Yeah because I meant any defending. Read my post it was clear which slurpers I meant
Nice try.
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Destiny's end game has gotten worse
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Yeah because I meant any defending. Read my post it was clear which slurpers I meant
Nice try.
They fuck up on a consistent basis, this is fact and not disputable. A lot of people give them gold stars every patch update because there are a few quality improvements, but they fuck up something every single patch guaranteed. Whether it was a total lack of foresight or understanding of their game (nerfing Mythoclast like 3 times unintentionally - once being unaware that blanket nerfs to fusion rifles affected it, claiming ignorance and not having ANY control over Xur's inventory for almost a whole year - until some japanese guy started posting what he was going to have on sale before he got to tower) or something clearly designed to prolong play by making something miserable to grind (weapon parts drop reduction) or constantly lying about improved drop rates.
The game must have been coded like absolute horseshit because things that would take less than a day to hotfix in most other games takes Bungie weeks/months to do. I mean, there was no fucking audio controls for like, 7 goddamn months. Also not being able to separate PVP/PVE balancing for almost a whole year.
Yes, Taken King was a massive improvement to the game. But they keep making really dumb design decisions on a regular basis that it really makes you question if they have their shit together or they're trying their hardest to make the game miserable enough to force microtransactions on everyone in the face of aggressive complaints. I totally believe that the increased raid drops was going to be a real money purchase option but they just got caught with their pants down with massive complaints before they could introduce it, they also never commented on all of the other stuff purported to be silver-purchasable like the alternative glimmer farming mats.
Longtime players know that Bungie has had a mantra with Destiny which is "that was a mistake - that was not intended - we did not intend to - we didn't intend our game to play like this". Most recently they've used that horseshit with the terrible Iron Banner drop rates and the terrible Nightfall rewards (remember when they patched out strange coins as rewards and said "never again!"...yeahhh). When they say "we never intended", after everything they've done, it really means "we completely intended this and don't want to fix it - but because you complained sooooooo much I guess we'll fix it eventually".
It makes me want to puke when the sheep see that mantra and say "oh they're listening to us guys they're listening! Thank Bungie for listening to us! What a great developer!". Hold them to task for fucking up, not fellate them for shitty housekeeping.
The game must have been coded like absolute horseshit because things that would take less than a day to hotfix in most other games takes Bungie weeks/months to do. I mean, there was no fucking audio controls for like, 7 goddamn months. Also not being able to separate PVP/PVE balancing for almost a whole year.
Yes, Taken King was a massive improvement to the game. But they keep making really dumb design decisions on a regular basis that it really makes you question if they have their shit together or they're trying their hardest to make the game miserable enough to force microtransactions on everyone in the face of aggressive complaints. I totally believe that the increased raid drops was going to be a real money purchase option but they just got caught with their pants down with massive complaints before they could introduce it, they also never commented on all of the other stuff purported to be silver-purchasable like the alternative glimmer farming mats.
Longtime players know that Bungie has had a mantra with Destiny which is "that was a mistake - that was not intended - we did not intend to - we didn't intend our game to play like this". Most recently they've used that horseshit with the terrible Iron Banner drop rates and the terrible Nightfall rewards (remember when they patched out strange coins as rewards and said "never again!"...yeahhh). When they say "we never intended", after everything they've done, it really means "we completely intended this and don't want to fix it - but because you complained sooooooo much I guess we'll fix it eventually".
It makes me want to puke when the sheep see that mantra and say "oh they're listening to us guys they're listening! Thank Bungie for listening to us! What a great developer!". Hold them to task for fucking up, not fellate them for shitty housekeeping.
thekiddfran
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah. It's a mess. The worst is when they balance for PvP but end up hurting PvE at the same time(I'm looking at the shotgun nerfs last year and this year, during HoW it was great they separately buffed/nerfed shotguns).
Can't forget the unstoppable terminator Sunbreakers ^_^
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
I think they improved it a lot with TTK, but I got bored after doing the raid a couple times and don't see myself coming back. The past couple weeks of not playing has made me realize that I enjoy gaming a lot more playing a bunch of shorter games than dumping hours into long, grindy ones.
Many gamers also think it didn't. So what? Could it be that there are different opinions?
And Zoba wanted to show us his?
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That's my biggest issue with the game. I've got everything I was interested in, and I got it so quickly that none of it feels special. Now there's really nothing for me to do anymore. If they had made VoG and CE worthwhile for year 2, I wouldn't be stuck in a rutt.
wesleyshark
Banned
Shotguns take down the "invincible" Sunbreakers. You just need to.... Adapt.
Twilight Gap
Member
Nothing I've posted in this thread is "wrong". How it affects the individual is a matter of preference, but anyone who is playing the game can observe it.
Unless people think I fantasize about getting 2 moldering shards from Oryx.
I think people are saying the exact opposite. Something along the lines of, "If you played a game for 40 hours and hate it, why keep playing it?"
