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Developers blast the celeb-laden Game Awards as 'an embarrassing indictment of a segment of the industry desperate for validation… with little respect
Pelta88
Member
Facts.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Giving all that time to Kojima and his Hollywood friends for what was a “nothing to see here” announcement is very disrespectful considering how they rushed the devs the show was celebrating.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
This you with the cod devs?
Actually no, im just repeating what your mom did to me last night.
poodaddy
Member
The nominations themselves were fucking jokes, and people still expect the show itself to be worth a shit?
I don't know why you guys watch this trash just to get upset that it's trash. Fake ass show, fake awards, fake nominations, just an excuse to get celebrities on stage and make Geoff another stack through advertising. Shit's cringe and embarrassing.
I don't know why you guys watch this trash just to get upset that it's trash. Fake ass show, fake awards, fake nominations, just an excuse to get celebrities on stage and make Geoff another stack through advertising. Shit's cringe and embarrassing.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Ironic, this is the same problem with Kojima games, too much screen time for celebs and no one else. And him and Geoff are BFFs.
InterMusketeer
Member
Just compare TGA's views to those of the D.I.C.E. awards. The latter gets like 2.6k views. Heck, if you go to their channel, they're happy to even hit a couple thousand views on their in-depth developer interviews. Most people don't care for that kind of content. TGA only gets that viewership from the game announcements. The awards are a fun little distraction to them.
I wish there were a way to recognize and celebrate the people who work tirelessly behind the scenes to make those games we like so much, and have the audience actually care about that. But there isn't and they don't.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Developers realise nobody cares about a bunch of nerds making games? It’s about trailers + celebrities. Be fucking grateful.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Here’s the thing. It’s an award show, but also a show to show off new games. Almost like winter e3. Those new games and ppl talking bout the new games is what got ppl watching it and what is bringing in the bills. U cut that all out. Just have ppl coming up and doing talking after the awards. Nobody be watching and it would go down. But next year. They need to up it from 30sec to least a minute. Other than that. First time I really did enjoy the show thru the whole thing.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is the sad truth that most at prepared to talk about.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Here "they" go again. One note snowflakes. Woke, woke, woke all the time. They know no other words.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
There are 31 categories at the game awards. Allow for 2 minutes to announce the categories, 1 minute for speech and that's only 90 minutes. That allows another 90 minutes for bad sketches and trailers.
You can save time by cutting bullshit categories like best esports team and best twitch streamer. But no way in hell should best score and best art direction be relegated to a blitz round. Much less major genre awards.
You can save time by cutting bullshit categories like best esports team and best twitch streamer. But no way in hell should best score and best art direction be relegated to a blitz round. Much less major genre awards.
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Chittagong
Gold Member
I think the speeches were the right length. Let’s be honest, nobody wants to listen hours upon hours of rambling about people they don’t know.
The awarded game clips could be a bit longer to celebrate the actual achievement, the game.
What they really need to lose is those endless mediocre trailers. I can’t count how many generic fantasy worlds and forgettable cartoon scifi robots I saw. It boggles the mind that there are big teams doing each one of them. And that there will be players who can muster the energy to grab the controller and play them. And for the love of god, no more Don’t Nod trailers or people
overcoming hardship doing their work.
That’s why that Chinese trailer felt so cool, it had actually creative, interesting characters.
The awarded game clips could be a bit longer to celebrate the actual achievement, the game.
What they really need to lose is those endless mediocre trailers. I can’t count how many generic fantasy worlds and forgettable cartoon scifi robots I saw. It boggles the mind that there are big teams doing each one of them. And that there will be players who can muster the energy to grab the controller and play them. And for the love of god, no more Don’t Nod trailers or people
overcoming hardship doing their work.
That’s why that Chinese trailer felt so cool, it had actually creative, interesting characters.
Crayon
Member
Seems like a good enough place to vent for a sec.
There is so much rampant negativity about these shows. If you've ever seen someone organize a fan meet or a tournament, they really care. In a selfless way. They want to spread the joy and bring people in. Show the world the pride and discipline of their hobby.
I think Jeff is sincere in trying to make this a meaningful thing for everyone. The sentiment of elevating games as as respectable art seems 100% genuine to me.
Importantly, I account for all the money and entities and politics that are going to get entwined with this endeavor. Even poison it to a degree. Welcome to the world.
There is so much rampant negativity about these shows. If you've ever seen someone organize a fan meet or a tournament, they really care. In a selfless way. They want to spread the joy and bring people in. Show the world the pride and discipline of their hobby.
I think Jeff is sincere in trying to make this a meaningful thing for everyone. The sentiment of elevating games as as respectable art seems 100% genuine to me.
Importantly, I account for all the money and entities and politics that are going to get entwined with this endeavor. Even poison it to a degree. Welcome to the world.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I use to watch the MTV Movie Awards in the late 90's/2000's for the parodies and performances not so much the awards.
Now we just get speeches rambling on about shit and disturbing acts on stage.
Games Awards would be the same.
