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[Slayer-33]

X GON GIVE IT TO YA (lol)

 

[mindsale]

This machine is a miracle device. I'm actively looking back into playing two generations or games for passive upres and performance boosts, not to mention this gen's stable of mutliplatform games.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Great boost.The X is amazing.

 

[Dahaka]

can't watch it atm, can somebody summarize the video?

 

[BigTnaples]

Looks nice.


Really want to see some analysis on CoD WWII and Wolfenstein.

Gears 3 looks amazing. Really hoping they give Halo Reach and Red Dead this treatment:

 

[Social]

I'm actually upset that such a great capable console will only be used for multiplats and barely any exclusives .

 

[VargasPaPuM]

I see salt people detected already

 

[Jrs3000]

I'm actually upset that such a great capable console will only be used for multiplats and barely any exclusives .

What's your definition of exclusive?


BOT: I might have to jump back in on this game.

 

[valkyre]

Can DF please focus on something interesting?

What is it lately with this shit games choices for comparisons?

Sonic? Really?

Then you get Diablo 3? Really?

Like there is a ton of more interesting newly released games to focus the comparisons, especially when it comes to a new console, and what you wake up to is Sonic and Diablo 3. Like wow.

 

[GC_DALBEN]

Both look great, is a shame that que X here in Brazil will cost R$ 4000,00 (+/- U$ 1200), maybe in the future.

 

[X-Factor]

People are entitled to have different tastes.

Sonic Forces is a recently released game and that guy John at Digital Foundry was probably playing through it for fun or curiosity anyway.
He is probably one of the biggest Sonic fans in the gaming coverage industry.

Diablo 3 is also a good choice because they did comparisons to the last gen in the past, and because it uses a dynamic resolution that auto-scales based on the hardware's power.

Can DF please focus on something interesting?

What is it lately with this shit games choices for comparisons?

Sonic? Really?

Then you get Diablo 3? Really?

Like there is a ton of more interesting newly released games to focus the comparisons, especially when it comes to a new console, and what you wake up to is Sonic and Diablo 3. Like wow.

 

[Madeiras]

I see salt people detected already

I just went straight to the comment section.

 

[TheQuickBrownFox]

can't watch it atm, can somebody summarize the video?

Not sure what you're honestly expecting;

To put some hard figures to this, overlooking New Tristram right at the start with a new character, sees Xbox One X delivering 3840x2160 - the full 4K experience - while PS4 Pro kicks off at 2880x1620. In like-for-like situations, that's a 77 per cent increase in resolution in favour of the Microsoft console, before even touching a button. Things start to change as we head towards New Tristram's gates, and the resolution adapts on both sides.

Of course the intensity of effects-work will only ramp up further during Nephalem Rift missions with high-level players and it's likely Xbox One X can be pushed harder, increasing the chances of a dip below ultra HD resolution. But as a demonstration of where the two consoles stand next to each other, Microsoft's machine clearly uses 3840x2160 as a baseline. It's the most consistent number, and anything under that is a deviation from the norm. By comparison, PS4 Pro rarely even hits this top resolution number, and it's here the power divide between the two is most evident.

Then much of the same through the whole lot.

You can find the article here, perhaps OP will update it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ra-hd-xbox-one-x-ps4-pro-dynamic-res-showdown

 

[Dahaka]

Thanks TheQuickBrownFox

 

[Neo_Geo]

Yep! Both superior to the PC version due to giving a shallow dungeon crawler the appropriate control scheme.

 

[RootCause]

Really want to see Fallout 4, and Witcher 3.

 

[Opiepsn]

It seems Microsoft have a great machine on their hands.
I sort of wish Sony would have put more thought into not so much the power of the pro,But the implementation as far as backwards compatibility.
I love my ps4 pro, but XB1X stands as a testiment to how the extra power provided by a mid gen upgrade could be utilised.

 

[Panajev2001a]

This machine is a miracle device.

C'mon... it is a very nice machine, but it is not like it is punching 100x above its weight. I am all for being excited, but the hyperbole is a bit much... unless my sarcasm detector is broken .

 

[Neander]

I'm actually upset that such a great capable console will only be used for multiplats and barely any exclusives .

