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Deus Ex: HR's PC Preview Build version has leaked

User33 said:
Why don't you look at the first replies in this topic? Before clarification everybody thought it was the whole game.

No idea why you're defending the laughably misleading topic title.
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Just drop it, you act like the OP leaked it.
 
BoobPhysics101 said:
So have mods confirmed whether it's ok to talk about the preview build if any of us get our hands on it?
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I discussed this with other mods and it is not okay.
 
I think this is one game that I will buy even if the leaked build sucks. Too hyped!

This really, really sucks for Eidos and Squeenix though. They've done a great job hyping the game up. It's heartbreaking to have so much marketing effort possibly go to waste.
 
Doesn't seem like a particularly devastating leak. Early build, partial game, really the people rushing to download it are just hurting the experience for themselves. Piracy is typically rampant when it is easier/better to do than buying the game. It isn't in this case.
 
Can't find any references to this on a couple of major torrent sites, so it's not very widespread (at least, not at the moment). Or Nintendo's been renting it's ninjas out to Squeenix.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
Can't find any references to this on a couple of major torrent sites, so it's not very widespread (at least, not at the moment). Or Nintendo's been renting it's ninjas out to Squeenix.
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It's been popping up on private sites, I believe. I am a member of one and it's been quite popular on there.
 
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Dance In My Blood said:
Doesn't seem like a particularly devastating leak. Early build, partial game, really the people rushing to download it are just hurting the experience for themselves. Piracy is typically rampant when it is easier/better to do than buying the game. It isn't in this case.
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To be honest it may do them some good in terms of positive word of mouth if it's good. If I were the devs, I would think of it as a very early extended demo.
 
kamspy said:
Unless, ya know, the developers made a post explaining the things they explained to the journalists about what's finished and what's unfinished.
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Most developers do. I've recieved lengthy documentation with preview builds detailing what exactly is unfishined, temporary, or completely non-functional.
 
Ceebs said:
To be honest it may do them some good in terms of positive word of mouth if it's good. If I were the devs, I would think of it as a very early extended demo.
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I heard it runs great with the settings maxed and FXAA and DX11, so it's already working.
 
Can't really see this having much of an impact of sales. If anything it's like the ultimate cock tease. Those who download this and get to the end will be hankering for more.
 
Maffis said:
Wouldn't be surprised if the whole game still leaks a month before release.
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The console versions will be out there long before the full PC version is. Pretty much every PC game has some form of release date check activation at this point.
 
Isn't Human Revolution a Steamworks game? If so that would kill any chance of people playing a leaked build of the full PC version early.
 
EatChildren said:
Isn't Human Revolution a Steamworks game? If so that would kill any chance of people playing a leaked build of the full PC version early.
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Hackers were able to bring down a mega corporation. I'm sure they can figure out a way to break a games street date bypassing Steam
 
Ceebs said:
The console versions will be out there long before the full PC version is. Pretty much every PC game has some form of release date check activation at this point.
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This is a steamworks game.. meaning even if the discs did leak out ahead of time, they are likely filled with encrypted steam files instead of actual usable files.
 
zoner said:
Hackers were able to bring down a mega corporation. I'm sure they can figure out a way to break a games street date bypassing Steam
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As far as I'm aware if a game is built for Steamworks the files are encrypted, and cannot be unlocked until launch. I recall a lot of games being leaked onto the net early, but completely unplayable due to encryption.
 
Thunderbear said:
All the sympathy in this thread... so where was that when Sony was hacked?

Hypocrites.
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Sony's being hacked was a result of their laughable security and it resulted in customer information being compromised and the outage of several services that are provided to paying customers.

This "leak" is one of the journalists who was allowed to play the game copying the contents of the game folder in his or her steam directory and either uploading it to the internet or trusting the wrong person who then in turn uploaded it to the internet.

There is sympathy for Eidos because they did everything they were supposed to, but someone violated an agreement and shared the unlocked game files with an unauthorized person.
 
I am selling my gaming PCs because of this terrible news. No longer shall I support the platform of criminals and thugs!

Good day!
 
Big Baby Buddha said:
Pretty sure this hasn't put anyone's CC info at risk.
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The numpad locks in Deus Ex are actually the pin numbers of certain members on the dev team.
 
