget it.
If pictorial, video, and verbal proof isnt enough for you, then how the hell are people supposed to prove it?>
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Like you test computer hardware!!?? Youtube is full with proper benchmarks of video cards but not single one of you can link me to a proper benchmark of games with denuvo or without?
Stuart360
Member
There are loads of benchmarks, but they are always 'fake' or never good enough for you guys.
Why defend such an anticonsumer thing anyway?, it always blows my mind.
Stuart360
Member
It doesn't combat piracy though. Pirates just wait fro the games to be cracked, and if they are not cracked, they just dont get them or wait until they are $5 in the bargain bin.
The ONLY people that lose out with these shitty practices are the paying customers.
zeorhymer
Member
The issue is that there is a frame rate difference and there are video proofs of it. You claim that there isn't. The burden of proof is on you that there isn't any difference. Don't dismiss the argument by shifting the burden of proof. This just shows that you don't have any intention of actually doing any research and just making noise.
Flat earthers say the same thing.
Closer
Member
Why don't you finish it off by testing it yourself or finish it off by agreeing to disagree? You are never going to get your proof because you act just like flat earthers.
Stuart360
Member
You're the 'Flat Earther' here though, ignoring all the evidence and instead believing a multi million dollar company and what they tell you.
VectorVictor
Member
So wait...if Capcom accidentally leaked an unprotected .exe of the game into the wild, and it's readily available...why the hell is Denuvo still being used on this game?
Surely Capcom doesn't think that Denuvo is protecting the game any longer from piracy...right?
Surely Capcom doesn't think that Denuvo is protecting the game any longer from piracy...right?
Diddy X
Member
Maybe Denuvo members just get to convince companies with actual data showing how some games have effectively made bigger profits by adding Denuvo, what is more, I think vg companies don't pay a penny to Denuvo if they fail to reach certain profit level, how do you exactly reject such an offer.
Lately Denuvo has caught real bad reputation but maybe it keeps working for some games and is worth the risk, idk.
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The Mad Draklor
Member
I feel that Denuvo encourages more piracy, especially when there is a performance penalty and the games will eventually be cracked anyways.
zeorhymer
Member
At least one of them actually tries and built a rocket to prove the flat earth.
Diddy X
Member
PhoenixTank
Member
You realise that if there is a CPU bottleneck when rendering, that is exactly the sort of result you would see, right? GPU usage not maxed out as the CPU can't keep up and the GPU has to wait.
i.e. if Denuvo is effectively wasting CPU cycles for verification, at full CPU load, you won't get as many frames as the GPU could if that wasn't a problem. Free up those CPU cycles and the GPU usage goes up, as well as frame rates.
As the Eurogamer article notes, there could be a difference between the builds other than Denuvo that is responsible for the change too. How much of a difference this build of the exe makes will vary between setups, and won't be a flat 20/25% across the board.
edit: a word.
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Fuz
Banned
It's always been stupid and it always will be.
And not only because it's a pointless, unwinnable war against something that doesn't really impact sales, while actually:
https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017...acy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/
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WaterAstro
Member
Denuvo giving us a cinematic experience.
Ozymandias013
Banned
Actually its not cracked but a exe file of DMC5 game without denuvo,I don't know how they find it, its the original exe file without any protection
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DynamiteCop!
Banned
This
I haven't seen any compelling evidence from people with systems within the scope of the requirements who have this problem.
I ran both at 2560x1440 max settings with a 2600k and Vega 64 and it produced identical results. All things being honest I think the only people who are experiencing problems with this are those who fall well below the minimum CPU requirement, and in that case who cares. You shouldn't be running a game in which its requirements exceed your hardware and expect things to work properly.
I haven't seen any compelling evidence from people with systems within the scope of the requirements who have this problem.
Dontero
Banned
Actually its not cracked but a exe file of DMC5 game without denuvo,I don't know how they find it, its the original exe file without any protection
It was from actual game release on steam. They forgot to add denuvo they took it down and replaced it with denuvo version but at this point people already grabbed exe.
The better question is if Capcom will upload now non denuvo version. I mean game is already out there is the wild and denuvo currently does nothing.
mcz117chief
Member
We wish it didn't but alas, it does way more than we want in all the wrong places.
Helios
Member
It's not a standard crack so it's not a bypass. It's the exe without Denuvo.
Some guy from 4chan still had access to a test version of DMC before Denuvo was inserted.
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