Considering the number multiplats far outnumber exclusives for either console then you'll still be using it alot.

 

[Neander]

C'mon... it is a very nice machine, but it is not like it is punching 100x above its weight. I am all for being excited, but the hyperbole is a bit much... unless my sarcasm detector is broken .

The wizardry it's pulling off with its backwards compatibility gains is a million times more than what its opposition is doing (non at all).

 

[Space_nut]

Xbox One X is a BEAST

Significant improvements over pro

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

What's your definition of exclusive?


BOT: I might have to jump back in on this game.

I’ve never understood “on topic” prefaces to segments of a reply. So you’re basically admitting that everything you wrote before that was off topic and against TOS.

Just post your post. Stop with the pretentious BOT crap

 

[Panajev2001a]

The wizardry it's pulling off with its backwards compatibility gains is a million times more than what its opposition is doing (non at all).

Boost mode did something and not trivial, but yeah I am glad a new machine just launched at a premium price is doing better than something launched last year at a much cheaper price . PS4 Pro does not run PS3 titles...

Seriously though, the machine is great, but I feel that was overhyping it a bit .

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Xbox One X is a BEAST

Significant improvements over pro

It came out a year later and costs 100 bucks more.

So yeah, it should do that every time

 

[Space_nut]

It came out a year later and costs 100 bucks more.

So yeah, it should do that every time

Thanks for your explanation lol

 

[JaffeLion]

Guess the new generation started with the X. its like night and day difference

 

[LoremIpsum]

Really want to see Fallout 4, and Witcher 3.

True!

Fallout at a greater resolution and a LOCKED fps would be awesome.
I stopped playing F4 at my Base PS4 because of the terrible framerate...

 

[Harp]

Are people really planning to rebuy a 3 year old game because it hits the 4k resolution more often? I own both the pro and I just got the X. I own Diablo on PlayStation, last year it was cool when the game got the patch. I ended up playing it for 3 months when I had not played it in about a year.

The game looked great on pro, and now a little better on the X.

Also it looks like he barely played the the game.

 

[JaffeLion]

Are people really planning to rebuy a 3 year old game because it hits the 4k resolution more often?

rebuy? what? I can even still play the games I bought during xbox 360 era and play it on the X. I dont have to buy anything.

 

[Nikana]

Guess my eyes weren't lying!

 

[Neander]

Boost mode did something and not trivial, but yeah I am glad a new machine just launched at a premium price is doing better than something launched last year at a much cheaper price . PS4 Pro does not run PS3 titles...

Seriously though, the machine is great, but I feel that was overhyping it a bit .

At some point you're going to start wondering if it was the opposite. You know, perhaps it was Sony who released a mid-gen upgrade a year too soon without really thinking things thru. Perhaps.

 

[shinnn]

It came out a year later and costs 100 bucks more.

So yeah, it should do that every time

Its not always the case though. Remember PS3 vs X360.

 

[Cheech]

I'm actually upset that such a great capable console will only be used for multiplats and barely any exclusives .

Exclusives are overrated unless you're on a Nintendo box. How many exclusives from Sony or MS are actually all that great compared to multiplatform games? I can count on one hand the number of amazing Sony or MS exclusives I've played this gen so far. Nintendo's Switch has been out less than a year and has already kicked both their asses combined.

At some point you're going to start wondering if it was the opposite. You know, perhaps it was Sony who released a mid-gen upgrade a year too soon without really thinking things thru. Perhaps.

Then there's that too. I don't think anyone can argue the PS4 Pro is half baked, at best. No UHD, thing is loud as shit (I'm aware it's not this way across the board, but everyone I know who owns one bitches about it), and it's underpowered compared to the new Xbox. The Xbox X feels like a next gen machine (I am seriously blown away with mine), and the PS4 Pro doesn't.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Xbox One X is a BEAST

Significant improvements over pro

Yeah! 1 year R&D benefits should do the trick.

 

[solis74]

Great stuff!

 

[Neander]

It came out a year later and costs 100 bucks more.

So yeah, it should do that every time

I can't even begin to imagine your disappointment when the PS3 came out.

