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[kamspy]

I think the person who leaked it did so because it's either outrageously good or horrendously bad. Either way, they did consumers a favor.

 

[Sub_Level]

I'm excited for the game, but I can wait.

 

[Fersis]

I hope that the dev find out who was it and call him out.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Honestly, the best thing Eidos would do is put the preview build on their website tommorow, with note "Things got leaked, damn it...everyone, enjoy!".

 

[Lostconfused]

Honestly, the best thing Eidos would do is put the preview build on their website tommorow, with note "Things got leaked, damn it...everyone, enjoy!".

Would never happen.

 

[revolverjgw]

How many of these preview builds do they send out? Would it be feasible to "watermark" each in some way? Something in the code to work out who the dick was that leaked it?

 

[DieH@rd]

Which demos are 10 hours long? Other than Witcher 1 demo which is supposedly pretty ong.

Darksiders demo was pretty epic.

 

[Lime]

Square-Enix cannot be pleased.

When hearing the news, Square-Enix probably wondered how someone could leak fax copies of the game.

 

[Ozzykamikaze]

I would want to play the preview build, at least for an hour or something. Not like I'm not getting the Augmented Edition anyways. Just wanna try it so bad!

 

[Data West]

When hearing the news, Square-Enix probably wondered how someone could leak fax copies of the game.

Grin probably leaked it

 

[BoobPhysics101]

When hearing the news, Square-Enix probably wondered how someone could leak fax copies of the game.

They were then sent pictures of Deus Ex: Invisible War, to which they replied "This is not Deus Ex."

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I'm sorry, but do you own stock in them? Why are you so emotionally invested in this?

This is the best possible thing that could have happened. If they made a great game, it will build more hype for the real release. If they made a bad game then justice will have been served.

I'm not emotionally invested at all, honestly. I just thought it was ridiculous that the guy claimed gamers make their own demos, as if they were entitled to this leak or something.

It's unfortunate, because it will certainly mean that the developer/publisher will be a lot more cautious with previewing future games.

 

[Vocaloid]

I'm sorry, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Are you actually saying that they deserve bad press if a leaked/stolen preview build that was NEVER intended to be released is 'bad?' Seriously, what kind of 'justice' are we talking about, exactly? Because it sound pretty ridiculous to me.

It's a whole third of the game; more than enough to see if the game's gunplay, stealth, and level design are good. There aren't going to be any major game design changes this far down the road. What is on the net now will be a fairshake for the game as a whole.

 

[Ferrio]

I think the person who leaked it did so because it's either outrageously good or horrendously bad. Either way, they did consumers a favor.

Good point. Going to bet it's the latter.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

Darksiders demo was pretty epic.

45 minutes if I remember correctly though, not 10 hours.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Good point. Going to bet it's the latter.

Every single preview is positively glowing. Every one.

 

[Ferrio]

Every single preview is positively glowing. Every one.

Even more reason to make me suspicious. If people can't find faults in games they preview, then it doesn't seem genuine.

 

[Data West]

Every single preview is positively glowing. Every one.

What published previews AREN'T glowing? I never saw a Brink preview that said 'This game's buggy as hell and won't work with most video cards'

 

[nexen]

When hearing the news, Square-Enix probably wondered how someone could leak fax copies of the game.

aaahahahahah

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Even more reason to make me suspicious.

Now that's just paranoia. Would you feel better if I said every preview is glowing except for two?

What published previews AREN'T glowing? I never saw a Brink preview that said 'This game's buggy as hell and won't work with most video cards'

Plenty of them for lots of games all the time?

 

[Drkirby]

Apparently the person who leaked this is from Romania. That's what people are saying on the Eidos forums anyways.

Wonder if they would be a large enough company to sue and actually get some money.

 

[revolverjgw]

Even more reason to make me suspicious. If people can't find faults in games they preview, then it doesn't seem genuine.

Take off your tinfoil crown, princess

 

[kamspy]

Every single preview is positively glowing. Every one.

Dragon Age 2 got a 94 in PC Gamer.

 

[Glix]

When hearing the news, Square-Enix probably wondered how someone could leak fax copies of the game.

This post made my day.

While I feel bad, especially if some part of the preview build is unfinished and taints what people think of the game...

hopefully it will just get even more people hyped.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Dragon Age 2 got a 94 in PC Gamer.

And a 79 overall and did not by any means have the same, positive preview coverage. What's the point about PC Gamer?

 

[Data West]

Plenty of them for lots of games all the time?

Show me one. I've never seen a negative preview.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Show me one. I've never seen a negative preview.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/28/hunted-the-demons-forge-preview/

Previews give games the benefit of the doubt through the logical acknowledgment that the game they're playing isn't finished yet so it could improve, which is why you don't see a lot of purely "negative" previews, but I trust you can easily make the distinction between a bad and a good preview, or a worrisome preview, if you actually read the full articles.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Yes, you are already dead.

Geez, thanks for not putting the JPG with the meme.

Spoiler

Lol

They'd never legally pursue anyone who downloaded it. Just those who leaked it.

Whew, I'm glad, I was getting nervous.

 

[kamspy]

And a 79 overall and did not by any means have the same, positive preview coverage. What's the point about PC Gamer?

It's an otherwise pretty respectable magazine. Proof that anyone likes piles of hundred dollar bills.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

It's an otherwise pretty respectable magazine. Proof that anyone likes piles of hundred dollar bills.

OK so you're insinuating that out of the literally hundreds of various, international, multi-language previews, every single one of them has been paid off by Square?

 

[kamspy]

Yeah. As we are not privy to the intricacies of this game's development, that's A) a mighty big assumption, and B) not a 'fair shake' in the slightest. A fair judge of the game is something that is intended to be treated as such; a highly polished vertical slice, not a 66% finished build that may have placeholder graphics, visuals, effects, may have multiple bugs, no difficulty balance, etc.

