HyperCubed4
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How horrifying.
I'd be lying if I said that controller didn't look practical, albeit for a very specific type of game.
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Designing a controller while drunk - I present you the Avenger Reflex Controller XB1
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How horrifying.
I'd be lying if I said that controller didn't look practical, albeit for a very specific type of game.
Avenger people. I will now revise your marketing plan for free.
Scrap all of the nonsense about improving your performance.
Focus on the ergonomic aspect.
Send a few out to popular streams.
Work to increase MLG presence behind the scenes.
Let word of mouth do the rest.
Do as little as possible to market the thing. That is not a company strength.
Even with the same grip some will grasp the controller higher or lower. Some people will two finger the shoulder and trigger. Some people will wrap their fingers around the bottom while others rest the grips on the tips.
Mice figured it out.
The one problem with every controller grip is that it's all too common for controls to demand your thumb do more than one thing at once.
Scrap all of the nonsense about improving your performance.
Focus on the ergonomic aspect.
Send a few out to popular streams.
Work to increase MLG presence behind the scenes.
Let word of mouth do the rest.
Do as little as possible to market the thing. That is not a company strength.
That's because one controller can't really fit everybody properly.
Even with the same grip some will grasp the controller higher or lower. Some people will two finger the shoulder and trigger. Some people will wrap their fingers around the bottom while others rest the grips on the tips.
Mice figured it out.
The one problem with every controller grip is that it's all too common for controls to demand your thumb do more than one thing at once.
you did realize you can remove some of the paddles right? for example, i mainly use one paddle on the upper left backside. no problems in gripping the controller.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
You just got told bitch
welcome to the real internet check kotaku in 2 weeks when they are reviewing free PS3 Avengers we send them as well as G4 and all the other majors hell yeah , dont forget to check Amazon, gamestop.com, play n trade , Myers , Frys and a ton of other local stores coming your way you think you speak for billions son your just a kid you speak for yourself no one cares what you think thats why were growing and moving 20-50 thousand controllers a month. We do value our customers but sometimes we get children like you we just have to put you in the corner with your im stupid hat on. See you at CES , E3 , Pax East
.? Oh wait you have to ask mom and pa dukes your not an industry professional and you have no money on snap you just got told.
it's been years and years and this thing still hasn't shipped. And they still won't really confirm that it doesn't do motion tracking (it doesn't, but you can only get them to really admit that when you ask them in person at conventions).
Mr. Giggles
Member
Hate to be that guy OP...
But you're LTTP.
I remember watching this on G4 like almost 8 years ago when it was still in prototype.
Adam sessler I think was interviewing the guy who invented it.
Still looks like a mess all these years later
But you're LTTP.
I remember watching this on G4 like almost 8 years ago when it was still in prototype.
Adam sessler I think was interviewing the guy who invented it.
Still looks like a mess all these years later
Mr. Giggles
Member
Its a meme, long story short, a sales "rep" for the avenger said all that.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Cool that he invented it to help a disabled kid, but what is up with this article. It reads like the first draft of a grade schooler's essay homework.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
as;dg a'sedkg? really bro?
sounds amazing.
sounds amazing.
Blue Ninja
Member
I'm dying over here. :lol
Weltall Zero
Member
Wow... I thought GAF would have better memory than this, considering how the Paul Christoforo debacle went super-viral back then. I mean, as a general rule Penny Arcade tends to inadvertently slashdot other sites, not themselves.
Incredible.
That was a year after GAF first discussed the Avenger.
I just did a Google search search for a controller with rear buttons an found this custom built masterpiece: the Keyball controller.
Put an analog stick on the left side and you'd have the perfect PC controller. Puts Valve's efforts to shame.
Tons of rear buttons.
Full keypad and trackball.
Put an analog stick on the left side and you'd have the perfect PC controller. Puts Valve's efforts to shame.
Orbis Tabula
Member
Oh, man. I forgot all about "I wwebsite as on the internet" Good times.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Wasn't this thing discussed as potentially actually inadvertently useful for disabled players?
The point of the Steam controller was to make a controller that was an okay substitute without putting an entire keyboard and something crazy like a trackball on it, though. This is just a silly comparison.