Do you really want 10 mins of Neil Druckmann thanking Anita Sarkeesian.
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Windom Earle
Member
Sam Lake is a joke
SJRB
Gold Member
Windom Earle
Member
Imagine not being sick of this hack after he constantly inserted himself into Alan Woke 2. Dude thinks he's Kojima but he is just cringe, just like his writing. Also your mom jokes, amazing, I can see why you would like him.
Your mom is a joke.
balls of snow
Member
If you guys want a real awards show:
TGA just needs to balance it out. Have the awards except for goty be the first hour and a half for everyone to get their speech in. Let the world premiers be the rest of the show with each Goty nomination having a 2-3 minute spotlight with the orchestra. Geoff wont do this because ad revenue will be lopsided towards the second half of the show.
TGA just needs to balance it out. Have the awards except for goty be the first hour and a half for everyone to get their speech in. Let the world premiers be the rest of the show with each Goty nomination having a 2-3 minute spotlight with the orchestra. Geoff wont do this because ad revenue will be lopsided towards the second half of the show.
Bkdk
Member
No matter how much they hate it, TGA is still by far the best goty award for these devs if they want representation, what other goty awards even let them be present with camera shots with them sitting? They do have to satisfy the sponsors somehow. No major sites like IGN, gamespot even give them these chances. Their awards are all just online words listing out who wins what. If they really are so upset then they could fund their own game award show then.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
cripterion
Member
Triggering Game Awards
diffusionx
Gold Member
Pompous ass Christopher Judge ruined it for all the winners this year.
I said it last year and I’ll say it every year they need to decide if it’s an announcement show or an awards show. Can’t be both. I liked it as an announcement show but I understand why people who expect an award show don’t.
I said it last year and I’ll say it every year they need to decide if it’s an announcement show or an awards show. Can’t be both. I liked it as an announcement show but I understand why people who expect an award show don’t.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The show is not a typical awards show, since most of it is marketing new games to gamers with trailers. Even one of the awards is based on gamer votes.
So it's really one part trailer hype for gamers and one part awards for industry employees.
Instead of The Game Awards show, it's more like The Games & Awards show.
So it's really one part trailer hype for gamers and one part awards for industry employees.
Instead of The Game Awards show, it's more like The Games & Awards show.
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gaming_again
Member
Devs need to be put in their place. Too many websites suck them off already. Stfu, get back to work, and let the moneymakers do their stuff. Or you'll be doing database management for banking backend systems.
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Hypereides
Member
... why would you threaten them with a better paying job?
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Toons
Member
Isn't that the guy trying to convince the internet he can draw as long as a computer does 99% of the drawing for him?
semiconscious
Member
even given he's being sincere, why does this 'celebration' have to be in an award based, winner/loser competition format? why not simply give, say, the top 2 dozen most popular games via game critics &/or fans, or the top 2 dozen best-selling games of the year, a single 7 minute presentation each? i mean, how did the elevation/appreciation of 'respectable art' get reduced to a 'who's better than who' contest?...
genuine art itself doesn't need, & has never needed, competitions (award shows) to somehow get validated/elevated. it's completely the other way around - without the art already there to begin with, there are no award shows... & there's no real need to reduce a celebration to a competition...
Crayon
Member
My answer to why award show is pretty simple and I feel confident about it: it's just copying movies/Oscars. Monkey see, monkey do. Not in itself bad, but no doubt not an overly clever strat.
semiconscious
Member
of course they're just copying. but cultures that reduce art to competitions are in no way elevating, or making respectable, anything. they're actually just reducing human imagination & creativity to 'yeah, but who's best?'...
Success
Member
Let them cry.
The Game Awards = Winter E3.
E3 was about putting on a spectacle and being a meme generator. (Summer Games Fest is doing an alright job)
DICE is the E3 for gaming devs. It has no fanfare, just a focus on the great work that people do.
People want the game awards to be more like DICE instead of an E3.
Hardly anyone watches DICE talks and I can't think of a single meme that took the hivemind by storm.
The Game Awards = Winter E3.
E3 was about putting on a spectacle and being a meme generator. (Summer Games Fest is doing an alright job)
DICE is the E3 for gaming devs. It has no fanfare, just a focus on the great work that people do.
People want the game awards to be more like DICE instead of an E3.
Hardly anyone watches DICE talks and I can't think of a single meme that took the hivemind by storm.
DJ12
Member
Clues in the name, its not the game announcement show, just because MS see the need to use it as an advert because their games don't get nominated doesn't mean everyone should.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Which is totally fine, since there is competition within creatives. Just because someone doesn't win, means they are a loser. Most creatives know just being nominated for an award is a win.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
30 seconds is indeed a but steep. I think they should give em a minute or so but that’s it.
Why is everyone surprised? Don’t the people usually prepare acceptance speeches?
Why is everyone surprised? Don’t the people usually prepare acceptance speeches?
semiconscious
Member
well, maybe i just haven't spent as much time as you obviously have around these 'creatives' of whom you speak...
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
He probably also thinks they made a good game. Weak knees sweet baby inc incels