 

[Warnen]

So baslicly Xbox one X is the place (on console) to get all 3rd party stuff? Sony had a good run.

 

[Harp]

rebuy? what? I can even still play the games I bought during xbox 360 era and play it on the X. I dont have to buy anything.

Lol ok, but you have also played those games on a normal Xbox one or a Xbox 360.

I didn't pay 500 additional dollars to play games from systems I already own.

 

[Bramble]

Guess the new generation started with the X. its like night and day difference

I hope you're just kidding. You really want the new generation to start with no exclusives, slightly bumped multiplatform games (which ultimately depends on the X sales and the effort from the developer, Origins and WW2 are hardly any different) and enhancing x year old games that most people already finished? Did you also forget all X games also need to run on the much weaker base and S consoles, which generally means graphics will be held back by inferior hardware. You can also thank MS for that. Besides, X needs to get insane sales (which are not gonna happen without any worthy exclusives) for devs to even put resources into enhancing their games (see PS4 Pro).

I think the graphical nitpicking is getting really getting out of hand. DF has to litterally freeze the image and zoom in to a level that no one experiences when just playing a game, just to see the tiniest bit of extra sharpness. And that's the trained eye. I'm betting I show this to my casual gamer friends, they're gonna look at me like I'm crazy, because they're not gonna see any difference at all.

The hyperbole is insane. I guess probably mainly Xbox players that took shit for years now seize every little opportunity to yell how magical the X is. Okay, it's cool you can play (really) old stuff if you're into that (which I can imagine, due to the lack of a bunch of proper system sellers). Speaking for myself, all PS3/X360 era games I was interested in, have nice remasters and I already finished them, so I don't have any desire whatsoever in playing old stuff. I don't even have time to finish my current backlog, let alone play older stuff.

People need to calm down. The X is a nice machine at a nice price point, but it's still running games at the same framerates because of the weak CPU and also uses checkerboard 4k/dynamic 4k rendering, but apart from slightly better looking multiplats, it really doesn't have anything special to offer, unless you want to play 360 games at 4k, of course.

Just my 2 cents.

Edit:

Exclusives are overrated unless you're on a Nintendo box. How many exclusives from Sony or MS are actually all that great compared to multiplatform games? I can count on one hand the number of amazing Sony or MS exclusives I've played this gen so far. Nintendo's Switch has been out less than a year and has already kicked both their asses combined.



Then there's that too. I don't think anyone can argue the PS4 Pro is half baked, at best. No UHD, thing is loud as shit (I'm aware it's not this way across the board, but everyone I know who owns one bitches about it), and it's underpowered compared to the new Xbox. The Xbox X feels like a next gen machine (I am seriously blown away with mine), and the PS4 Pro doesn't.

Pro is just as UHD as X. They both do checkerboard/dynamic in most games.

And for the exclusives, learn how to count or stop being a fanboy.

The Last of Us
4 Uncharted games + 1 expansion (I'll just put these 5 on 1 line, otherwise it gets even more embarrassing)
Heavy Rain
Beyond Two Souls
NioH (out on PC now)
Bloodborne (this alone should be enough)
Horizon Zero Dawn + expansion
Until Dawn
Gravity Rush
Ratchet and Clank
Yakuza 0
The Last Guardian
God of War 3
VR with tons of awesome content

And coming up:
Days Gone
God of War 4
Spider-Man
Detroit
Shadow of the Colossus
The Last of Us 2
The samurai game from Sucker Punch

Probably missing some titles somewhere, but I think you get the point.

 

[Gitaroo]

I can't even begin to imagine your disappointment when the PS3 came out.

Thats crippled 7900GT that what RSX was, was definitely a big joke. But games later makes up for what it was in the end.

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

Not sure what you're honestly expecting;





Then much of the same through the whole lot.

You can find the article here, perhaps OP will update it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ra-hd-xbox-one-x-ps4-pro-dynamic-res-showdown

Cheers for that, the X really is flexing its muscles in the multiplats as expected. Good to see it living up to the early promises and expectations.

 

[PuppetMaster]

I played Diablo3 exactly 3 graphics cards ago!