FunkyPajamas said:
Right, because a 360 game has never been leaked and pirated before.
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It's not the same thing, and everyone knows it, but keep thinking every single publisher and developer in the world is an idiot and they're favouring development on consoles because they hate money and have no clue.
 
Vocaloid said:
It's a whole third of the game; more than enough to see if the game's gunplay, stealth, and level design are good. There aren't going to be any major game design changes this far down the road. What is on the net now will be a fairshake for the game as a whole.
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The developers have the full right to decide if you get a demo or not. You don't like not getting a demo, don't buy the game.

Have gamers really become such spoiled brats?
 
kamspy said:
The PS3 or 360 demo could have been leaked just as easily.
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But it didn't happen, and for a reason, and since the world isn't made of "what if" but of what actually happens, shit like this keeps hurting PC gaming, and I think we all agree that that's insanely annoying.
The best gaming platform being continously pushed into irrelevance by its idiotic userbase. So yeah, ME MAD.
 
Chiggs said:
It's really not, though.
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It is. In a sane world, the PC would be the leading platform that gets all games, which then get ported to what console can run them and in the form consoles can run them, instead of being the underused platform that gets a small slice of the gaming offer, that basically never is the leading platform except for that handful of exclusives that a handful of publishers still put on it.
 
VisanidethDM said:
But it didn't happen, and for a reason, and since the world isn't made of "what if" but of what actually happens, shit like this keeps hurting PC gaming, and I think we all agree that that's insanely annoying.
The best gaming platform being continously pushed into irrelevance by its idiotic userbase. So yeah, ME MAD.
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You realize this was likely leaked by a member of the press, right, given that they had access to it? It would hardly be the first time, either.

Even if it were a hack rather than a leak, it's hardly some condemnation of PC gaming as a whole. Do I need to refer you to recent and still on-going developments in the console world?
 
Thunderbear said:
All the sympathy in this thread... so where was that when Sony was hacked?

Hypocrites.
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I'm sure you've done a detailed comparison identifying the specific posters in this thread and their stated views and run that data against the posters in Sony threads to delineate specific avenues of hypocrisy rather than making a veiled and baseless "Gaf hive-mind" attack, right?
 
EatChildren said:
As far as I'm aware if a game is built for Steamworks the files are encrypted, and cannot be unlocked until launch. I recall a lot of games being leaked onto the net early, but completely unplayable due to encryption.
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There was this thing called the phoenix something that it was used to break the encryption of steam game files.

No idea how it worked or if it's still alive, but I remember it being quite a blow to the steam encryption. Meaning that it actually worked. I don't think it works today but I'll check it.
 
itxaka said:
There was this thing called the phoenix something that it was used to break the encryption of steam game files.

No idea how it worked or if it's still alive, but I remember it being quite a blow to the steam encryption. Meaning that it actually worked. I don't think it works today but I'll check it.
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I have used it for games on my laptop where I did not want to have Steam installed. It simply unpacks decrypted steam installs. I used it to install retail versions of Steamworks games without installing Steam. You still need to either activate the game through Steam or use a crack (Which can't be made until one of the crackers gets the decrypted and activated game)
 
VisanidethDM said:
It is. In a sane world, the PC would be the leading platform that gets all games, which then get ported to what console can run them and in the form consoles can run them, instead of being the underused platform that gets a small slice of the gaming offer, that basically never is the leading platform except for that handful of exclusives that a handful of publishers still put on it.
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I honestly think the nature of the platform itself (different hardware, different software, costlier price of entry) will pretty much relegate it to the status its currently in (which is what you mentioned in your post).

Honestly, I'm quite fine with that.

I love the stuff coming out of Eastern Europe; I love the occasional PC exclusive (especially all the indie hits, like Amnesia) and I really love getting all the visually superior console ports and multiplatform games.

I guess I don't understand the supposed dire state of pc gaming you're trying to project. The whole platform is quite lively and doing just fine.

