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Diablo III Auction House Update - Removed! (March 18, 2014)

Wow, legendary indeed. There's been so much praise for the console version and with Loot 2.0 planned it really makes sense.

The console version gameplay-wise is far superior to the PC version and I've put about 80 hours into the PC vs. about 30 hours into the PS3 version.

Its hard for me to explain, its more along the lines of an opinionated 'feeling', but the game just feels better without all the AH bullshit, even though I know people are going to argue from the standpoint that both AH's on the PC version are optional.

The feeling of getting loot you earn through random drops and building your character around that, is a far superior experience than buying your way to victory with either real money or virtual money.
 
Diablo III's major pillars:
- Streamlined gameplay systems -> Result: Poor loot system, very public staff turnover and loot revamp
- RMAH -> Result: Very public apology, being removed
- Always Online -> Result: Lots of server issues at launch, console version doesn't have it, with RMAH being removed it serves no real purpose
- New visual look -> Result: Not really a big deal either way

I think it's fair to say that Diablo III, as a project to improve on Diablo II, failed by Blizzard's own standards. This doesn't mean it lost money. This doesn't mean it isn't a great game. This doesn't mean that the expansion or eventual patches won't be great. This doesn't mean that you have to agree with the criticisms. But Blizzard, internally, appears to have conceded that the project didn't go the way they planned.

And thank god for that. Blizzard needed some sort of slap to wake them up.
 
The console version gameplay-wise is far superior to the PC version and I've put about 80 hours into the PC vs. about 30 hours into the PS3 version.

Its hard for me to explain, its more along the lines of an opinionated 'feeling', but the game just feels better without all the AH bullshit, even though I know people are going to argue from the standpoint that both AH's on the PC version are optional.

The feeling of getting loot you earn through random drops and building your character around that, is a far superior experience than buying your way to victory with either real money or virtual money.

maybe they'll add controller support to the PC version too?

is there anything else from the console version worth porting over?
 
Can anyone explain why this is a good thing? I'm not too big on Diablo 3 but wouldn't the auction house be a good thing for trading?

The auction house seemed to drive a game design philosophy for Blizzard where it was all but impossible to get the drops you needed to actually progress in the game. When it launched, Inferno was basically impossible to run solely off of the drops you found on your own. Basically, the game seemed to be forcing people to go to the auction house to supplement their gear.

The hope is that with the removal of it, people will start really seeing decent drops again.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better. Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.
 
Awesome! It wasn't so bad just having a gold-only AH on HC but this combined with ladder means that Path of Exile won't dominate all of my time in the genre.
 
so now I'll just have to use d2jsp and have the overall item trading process made 1000x harder. Simply awful if there isn't some kind of better means to exchange items than external forum posting.

I'm sure they are going to make a bunch of people who neither play the game currently or have no interest in the game anymore super happy. Yeah that seems worth it.

To me the ideal auction house would involve only trading items for items.

That way you can exchange cool loot you get for other cool loot instead of focusing on farming gold.
 
While an interesting announcement, the AH was not the reason I gave up on the game. Skills, stats, itemization, all were significant steps back from Diablo II and just found it boring.


They are doing currently 180 like MS did with their console.

Errasing AH is definitely good thing.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better. Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.

Awful idea? The reason the game had terrible legendary drop %s in the first game was because they wanted people to use the AH. Now that they have Loot 2.0 coming out and the removal of the AH, we can finally start heading in the right direction for D3.

Plus, they need to remove that stigma that the AH had associated with it. This is a wonderful idea actually.
 
I love this, but now how will people trade? I don't want to hook up with people to trade with in chat channels and forums again.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better. Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.

Go check out the console D3 loot drops. It's painfully obvious AH affected drop rate on good loot.
 
as if Diablo 3 wasn't going to grow and improve over time? Look at Diablo 2 pre-expansion and pre patches. It's already starting to rise above the hate and criticism with every fix and update. awesome game.
 
Yeah I don't see how the ah could have worked with the new system. If everyone was getting great gear and selling it on the ah it would just be a new tipping point and it would still be easier to buy upgrades than find them as drops
 
Calling it now: Blizzcon announcement about offline on pc coming.
Or Battlenet integration for next gen console(s) versions with always online but no auction houses.

Offline modes would be best though. Loving the hell out of this game on the PS3 right now.

But regardless, this is amazing good news.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better. Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.

Or you could you know, play the game to get the loot.
 
To me the ideal auction house would involve only trading items for items.

That way you can exchange cool loot you get for other cool loot instead of focusing on farming gold.