GTX560
GTX770
GTX1070

 

[kuYuri]

I’d be really curious to see performance for four player high end rifting. I play this on PC consistently on the higher end level and when you are in a party of players with high end gear and such, the game can get insane with all kinds of particle effects and explosions and stuff. Even on my PC at highest settings (1080 Ti, i7 CPU, 1440p resolution) I can get crazy framerate dips in certain situations and maps.

I would love to see DF test something like this for console, but I know that it’s not feasible since it takes quite a bit of time to reach that point for the average player.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

So baslicly Xbox one X is the place (on console) to get all 3rd party stuff? Sony had a good run.

Pretty much. I've decided to delay my PS4 Pro purchase until there's a revision that runs cool & silent and grab an Xbox One X this year instead. The fact that the PS4 Pro runs 15 degrees C hotter than the Xbox One X under load, is noisy and performs less well in third party games isn't exactly a good selling point.

Back on topic: I'm looking forward to finally doing my first run through Diablo 3 on my Xbox One X. It looks fantastic in 4k. That said, I am surprised that Digital Foundry haven't focused more on newer titles this week for visual comparisons. I would presume that most people would be interested in how more recent titles fare.

 

[onQ123]

Ffs. Its a BUG. Stop Spinning, MicrosoftGaf.


All jokes aside nice update for Xbox One X which I wouldn't expect anything less than 4K when going from 1080P 60fps on Xbox One.

 

[ffvorax]

So baslicly Xbox one X is the place (on console) to get all 3rd party stuff? Sony had a good run.

I think that's the point.

XBX is mostly for Third Party, with a bit of better details, and the few first party MS has on its side...

On PS4PRO you can still have 4K, third party, first party, VR... it lacks a 4K bluray reader... well it's a console for GAMES, I actually prefer the VR to the 4K bluray thx.

I think VR is a huge lack on Xbox side for a gamer, and if it is really more powerful than a P4PRO, then it's even more a shame not to have the possibility to play VR games on it... maybe they will add it in the future?

GAMES makes the difference when I buy a system, and there is no contest actually.

For example I am not a huge fan of N games, BUT I always buy N console after a while because there are GAMES i'm interested in... they are never N games, but third party exclusives (phoenix wright, bravely default, resident evil....).... this is what sells a system in my hopinion, and I don't see anything appealing on MS side.

Play old games on 4K? I don't have time to replay old games, so who cares really about Diablo3? A game of 5 YEARS ago? Really? :\

 

[Snake29]

So baslicly Xbox one X is the place (on console) to get all 3rd party stuff? Sony had a good run.

With those minimal differences??....no. I don't see people with a Pro selling their Pro based on those comparison video's we've seen the last days.

 

[DonkeyKong]

Pro is just as UHD as X. They both do checkerboard/dynamic in most games.

No it's not

 

[Spukc]

I think that's the point.

XBX is mostly for Third Party, with a bit of better details, and the few first party MS has on its side...

On PS4PRO you can still have 4K, third party, first party, VR... it lacks a 4K bluray reader... well it's a console for GAMES, I actually prefer the VR to the 4K bluray thx.

I think VR is a huge lack on Xbox side for a gamer, and if it is really more powerful than a P4PRO, then it's even more a shame not to have the possibility to play VR games on it... maybe they will add it in the future?

GAMES makes the difference when I buy a system, and there is no contest actually.

For example I am not a huge fan of N games, BUT I always buy N console after a while because there are GAMES i'm interested in... they are never N games, but third party exclusives (phoenix wright, bravely default, resident evil....).... this is what sells a system in my hopinion, and I don't see anything appealing on MS side.

Play old games on 4K? I don't have time to replay old games, so who cares really about Diablo3? A game of 5 YEARS ago? Really? :

4k netflix is fake. I have bluraydiscs that look better then streaming "4k"
Nothing beats 4k uhd. And if you market a console as 4k it better play true 4k.

Vr is a cool tech but its not mature at all.
I would rather use a pc atm.

Dont write of "old" games like that.
Diablo 3 is a beast.

Xbox one x is such a huuge upgrade if you have a decent 4k tv. It really is the best looking console and the best place for third party games.
Thinking about selling my ps4 all the game exclusives will end up on ps5 anyway.