Additionally, I want to mention that I was also commenting on your insinuation that the PC is the best gaming platform. Well, it's not. It's the best for me, which is why it gets the majority of my attention, but it's not the best for everyone. It's more expensive and requires more brainpower and effort than some people are willing to exert in order to play a game (and that's not a stealth troll, btw; if someone wants to just sit down on a couch and pop in a game and play, then that's their decision which is ultimately based on their individual needs).

There are obvious barriers to pc gaming; for those that look at them and say, "big deal," GREAT. For those that look at them and say, "fuck this," GREAT.

The PC is what it is, and I would suggest that some just need to come to grips with that. There's really little point in laying siege or flying the flag.
 
Zeliard said:
You realize this was likely leaked by a member of the press, right, given that they had access to it? It would hardly be the first time, either.

Even if it were a hack rather than a leak, it's hardly some condemnation of PC gaming as a whole. Do I need to refer you to recent and still on-going developments in the console world?
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The problem isn't who leaks, tho, it's who downloads. The ease of access to piracy on PC isn't even comparable to what you need to do on consoles.

Once again, without getting in a long discussion, the best argument is this: publishers favour consoles. If the PC environment was as healthy and profitable as some want to believe, they wouldn't. Publishers don't favour consoles because of fanboyism or stupidity. They're not stupid. They know better than 99.999% of the people here making "LOL THEY'RE ALL IDIOTS!" claims. They have the data. They make a living out of it. The moment we stop pretending we know better and claim that every time a publisher or developers who complains about piracy on PC they're just having the stupids is the moment we can actually approach the problem in a sane way.

If the PC platform wasn't problematic, it would be the lead platform. Publishers love money. They don't ignore a platform cause they're stupid. So, there must be problems, and this kind of shit is one.
 
VisanidethDM said:
If the PC platform wasn't problematic, it would be the lead platform. Publishers love money. They don't ignore a platform cause they're stupid. So, there must be problems, and this kind of shit is one.
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Publishers do not exactly ignore the platform though. The PC gets pretty much all the big name multi-platform western games. The exception being EA sports games and downloadable games (which I would wager have lots of hooks in the contracts to prevent a PC version) If you are a fan of Japanese games you need a console though.
 
FunkyPajamas said:
Right, because a 360 game has never been leaked and pirated before.
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The point being that most publishers do live in a fairy land in which piracy is only an issue on the PC. I mean, Epic stated outright that the reason Gears 2 won't be seen on the PC is because such gamers are all filthy pirates, yet the X360 exclusive leaked almost 3 weeks prior to its official release date.
 
JaseC said:
The point being that publishers do live in a fairy land in which piracy is only an issue on the PC. I mean, Epic stated outright that the reason Gears 2 won't be seen on the PC is because such gamers are all filthy pirates, yet the X360 exclusive leaked almost 3 weeks prior to its official release date.
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Epic's stance is governed heavily by Microsoft, which now finds itself in the odd position of fighting pc gaming. I think I could write a book about how Microsoft has misplayed the handling of the relationship between Xbox and GFW. Supposedly, a lot of this was due to factional warfare nonsense within the company. Pretty sad, if true.

Oh, well...just more for Valve.

Did I mention that Microsoft's played their hand very poorly?

Edit: Give me a port of Halo: Reach and all will be forgotten. ;)
 
VisanidethDM said:
They mistreat it, to the very least.
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If there was some sort of bizarro world where the PC was the lead platform for everything and games took full advantage of it's power then the whole industry would be aching. Not from lackluster PC sales, but from the increase in budget it would take to make games that take advantage of the latest PC hardware. There are already too many companies going broke making games for 5 year old hardware, just imagine if they were developing even more costly games. The crazy budgets we have now are the main reason we have such risk averse publishers pumping out shooter after shooter.
 
JaseC said:
The point being that most publishers do live in a fairy land in which piracy is only an issue on the PC. I mean, Epic stated outright that the reason Gears 2 won't be seen on the PC is because such gamers are all filthy pirates, yet the X360 exclusive leaked almost 3 weeks prior to its official release date.
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Yes, let's keep going with the "everyone in the business is an idiot and publishers hate money" trope.

Maybe, just maybe, Epic didn't give a shit about it leaking on x360 because piracy on consoles doesn't appear to hurt sales in the same way?
 
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