Something like a sharable backpack where you can put up items for trade (and in return, request specific other items or approve / reject trades) seems reasonable, but some kind of item exchange/trading design is needed. I don't want to do my business through d2jsp and img.ur screenshots, that shit sucks.
 
It's a massive improvement. Go look at the console thread, hell some say it's to easy or broken.

Doesn't take the sting of losing the ability to gear up for a different build more easily. I also hate dealing with people directly when it comes to this kind of stuff so the AH and RMAH was kind of a boon.

Yeah, I really do hope that Loot 2.0 will be a massive improvement. Really not in the mood of checking trade channels etc. for possible upgrades with possible high prices.

And the chance of being able to sell something for small amount of money wasn't so bad, but then, I'm probably in the minority with AH, I liked it and used it.

Yeah, more or less the same for me. I'm not a loot fiend like other people. I like it enough that I can try different things but not enough that I'd want to lose the convenience of being able to get the gear I want to try something without spending X hours looking for it.
 
Seriously, i cant believe that, especially because i think there is nothing wrong with having AH. The problem is having RMAH and hard lack of gold and item sinks and lack of items that makes different, very unique builds possible. I actually would love to have AH in Path of Exile, at least bid based, because going through boards and then pm'ing to meet in-game is awful.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better. Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.

The problem is that the game's entire loot system was designed around the AH, and effectively forced players to use it to beat the hardest difficulty mode.

I think the only people complaining about this are people who want to make money in the RMAH. To those people, I say 'boo hoo'. People who want to play the game for the sake of playing (and without being forced to open their wallets to experience the game in a way similar to Diablo II) are going to be overjoyed.
 
Awful idea. If the AH was the only thing that kept you from playing D3 then your an.....anyway taking options away from a game does not make the game any better.

Referring to monetized purchases as 'options', somewhere, some executives had a very arousing heatspell.
 
The sales numbers put them right back to sleep.

What is their incentive to change if people continue to unquestionably purchase a title?

Sales ? No. That was Diablo 2 crowd that waited years for 3rd.
Loosing fanbase ? Yes. Ton of people written off Diablo and its sequels after III flop and there was no chance that 4 will sell same as 3.
 
I think the actual feel of killing things in D3 is unmatched (as far as ARPGs go) so I'm glad to see more positive changes coming for the PC version.
 
This actually upsets me. I liked farming and listing stuff on the AH :(

On a side note, all items increased in value since the competition got so much smaller
 
so now I'll just have to use d2jsp and have the overall item trading process made 1000x harder. Simply awful if there isn't some kind of better means to exchange items than external forum posting.

Now if you want to buy or sell you have to use a 3rd party site or hang out in a chat room all day. What a AMAZING change. Give me a break. The ability to have a better loot != inability to have a AH.

Bingo. Item selling happened all the time in Diablo 2, it was just really annoying. The AH made something that will happen regardless easier and better. Now it will just be back to the old way.
 
Loot 2.0 should fix the woes people think that they'll face without an AH. They aren't going to remove the AH and keep the droprate as shitty as it is. If the droprate ends up being even half as good as the console, trading won't be a problem. You won't have to sit in a room or forum all day long just to get something, because you shouldn't need all that much gear wise.

The problem is that the game's entire loot system was designed around the AH, and effectively forced players to use it to beat the hardest difficulty mode.

I think the only people complaining about this are people who want to make money in the RMAH. To those people, I say 'boo hoo'. People who want to play the game for the sake of playing (and without being forced to open their wallets to experience the game in a way similar to Diablo II) are going to be overjoyed.

This, mostly. Although I don't agree that the only people who don't want the AH removed are only those wanting to make money. Some just don't want to be social at all, or feel like it's a waste of time trying to trade in channels or forums. I must have put over 2000 hours into Diablo 2, and I think I only ever traded with anyone but friends twice. So it's not like you can't live without your perfect Tal's, or your duped Enigma/Windforces.
 
If any of those third party sites are listed, now would be a good time to buy their stock :P

Removing AH alone doesn't do much without disabling trade itself.
 
it's a nice start but there's still a lot more that needs to be done. I'll be taking the wait and see approach and not blind buying the expansions like I did with D3/HOTS.

Both were games that needed to be in the cooker a bit more
 
It's funny how on console this game is called awesome, but on pc it's shit.
Maybe with the auction house removed, ladder and hopefully an offline mode, butthurt Diablo 2 fans will give it a fair chance...

Who am i kidding, ha.
 
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