The point of the Steam controller was to make a controller that was an okay substitute without putting an entire keyboard and something crazy like a trackball on it, though. This is just a silly comparison.
So good... It has one of the greatest lines ever put into words: "Son Im 38 I wwebsite as on the internet when you were a sperm in your daddys balls and before it was the internet, thanks for the welcome to message wurd up"
Fucking wurd up.
FunkyDealer
Banned
But how are you supposed to claw with that thing?!
EvilKatarn
Member
Is this still Paul's gig?
I mean, the idea and design is great. I'm not MLG or disabled so I don't need it but it's good that this exists.
Unless it's still by Paul. Son I wwebsite on the internet
I mean, the idea and design is great. I'm not MLG or disabled so I don't need it but it's good that this exists.
Unless it's still by Paul. Son I wwebsite on the internet
Absolutely not.
Does anyone know a way to get 10% off one of these?
Weltall Zero
Member
Sure, but how many people read that three-page thread or knew about the controller before the whole Christoforo saga on pretty much every single gaming (and many non-gaming) site? I think I wasn't even on GAF back then.
If there's no such thing as bad publicity, the Avenger makers hit the jackpot with him for all the wrong reasons.
The Steam controller exists to solve the problem that controller proudly exhibits.
Coreda
Member
Looks like it was designed to be a more ergonomic way of using the face buttons while the thumbs are occupied with the analog sticks. For some small section of the market it might be what they've been looking for.
Are there legitimate criticisms of the product in practice (quality, functionality) or are all the responses here just mocking the bizarre looking design?
Are there legitimate criticisms of the product in practice (quality, functionality) or are all the responses here just mocking the bizarre looking design?
Come on, the part about the Steam controller wasn't serious. The keypad has limited usefulness, and should be removed. But I do think that rear buttons, or more triggers is a better solution than sticking levers all over the thing. I like the idea of a trackball too, the ability to spin the ball should give it more control and versatility and control than a touchpad.
Quality, cost, and the company's poor reputation.
GreatNumber
Unconfirmed Member
If the controller started and was designed that way that is a cool thing to hear. But seeing it being sold for "elite gamers" and at the price point? I mean I don't know how much it takes to build the thing but it's just a skin for the controller itself and it costs more than the controller? Also if it's true that a sales rep said that then what the hell happened to this. It makes me believe that this article isn't real, or the original inventor got shafted in some type of contract.
Dragon Puncher
Member
There's some good ideas there, but holy shit is it ugly..
CaviarMeths
Member
hitthelever.swf
They actually cited Wikipedia.
And in case you're wondering who David Kotkin is, he made the Avenger controller. There's even an old kickstarter he made in 2013.
He sounds like a lovely person who must have failed English class (it was painful to read his email responses).
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I lol'd
Poodlestrike
Banned
The ellipses in that engadget quote make me think that it originally read something like "it's not everyday [sic] that such and [sic] awkward looking gadget (is every bit as awkward to use. The sheer unwieldiness) blows us out of the water."
They actually cited Wikipedia.
And in case you're wondering who David Kotkin is, he made the Avenger controller. There's even an old kickstarter he made in 2013.
I'll admit that I was a bit defensive, but that post was dry enough for me to think you were actually serious! The physical trackball is great, but in practice it actually DOESN'T have more versatility than Valve's solution. Pushing the trackball in as a button is out for instance. Well you could probably make some kind of cradle mechanism that the ball would sit and could be depressed but that would expensive, prone to breaking/needing to be cleaned, having a physical ball that could get lost/eaten, and the action of pressing a ball into the controller to get a second function probably won't be very comfortable. I have to give the guy props though!
On topic though, the avenger isn't a bad idea. It's a great idea in fact! But the company proves you need good PR a and most importantly, you need to show people why it's a good idea. Most players don't get or actively resist changes outside of the norm for the most part.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
That looks 100% awful
Any links to some examples? The review excerpts above look pretty positive.
bobawesome
Member
"Son Im 38 I wwebsite as on the internet when you were a sperm in your daddys balls and before it was the internet, thanks for the welcome to message wurd up."
That takes me back.
That takes me back.