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DF: Bayonetta's PC Port is Awesome - Even on Old PCs!
- Thread starter texhnolyze
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Better than the HD7770 they demonstrate in the video.........
Well? now i'm curious.
I have an i7 920 and an RX 480, which is a first-generation i7 mixed with a very recent video card.
The game runs very poorly for me. So poor, in fact, that I think something else is going on. Chapter I and the Alfheims ran smoothly but Chapter II was largely unplayable, with the framerate fequently going below 30.
I'm going to play with the settings.
EDIT: For comparison, I can run Doom 2016 on high settings with no problem and Overwatch on ultra at 75FPS (I have a CRT. Yes, really).
The game runs very poorly for me. So poor, in fact, that I think something else is going on. Chapter I and the Alfheims ran smoothly but Chapter II was largely unplayable, with the framerate fequently going below 30.
I'm going to play with the settings.
EDIT: For comparison, I can run Doom 2016 on high settings with no problem and Overwatch on ultra at 75FPS (I have a CRT. Yes, really).
Hmmm, that IS strange and it does seem like something is going on there.
Hey dark10x, while we're at it, what's your preferred method to downsample with a Nvidia GPU? I used DSR with 0% smoothness (because I like my image crisp) and it looks... weird. (in lego city undercover). Am I supposed to enable the smoothness?
I use a 25" 1440p monitor (Dell U2515H)
I was checking the Steam forums, and some users are claiming they corrected this problem by disconnecting from the internet. It's worth a shot.
Everytime I've used DSR -- it's been a while-- 24% was what I'd set it to.
Gedosato with bicubic scaling is probably the best option, only works with DX9 games though (which Bayonetta is)
http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?page_id=582
Mostly 60fps at 720p. There are some wild drops at random points for no discernible reason, however. After some fiddling I found the smoothest experience is to play in exclusive fullscreen with v-sync off: enabling v-sync or using borderless/windowed causes major drops far bellow 30fps and heavy stuttering.
Here are my settings:
Also, I get this glitch the "comic book" cutscenes:
It's not perfect, but I can play Bayonetta on the go now (for about two hours or so, unless there's a power outlet nearby). At least looks and runs better than the PS3 version, lol.
ShenmueDojo
Member
Who ported this game to PC? Was it Platinum Games themselves or another studio like with Valkyria Chronicles?
Wouldn't surprise me if Platinum had a hand. After the PS3 port was bad they would want to avoid that happening again.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
I saw it's "best" played with a controller, but I don't own a controller. How bad it is with mouse + keyboard? I played Dark Souls 3 with m+k and got along just fine, so hopefully Bayo is similar.
LucidMomentum
Member
The comic book cutscene issue is due to downsampling. If you play at your native resolution it'll disappear.
.:Wesker:.
Member
Little Stone is mentioned in the PC version credits that you can trigger from the main menu, but aren't mentioned anywhere else. They ported Valkyria Chronicles, and iirc they also ported Sonic Generations and Binary Domain under a different name.
Something else is happening on your machine. I've got a pentium g4560 and RX480 and can do 4k 60fps easy
GurgleBot20
Member
Do you have any controller from this or past generation?
I can try KB+M when I get home, but I've put at least 100 hours in the past 7 years with this game, so I can't really give an objective POV.
I like the 360 version better, it had that pop.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
The last console I bought was a Nintendo Wii. :}
that is not black crush.
It's not too bad in the short time I tried it.
The biggest issue is that it's really hard to pull off moves that require you to perform a circle with the thumbstick with WASD, but those are not all that important.
GurgleBot20
Member
It should be fun when it is and people start trying to run at 4K with 16x MSAA enabled.
Dictator93
Member
What else would it be do you think? Different HDR / MDR format due to xbox360 EsRAM?
Huge Succeeded
Banned
You mean in 2013?
It's a good thing PS4 happened so that performance and resolution could finally start to matter again!
Yo the state of discussion surrounding PC gaming until very recently was hysterically shameful, and for all the crybabies who whine about 'elitists', know that people like you made discussion 10x worse for PC gamers only 5 or 6 years ago than they make it for you now, lmao
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, but it's still fucking annoying.
