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Devstation Conference! March 1st-2nd 06' - Developers talk about the PS3 Development!
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BlueTsunami
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These are two different events. The February event seems to be something to break PS3 info to the public. This conference seems to be purely from the development standpoint.
Illuminati
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This event is the perfect stage for Kojima to speak in riddles and metaphores confusing not only the game community, but his fellow peers.
BlueTsunami
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element said:
This one (the one this thread is about) is being held in London
Specific Location said:
Not sure of a US one? The February one seems to be in Japan.
sonycowboy
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:lol
I read DEVASTATION!
I read DEVASTATION!
BlueTsunami
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sonycowboy said:
:lol
Yeah, once I posted the thread, I read the thread title back and though "AHhhh crap, I spelt the thread title Devastation! I'm going to get raped for this"
I soon realized I made it through ok
Illuminati
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That is what I read too, I thought man the Sony PR department is really going above and beyond on this one. It's almost like their own MEGATON.sonycowboy said:
BlueTsunami
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Looking at the speakers page, it seems to be a nicely rounded conference. Ranging from the Cell specifically to Audio, Art, Networking etc. Its going to be very interesting.
CountZeroInt
Banned
Microsoft basically had this meeting about 9 months earlier.
http://www.majornelson.com/2005/06/28/i-just-got-back-from-gamefest-2005
Maybe 9 to 12 months behind MS works out about right when guessing at the release of PS3 (in the US)...it's hard to imagine devs will have time to race to the finish line otherwise.
Basically developers have a resemblence of hardware and specs but not much else, the early days involves a lot of hand holding by the console manufacturer and historically Sony has been very bad at this. This meeting seems to be copying Microsoft's strategy, I can't remember Sony ever having a meeting like this before.
http://www.majornelson.com/2005/06/28/i-just-got-back-from-gamefest-2005
Maybe 9 to 12 months behind MS works out about right when guessing at the release of PS3 (in the US)...it's hard to imagine devs will have time to race to the finish line otherwise.
Basically developers have a resemblence of hardware and specs but not much else, the early days involves a lot of hand holding by the console manufacturer and historically Sony has been very bad at this. This meeting seems to be copying Microsoft's strategy, I can't remember Sony ever having a meeting like this before.
BlueTsunami
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CountZeroInt said:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/549/549171p1.html
Devstation for the PSP. Where developers get together and talked about PSP development
Doom_Bringer
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sonycowboy said:
yeah same here :lol
Kleegamefan
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CountZeroInt said:
Conclusive proof marijuana smoke adversely affects long term memory...
BlueTsunami
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Yamaha98 said:
Believe in Miracles!.Surprised this was overlooked.
Yep, that is whats most interesting to me (apart from some Cell and RSX stuff). It seems like the PS2 had some networking things going for it that never got off the ground. Its going to be extremely interesting to see what Sony has in store for us on this front.
BlueTsunami
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Wario64 said:
:lol
http://www.devstation.scee.com/agenda
Pity we won't hear a thing from this conference, most likely. There are some really interesting-looking talks there. Like this one:
According to the registration page, this one will show a FFT-based water simulation on multiple SPUs.
Also, the bits about Playstation Scenegraph - PSSG - are interesting too. Particularly that it's cross-platform. Seems it might be that Sony is offering a PS3-optimised engine that devs could also use to port to other platforms - but of course, it'd run best on PS3..How good it is, though, and how many devs would actually use it (and accept less than optimal versions on other platforms - something Sony would be happy about) will be interesting to see.
Man I read DEVESTATION and I could be spelling it wrong, but either way that was a bummer. Has the Feb thing even been officially announced? I wanna see a link damnit, cause I hope this wasn't it cause I want all of the goods not just some of the stuff they should have just done at CES. Still looks like Sony's network strategy is a lot stronger but I don't see why they were so coy about it especially if it was a red herring, it's not like they modest in many other respects. At least this will shed some light.
BlueTsunami
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teiresias said:
Yeah someone was surprised about that (I think at B3D) to. Thats kinda weird...I wonder how interactions between Cell<-->RSX that would have Audio being decoded by the GPU (if thats whats even happening).
Panajev2001a
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PSSG and the rumored ICE project are two things I am very interested about and on which I know almost nothing about :lol
.psycho_snake
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its sounds like everyone else read it that way too, myself included.sonycowboy said:
You know, I read the thread title as it was intended ... Dev-Statation.