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
What's crazy to me is that you guys hate the game so much but don't just move on like normal human beings would. Nobody's got a gun to your head, nobody's making you play it. "You guys are blinded"? What did I just read? Is it more likely that the masses of people who are enjoying the expansion are mentally deficient compared to your own illustrious self, or that you have a minority dissenting opinion that, while perfectly valid, holds no more worth than any other? So much pretense in posts like yours.
Could be a change in gear design as a reaction to Y1 Gjallarhorn/Fatebringer, especially since they sound more willing to nerf "OP" weapons really fast this time around.
You can get an imago loop with that same roles as fatebringer and even though I hate the gun you could get a hung jury which is a very good scout rifle.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Why did you quote me, the red pill signifies waking up and realizing something.
Haven't you watched The Matrix?
I don't really care either way since I tuned out of Destiny awhile ago, I just found it funny.
- Revert Nightfall to Y1 payouts/buffs
- Undo the weapon parts nerf
- Never allow mouldering shards to grant 2 shards as an Oryx reward or add armor drops across more raid bosses
- Delete pvp from the game (and IB and OP titan hammers go away with it)
- Make a strike playlist with all available strikes in it
- Make a raid vendor that keeps blueprints of all raid weapons/gear obtained from every raid in it that also offers reps and buffs for purchase (with destiny money, not real money)
- Raise glimmer cap, allow mats to stack to 1000 (or infinite) vs 200, raise marks cap to 400 or higher
- Do literally anything with wormspore
- If you keep pvp, implement 30 minute matchmaking timeouts for anyone who attempts to load into an IB playlist, increasing by 30 min each time they attempt to play it again
That's all for now. Thank you for your time.
- Undo the weapon parts nerf
- Never allow mouldering shards to grant 2 shards as an Oryx reward or add armor drops across more raid bosses
- Delete pvp from the game (and IB and OP titan hammers go away with it)
- Make a strike playlist with all available strikes in it
- Make a raid vendor that keeps blueprints of all raid weapons/gear obtained from every raid in it that also offers reps and buffs for purchase (with destiny money, not real money)
- Raise glimmer cap, allow mats to stack to 1000 (or infinite) vs 200, raise marks cap to 400 or higher
- Do literally anything with wormspore
- If you keep pvp, implement 30 minute matchmaking timeouts for anyone who attempts to load into an IB playlist, increasing by 30 min each time they attempt to play it again
That's all for now. Thank you for your time.
igordennis
Member
Zoba post that gif of yours shutting down a stormtrancer+sunbreaker in a row with 2 sniper shots and ace of spades. If you are good with a sniper its as reliable as a shotgun to shut down supers, even more actually.
That's not how opinions work. Zoba is one of the most experienced Destiny PvP players in the world. His opinion is shared by a significant amount of dedicated PvP players. Don't be so hasty to dismiss his opinion.
WTF is this shit?
So the one who makes the OP can't criticise the game? Stop being such a shill for a cooperate.
Bullshit. 2 point blank shots weren't enough in my situation before he turned around and one shot me.
wesleyshark
Banned
Not bullshit. Invective wrecks a Sunbreaker.
Yes. Let's bow down to his personal opinion.
Not unlike the days where a straight payout of shards or energy was not only common but most often the most prevalent result from running a raid? It took me 2-3 months to have two characters at the cap during year one VOG. With Kings Fall I have leveled past 300 and am 307+ with all characters after 3 weeks. I'm sorry but you are wrong when you say the quality of drops has decreased. You may not like the weapons or armor, that's up to you, but the quality of actually getting something you can use out of a drop has undeniably improved leagues beyond what year one offered. So much that people are commenting in this thread and others that they have everything they want are are checking out of the game.
Snipers are the way to go for them. Keeps you out of the one shot melee range.
All of the classes and supers need to be rethought and rebalanced soon. The new ones are too powerful. The new Warlock and Titan ones are just absolute easy mode. They make gunslinger look like a joke, and that used the be the most easy super to get kills with.
They're not invincible, it's just that your odds of survival when you're within 80 feet of them is much much lower than other supers.
Aw sorry, did I say something bad about your favourite GAF celebrity?
Hardly a Destiny defender either, just these inane topics really should stay in the OT.
What's this quest you're talking about? I assume I've not got around to it yet.
Did you bother with IB at all? I've been playing all week, the drop rates made me want to stab myself in the eyes but it was totally worth it for the pulse rifle and leather Titan pants.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Lol my friends and I bitch about this game all the time. Bungie makes really stupid decisions when it comes to pleasing the players, but in the end it's still a fun game and it's made me play with an online community again more so than any other title in years. That's why I keep at it despite hating it at times. Raids are fun end game content for me. Really, REALLY wish they'd update the old raids with new gear so the content gets some use again.