Have the same issue. First section is smooth then craps to around 20-30fps for what seems no reason. Tried even putting it on low and its the same. Even at 4k it ran somewhat smooth on the first gameplay section.
Beerman462
Member
Check your temps. you are using laptops. So your cooling could be suspect. Also laptops will run in lower power modes when unplugged. You guys probably know this, but it's just my first thought.
deadscreensky
Member
Probably good advice, yes.Never trust anyone with a 2500k/GTX970 combo trying to tell you how flawless any game runs
Good advice, v-sync is definitely what I'll mess around with next. I tried outright disabling it last night, which I'm fine with in many games, and while it seemed to help quite a bit (makes sense) the tearing was unbelievably prominent and obnoxious.
The really strange thing I'm seeing now are performance hitches being apparently more common after moving the game to an SSD. I didn't do any sort of formal test so maybe it was just coincidence, but perhaps I'll try to figure out something more scientific later. (I know Bayonetta 360 actually had increased frame rate problems when you installed it on the hard drive, but I can't imagine a reasonably modern PC having similar bandwidth issues.) Anybody else seeing something like that?
(I'm complaining a lot because I'm picky and notice this sort of crap, but I don't want to give off the impression that this isn't a solid port. I've definitely recommended it to any of my friends who have asked.)
Beerman462
Member
Hmm this game is DirectX 9 huh. Might have to see if my 8800GT can run it.
At X360 settings
While possible, I think that at this point they understand that PC gamers won't happily accept 30fps.
Hopefully it wouldn't be too difficult to rework Vanquish for 60fps (ideally arbitrary), as it has slow motion and all.
To give people a reference, the 7770 similar to what they used for the main GPU core in the Xboxe One.
Barrel Cannon
Member
I'm hoping I can run it using my 5770 at 720p. I know I might as well replay it on my 360 or Wii U if that's the case but I'd like to be able to have it available on my computer as well
Sword Of Doom
Member
Played this last night. Of course I wish for more than 60fps but still awesome. I thought the ridiculously low load times were funny though. It's almost instant
Also Bayo 1 gameplay feels tighter and better than Bayo 2. I remember 2 being a lot easier but Bayo 1 just felt a lot tighter when I played last night. Maybe there's less input lag compared to the Wii U version.
I'm sure that engine won't have trouble supporting 60fps. It's the only 30fps Platinum game I've played so I'm sure they at some point were targeting 60fps with that game
Also Bayo 1 gameplay feels tighter and better than Bayo 2. I remember 2 being a lot easier but Bayo 1 just felt a lot tighter when I played last night. Maybe there's less input lag compared to the Wii U version.
I'm sure that engine won't have trouble supporting 60fps. It's the only 30fps Platinum game I've played so I'm sure they at some point were targeting 60fps with that game
GurgleBot20
Member
As someone who played the PS3 version at launch (and platinum'd it before the install patch came out :/), I'm still kind of blown away by these load times.
You could probably fit all load times in one playthrough of the PC version into a single load time of the PS3 version.
You could probably fit all load times in one playthrough of the PC version into a single load time of the PS3 version.
Yes I did plug the power in after the fact so it must be it.
It will run at like 30fps on lowest settings and lowest resolution. Sucks that the game doesn't have 800x450 or 960x540 support, otherwise it'd run way better on the gpd win. :/
2 has a crazy long input buffer. Like, with the handguns equipped, if you tap the punch button twice as fast as you can, then Bayonetta's will do two punches. In Bayo1, she'll only do one.
When I first played Bayo2, I discovered that I had developed a habit of hitting the trigger 3 times to go into Panther Within, since I kept turning into a Panther and then doing a buffered dodge. By contrast, triple tapping the trigger will turn you into a Panther without buffering a dodge in Bayo1.
The input buffer makes it really easy to accidentally hit a button and then have Bayonetta's respond a second later (when you no longer want to do that action).
Soldiussnaku
Member
Eh that concern is unfounded as sega could've easily done the 30fps lock with VC pc but they added 60fps with the pc version. There was no 360 version to base the port off of, so the work involved in getting vc to 60fps was probably a lot harder then bayo or vanquish could be, as both had dx9 codebases to start with.
That and almost all, (if not all), platinum pc ports have been 60fps.