I guess I'm just used to the xxx-Station naming convention, just like Apple with i-xxx.
I didn't even think of devastation for whatever reason. 'Cause of this thread though, I can't not* look at it without reading devastation now. THANKS GUYS!!!
* intentional double negative - don't yell
I guess I'm just used to the xxx-Station naming convention, just like Apple with i-xxx.
I didn't even think of devastation for whatever reason. 'Cause of this thread though, I can't not* look at it without reading devastation now. THANKS GUYS!!!
* intentional double negative - don't yell
Panajev2001a said:
PSSG might raise some interesting choices and questions for developers..
If it's a really great piece of tech, it might be very difficult to turn down. But they'd then be very possibly selling short performance on other platforms if their title was a multiplatform one. I'm sure Sony would be very happy of having a direct way of encouraging optimal games on their system, and sub-optimal ones on others, but it'd have to be a really really nice piece of work to be effective (i.e. to tempt devs to use it, even at the expense of other platforms). Apparently "cross-platform" here does not relate to PS2 and PSP..
Panajev2001a
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gofreak said:
It might also relate to those as well as PC
.Multi-platform does not necessarily mean Xbox 360
. Do not see an evil Sony where there is not one. this is not Sony Music/BMG
.Panajev2001a said:It might also relate to those as well as PC
Multi-platform does not necessarily mean Xbox 360
I didn't think so either, but someone "with ninjas prowling on the roof" said otherwise
Maybe he was just speculating, maybe not.It's not that Sony would have a X360-specific version or whatever, but that they'd provide code that just happens to compile on other platforms if the developer so desired...
It'd actually be a fairly clever strategy, again, if the technology is tempting enough to use (and PS3 is your lead platform anyway, I guess). It wouldn't necessarily be a product of "evil Sony" either..just a decent engine for the taking that coincidentally is specifically optimised for PS3
Panajev2001a
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gofreak said:I didn't think so either, but someone "with ninjas prowling on the roof" said otherwise
It's not that Sony would have a X360-specific version or whatever, but that they'd provide code that just happens to compile on other platforms if the developer so desired.
It'd actually be a fairly clever strategy, again, if the technology is tempting enough to use (and PS3 is your lead platform anyway, I guess).
Still, it does not mean that they would design something that is purposefully slow on the other platforms.
I see specific speed paths for PLAYSTATION 3, for nVIDIA NV5x GPU's and SSE/SSE2 extensions on PC (widely used to be ignored) and maybe speed paths specific for PSP and PlayStation 2.
I do not see speed paths for Xbox 360, but come on... you want Sony to spend money doing extensive optimization to adapt multi-platform/abstarcted technology to Xbox 360
? If it is also intended to be also used on Xbox 360 it might be extendible so that Xbox 360 developers can optimize it... and MS is an Xbox 360 developer .Panajev2001a said:
No, not saying that. But unlike middleware that produces optimised versions for every system - or generally aims to - this would just optimise for Sony/PS3. That's not to say it'd be a bad engine to use on other platforms, no.
Panajev2001a said:
Of course not!
I certainly think it's fair.Panajev2001a
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gofreak said:
Especially when tools (perhaps one of the most liked features of UE 3 technology) seem way more important nowadays than whatever graphics rendering technology or physics system might have been packed by default: after all, Havok will be provided in optimized libraries for every platform and many developers nowadays still work with their own graphics rendering solution.
Content cration and management, content exporting in a game engine friendly format, various forms of preview tools to see real-time version quickly of new shaders under development (like RenderMonkey or the various nVIDIA tools), a way of linking all basic building blocks of a modern game engine together (graphics, physics, audio, streaming, input handling, etc...), etc...
Guy LeDouche
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Despite all the hopes of the xbots, the Networking stuff sounds great and I'm really looking forward to hearing all the details.
Encouraging to see there will be discussion of hdd support at this meeting - that they'd do that at a conference prior to the release of the console suggests they intend for hdd support to be there from the beginning, which is most of what I ask.
Cross Media Bar too, so confirmation of the PSX/PSP style interface, which they've been saying they plan to use in future products all along.
Cross Media Bar too, so confirmation of the PSX/PSP style interface, which they've been saying they plan to use in future products all along.