'Fair shake?' No, my friend, that's an unmitigated nightmare for a developer.

Am I mistaken in understanding that this is a finished preview build, meant to be played and evaluated by journalists?

OK so you're insinuating that out of the literally hundreds of various, international, multi-language previews, every single one of them has been paid off by Square?

Of course not. I'm just saying that even the most sterling reviewers/previewers need to pay the bills sometimes.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

It actually might have that effect. By all accounts it's pretty awesome, so this could actually help with building hype for the game. It's also just the PC build, so even if PC sales are hurt, console sales will be positively affected, if anything.

Well it really hurts the PC scene. Less developers will make PC games if things like these keep happening.
Wasn't the PC version of Crysis 2 the least selling version by a large margin after the leak?

 

[Jintor]

Even more reason to make me suspicious. If people can't find faults in games they preview, then it doesn't seem genuine.

Hey. Here's some faults for you: it's too awesome.

Anyway, I've actually had the preview build for a while (check AusGAF), and there are still a few placeholder bits and bobs here and there - notably, the subtitles are screwed up in certain areas, especially for tutorial thingies.

 

[alysonwheel]

I'm just saying that even the most sterling reviewers/previewers need to pay the bills sometimes.

RockPaperShotgun are pretty enthusiastic for it, and I trust them, at least, not to take bribes.

 

[kamspy]

Well it really hurts the PC scene. Less developers will make PC games if things like these keep happening.
Wasn't the PC version of Crysis 2 the least selling version by a large margin after the leak?

The PS3 or 360 demo could have been leaked just as easily.

 

[Vocaloid]

Yeah. As we are not privy to the intricacies of this game's development, that's A) a mighty big assumption, and B) not a 'fair shake' in the slightest. A fair judge of the game is something that is intended to be treated as such; a highly polished vertical slice, not a 66% finished build that may have placeholder graphics, visuals, effects, may have multiple bugs, no difficulty balance, etc.

'Fair shake?' No, my friend, that's an unmitigated nightmare for a developer.

None of the game's fundamental mechanics or major content is going to change a few months before going gold.

If it was good enough to show press; it's good enough to show everyone else.

 

[Lime]

Well it really hurts the PC scene. Less developers will make PC games even more if things like these keep happening.
Wasn't the PC version of Crysis 2 the least selling version by a large margin after the leak?

That may be attributed to other factors than the leak, such as, I don't know, "PRESS START TO BEGIN".

 

[kamspy]

I'd like to know what the NeoGAF admins think about discussing the preview build on the forum. All things considered.

 

[Vocaloid]

Well it really hurts the PC scene. Less developers will make PC games if things like these keep happening.
Wasn't the PC version of Crysis 2 the least selling version by a large margin after the leak?

That's because it wasn't a very good game; and even worse, a pale imitation of a more popular, better designed, balanced and polished game to boot.

 

[Clevinger]

None of the game's fundamental mechanics or major content is going to change a few months before going gold.

If it was good enough to show press; it's good enough to show everyone else.

It's an April build, from what I'm hearing. Around five months before going gold is not a few months of work. They also recently just added the highlight toggle, so who's to say what they would or wouldn't change in five months?

Also, the press gets very early, very bare bones preview builds as well. Does that mean those are good enough for us to play as well?

 

[Glix]

I'd like to know what the NeoGAF admins think about discussing the preview build on the forum. All things considered.

I personally would be against it, because it would encourage members to download it, which I don't think is very cool.

They don't pay me to make the big decisions, however.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Am I mistaken in understanding that this is a finished preview build, meant to be played and evaluated by journalists?.

You guys really have no clue if you think a journalist preview build is any indication of a final products quality. I've been on enough projects that were undergoing design changes in the final weeks to release. A preview build may include non-final art assets, temp vo, some unpolished scripting. This is all stuff that the journalists are told when they get the build.

The issue is that the internet at large doesn't understand stuff like that, and frankly doesn't care. They'll use this as a barometer of final quality when by no means is it.

 

[ghst]

first third huh, can i mail a cheque to eidos for the rest of the game?

 

[kamspy]

You guys really have no clue if you think a journalist preview build is any indication of a final products quality. I've been on enough projects that were undergoing design changes in the final weeks to release. A preview build may include non-final art assets, temp vo, some unpolished scripting. This is all stuff that the journalists are told when they get the build.

The issue is that the internet at large doesn't understand stuff like that, and frankly doesn't care. They'll use this as a barometer of final quality when by no means is it.

Unless, ya know, the developers made a post explaining the things they explained to the journalists about what's finished and what's unfinished.

 

[mikeGFG]

end users: too stupid to play a preview build without a PR rep telling you how 'awesome this part is going to be' when it's done

 

[nexen]

Show me one. I've never seen a negative preview.

Ars Technica did one for Brink iirc.
I was shocked when I saw it because it was such a rare animal.

 

[iamcenok]

I wonder if this had anything to do with the hack that took place a few weeks ago. The hackers claimed that they took the source code or whatever.

That really sucks tho.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Unless, ya know, the developers made a post explaining the things they explained to the journalists about what's finished and what's unfinished.

You post on GAF and you seriously mean this? Because the internets would be so understanding. I really hope this is a joke post.

 

[Corto]

Every single preview is positively glowing. Every one.

Have you read Dean Takahashi's Space Marine Preview? It was glowing

Spoiler

with bullshit

for sure.

 

[mxgt]

Well it really hurts the PC scene. Less developers will make PC games if things like these keep happening.
Wasn't the PC version of Crysis 2 the least selling version by a large margin after the leak?

In retail, sure.

DD sales aren't counted.