The rest is fine, but seriously, that's just ridiculous.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Or maybe because this constant complaining about a game you no longer like is so annoying. The destiny hate did make sense when the game launched. You don't like it now, cool beans. Accepted, but the majority of the people in this thread and practically the world disagrees. Accept that and keep it pushing. Tbh, it's getting quite overwhelming to see one person once a day make a thread about how much they are done with Destiny. If you are done, log off, sell your game, and play the many other games out their that fulfill the itch you need that Destiny stopped doing.
There is even an OT for Destiny in which disgruntled and fans alike can converse. It's like okay...we get it. What the next game you are going to be playing then if it's so bad
Zoba pls....it's bad but not as bad and Bungie will address some of the more important issues like, Nightfall rewards, sunbreaker superman and weapon parts. Yes once the quests are finished there isnt much but not like the vanilla had better PvE content.
But yes I am indeed disappointed at the PvP changes and dislike the death of handcanons tgrough range and accuracy nerf and the abundance of pulse rifles too (they always mess up your sniper aim big time due to burst). I am also annoyed by the stupid maps rotations.
But yes I am indeed disappointed at the PvP changes and dislike the death of handcanons tgrough range and accuracy nerf and the abundance of pulse rifles too (they always mess up your sniper aim big time due to burst). I am also annoyed by the stupid maps rotations.
That's not what I said. Just don't dismiss it. Consider it from that perspective.
If the goodies you get at the end of the ride significantly affect your ability to enjoy the game then don't play? I know tons of people who quit MMOs cause they don't see the point in pouring months into the game to increase a few numbers by 10, and Destiny Y2 probably isn't any different. Like the other poster said Destiny is basically a compressed MMO experience without the social aspects to support it when the gear isn't enough.
Well I'm a pretty ridiculous individual. I can't help it.
Collateral22
Member
PvP is an absolute mess right now. Worse state it's ever been in. PvE is good but they killed off Nightfalls and CoO is really stale after the first week of it. They could have expanded a bit more on CoO. I'll get my MP fix from H5 and BO3 but once FO4 comes out I think I'll have to shelve Destiny until they bring out the next batch of content.
Twilight Gap
Member
The loot drops have gone up but the quality of the drops has gone down; therefore, there is no reason to run King's Fall as much as there was Vault of Glass because nothing from King's Fall is worth getting.
The value of the weapons is a matter of opinion, but they are statistically inferior to most of the weapons elsewhere in the game, including Vault of Glass weapons.
Eh.. no the game changed, so can our opinions.
Also Destiny acts like an addiction, I can say I was addicted to the hunt for exotics. And someday you are free from it, because you get your stuff, then you realize the flaws.
Lmao.
Sure kid. The blinded statement was directed towards the same people who ignore any criticism of the game and say their learned phrases again and again. Enjoying the game is fine with me
So don't get offended.Also I stated how it works. And I think we can still say stuff about stuff that we enjoyed but changed, instead of silent moving on... Or not? Is that forbidden?
I never said I hate the game. I dislike more the community and Bungie's behaviour than the game.
Literally the shotgun I'm using.
ShinMaruku
Member
I was like that very clearly last year to me. It gave me bad wow flashbacks and I sold the damn game. I got back in because it has more beefy content and if they add some quests down the pipeline I won't get any issue. Perhaps I don't feel similar to you because I take breaks form this game and will never play it like how bungie intends because they played wow and should feel bad.
blue_phazon
Member
Trials is fun tho
Ok trials can stay.. but that's it!
PvP is definitely worse than it was, I'll agree with that. I used to like Trials, had like 15 flawless (nowhere near as much as you I know), but I'm not even feeling the need to do it when it comes back.
PvE on the other hand is infinitely better, and that's where the majority of the playerbase is.
wesleyshark
Banned
Hmm. I dunno man haha. I've gone about 50/50 in close quarters. I get wrecked as much I wreck them, but they aren't indestructible. They could be tuned down a bit, yes, but it's not as bad as people are saying.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Still enjoyable to play with friends :3
wesleyshark
Banned
That's really what it all comes down to. My clan has a friggin blast playing pvp. It's just fun!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA!
So us PlayStation gamers are a bunch of quitters, huh?! I don't have to put up with these insults, I'm quitting out of this thread!
igordennis
Member
In the end i think it comes down to this. You liked the VoG design of the loot drop having clearly better weapons than everything else in the game. Bungie didnt. I think going forward (if you continue playing) this will be a constant issue for you in pve because from everything that Bungie said they have changed their design in relation to this. Pvp is a different thing and something that if fixed would probably reignite your destiny love since i think you were always a pvp player first. Odds of that happening arent good though
Friends are just stepping stones to mediocre gear so Destiny is a bad experience is what I have gotten out of the thread.
Could chalk it up to lag, year 2 PvP for me has been noticeboard laggy. I want to say it must be my connection, but I tried at another place and it was the same. :/
And for people saying use a sniper, I can't snipe worth shit, lol.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Pulse rifles were always good. It's just that the plebs never gave them a chance. Strangers rifle has been a top pvp gun since day 1.