Oh come on. Something like that has not happened before with destiny, they are working on fixing it. Someone probably made a mistake.
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Destiny Rise of Iron - Server Meltdown
- Thread starter SumptuousLemur
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ethomaz
Banned
Everybody wants to play fresh content on Destiny.
Because it is launch... it deny playtime and schedule statistics.
Queue implies that servers are at capacity but that would mean majority of players are ingame...which is just not true.
I don't understand how you can not be prepared for this after 2 years and after knowing the pre order numbers. I guess they just think it's a launch day thing so not really necessary to go all aboard on servers.
I don't understand how you can not be prepared for this after 2 years and after knowing the pre order numbers. I guess they just think it's a launch day thing so not really necessary to go all aboard on servers.
Mixolydian
Member
My heart, it hurts (Clifford).
Bummer, man. I got up early for this.
To be an Iron Lord, you must first demonstrate Iron Patience.
Bummer, man. I got up early for this.
To be an Iron Lord, you must first demonstrate Iron Patience.
Noisepurge
Member
Lies. Constant "Contacting Destiny servers"
ah crap
Diprosalic
Banned
I'm european.
For simplicity sake:
Destiny uses 10 "servers" to handle its everyday player base.
Bungie know they need 15 "servers" to handle a DLC launch, but those additional 5 servers cost (pull a number out of thin air) $500,000.
3 days after a DLC launch Bungie know 10 servers would continue be enough to handle playload due to knowing that's the time it takes for interest to wane as the immediate "must play this at the same time as everyone else" feeling is over.
Why would Bungie pay money for more servers, and more maintainence costs for what would be 5 idle servers that are only used for 3 days every few years?
Why would Bungie fork over huge amounts of cash just so people on the Internet, who have already given their money to Bungie, be satisfied with no queue times?
If you have a problem with this then don't pre-order. Don't rush. Don't be manipulated into having something right now. Have control. Wait.
No business makes money by wasting it on resources that aren't needed in the long term, only for a couple of days once every few years. The player will get over their anger, they always do.
Destiny uses 10 "servers" to handle its everyday player base.
Bungie know they need 15 "servers" to handle a DLC launch, but those additional 5 servers cost (pull a number out of thin air) $500,000.
3 days after a DLC launch Bungie know 10 servers would continue be enough to handle playload due to knowing that's the time it takes for interest to wane as the immediate "must play this at the same time as everyone else" feeling is over.
Why would Bungie pay money for more servers, and more maintainence costs for what would be 5 idle servers that are only used for 3 days every few years?
Why would Bungie fork over huge amounts of cash just so people on the Internet, who have already given their money to Bungie, be satisfied with no queue times?
If you have a problem with this then don't pre-order. Don't rush. Don't be manipulated into having something right now. Have control. Wait.
No business makes money by wasting it on resources that aren't needed in the long term, only for a couple of days once every few years. The player will get over their anger, they always do.
That's not how it works.
Pjsprojects
Member
Why did I book the afternoon of work :-(
In a que in both X1 & PS4. UK dinner time.
In a que in both X1 & PS4. UK dinner time.
everyday math
Banned
Literally 30mins later it's fine....chill people.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
~Working as Intended
shanafan
Member
So true. Destiny has a huge crowd, so I always chuckle when I see threads asking if people still play it, or call it a bomb. Yeah, Destiny didn't come out of the gate strong, but it has turned into powerhouse.
No they can (and should) be renting extra servers to cover release day rushes.
It does not work like this.
You don't buy a bunch of expensive servers and install them in your office, you probably rent them from large server farms, like Azure or Amazon.
Bungie can simply spin up more of these third party servers running their server software for the time necessary, and only pay for the time they actually use.
Even you can log in with your LIVE ID and spin up a 24 core Azure server to use for whatever you want. Takes 15 minutes.You only pay for the time it is actually running.
...Why?
Why spend such a massive amount of cash and resources for issues that typically last only a few hours right at launch?
Seth Enosh
Member
There is now something called "Cloud hosting" where you can literally rent servers from Amazon, Microsoft, or other infrastructure providers for time periods as short as minutes, and pay only for what you use.
The days where you bought a server and put it in a data center, and that was the only way to scale up your operation, are over as of several years ago. I'm sure most game companies including Bungie use cloud hosting now and can scale their server count up and down automatically or by command of the ops team, this is very standard in the business world as well.
Whatever caused this queuing, I'd be surprised if it were as simple as "more servers". Things are usually more complex at this point.
P.S. good for bungie getting the issue under control, I logged in 30 minutes ago and had no issue loading into the Tower. Was surprised there was any issue at all given how smooth Day 1 and TTK launches were though.
Because their customers are trying to play their newly launched product? Seems like a no brainer.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
How do you know only 10% of players got up to play? And that is a lot of people considering Destiny.
I just don't see why I should be outraged.
I just don't see why I should be outraged.
Mass Appeal
Member
Must be another game you're thinking off. My friends and I played the game right at launch without any issues. Even to this day I think Destiny had the best launch server wise. ROI was the first time it had issues which is crazy because the game has only gotten more popular and we are in year 3.
Like someone said, the thirst is real.
It isn't a few hours. For a release the size of CoD/Destiny it can be a week plus. The reason you don't see it last a week is because they are already doing this.
And I think you are overestimating the costs (or underestimiating the cost of games being returned for not working + future lost sales).
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=129116507#post129116507
That's the first post after the game launched. On that page I can see 1 person playing and everyone else complaining about servers.
Edit: actually reading a bit more it looks like it didn't last as long as I remember, hmm, must have been the beta
It obviously is a few hours since that's all this issue really lasted for tonight. And yes, I get the whole cloud hosting thing. Please.
But it still takes time to get the servers configured as they want, cloud based or not. It's not just a switch that can be flipped on and off for a deployment the size of a global game launch. It's obvious they went and added some more power to their existing solutions but they're not going to go crazy with the allocated resources prior to seeing how much they're going to actually need and they don't know that until it actually gets released.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Pssh, I'm still waiting on Best Buy to give me my fucking code. There's a real queue.
just download more servers
BattleMonkey
Member
That's about how long it takes to complete the DLC
FrontalMonk
Banned
I definitely remember server problems during Alpha and Beta of Destiny...I want to get into Rise of Iron at some point, but have zero desire to jump in right now. Sucks for the people stuck in queue though. Hope y'all get in soon.
The Lamonster
Member
This is why I take off Wednesdays for game launches, not Tuesdays.
17 Seconds
Banned
it would have taken you 30 seconds of research to find out what was included in this dlc before buying it. and if you thought the point of the dlc was to play through the new story missions one time and expect gatification, then i don't know why you're playing this game. not to mention the main part of the dlc isn't even live yet.
Gold_Loot
Member
Now that's, a knee slapper!
BattleMonkey
Member
Touchy about joke
17 Seconds
Banned
well you already complained about false stuff in the other thread