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did any series ever had a comeback after a really disappointing game?
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Skyward Sword after Twilight Princess.
TP really disappointed me. I thought most of the game had bland, boring design, the game was way too easy and I didn't really like the artsyle. It had some great moments like the Hidden Village and Midna's character. but overall very disappointing.
SS on the other hand, is pretty much the opposite. Sure Fi was annoying, but just about everything else in the game was amazing.Brilliant design, great artstyle and perfect difficulty level.
Also Groose being Groose.
TP really disappointed me. I thought most of the game had bland, boring design, the game was way too easy and I didn't really like the artsyle. It had some great moments like the Hidden Village and Midna's character. but overall very disappointing.
SS on the other hand, is pretty much the opposite. Sure Fi was annoying, but just about everything else in the game was amazing.Brilliant design, great artstyle and perfect difficulty level.
Also Groose being Groose.
someguyinahat
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Even though they appeared in the reverse order in North America, I'd say Chantelise --> Recettear.
They might TECHNICALLY not be in the same series but given the company and the same art assets I'd call it fair game.
They might TECHNICALLY not be in the same series but given the company and the same art assets I'd call it fair game.
Continuity
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Killzone 1 received some mediocre reviews with nothing original going on. But I was genuinely surprised that people actually gave a shit about Killzone 2, and from the footage I saw I was impressed by the game's presentation. Unsurprisingly the game was quite well done and suddenly Killzone became what the series was initially intended to be, the Halo killer. (Ok so it's still not at the same level as Halo but basically KZ2>>>>>>KZ1)
I enjoyed PS3 for what it was, as well. Granted, it's not a patch on the rest of the series, but not a lot of games are. The somber tone, music and color palette of the game, generational system, and juxtaposition of feudal castles and villages and creepy futuristic tunnels was very unique for the time. Originally, PS3 was supposed to be a lot more "epic" for lack of a better term than it was, but rushed development meant that it had to be scaled back a lot. I remember reading early rumors that PS3 was originally planned as a SEGA CD game (later, I heard this about 4) so that's why stuff was cut. Kinda like what happened to Seiken Densetsu 2. The final "reveal" (of the truth behind the game's world) was pretty amazing for me too.
Holy Order Sol
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Why? So I can act all refined and shit on the Internet and post while stroking my non-existent handlebar mustache?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Wait let me get this straight.
You scorf at us for mentioning Sonic Generations/Colors which were marked comebacks after abysmal showings from the Sonic Team for a couple years.
Then you mention Uncharted 2?
I cant be the only one who burst out laughing when reading this.
Did you even play Sonic Generations?
Ill tell you i played every major sonic release hoping the series would be redeemed and while i loved Sonic Colors, Sonic Generations was nigh perfect.....my only real complaints were the bosses were too easy and that it was too short for the amount of awesomeness it was packing.
How Sonic DOESNT fit this thread perfectly is beyond me, cuz for me Sonic is the textbook example of a series gone to shit then coming back.
Albeit it isnt the godlevel AAA title it was back in the 16bit era but hey in this day and age if you aint got Guns you got a very hard time being considered godlevel AAA title.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Silent Hill.
I can dream 
Are you talking about the game with some really questionable design decisions (such as having enemies with guns that could shoot through anything and see you no matter where you were without a health system to compensate for this), numerous (in a few cases, PS3-freezing) bugs, a story that relies on the faulty assumption that players "care" about the protagonist's wife and child by virtue of them being the protagonist's wife and child (assumed sympathy is horrible storytelling), and some not-so-great levels?
Because
Resistance 3 was a solid game, but it had some major issues. It's a game people should play, but it's nowhere near as good as Stalker/Rage/Bulletstorm/Halo 3/ODST/Reach/Serious Sam 3: BFE, and a bunch of other games I could mention.
For what it's worth, some people, myself included, have some pretty big problems with games that seem to resent the player's presence and kick them out of the play experience, just so they can tell some really crappy, worse-than-Transformers-2 movie. I'm all for experimentation and progress... but if someone argued that Uncharted 2 should not exist, I'd probably agree with them.
Dion Blaster
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Touche. Although in personal experience most people who have played Galaxy/2 refer to it as amazing/awesome, while NSMB are referred to as pretty fun.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
So...Uncharted 2 was the really disappointing game in the Uncharted series and Uncharted 3 was the comeback?
And this is more valid than Sonic 2006 to Sonic Generations/Colors WHY?
Noting that Sonic 2006 for all intents and purposes isnt playable, either because you will throw the controller at the screen because the game is broken, or you will shoot yourself in the head cuz of the storyline.
Im not gonna dispute any hate UC2 gets(i loved it by the way)
But UC -> UC2 -> UC3 has had the UC series at a constant high.
Sonic 16bit -> Sonic DC -> Sonic 06 was a sad sad decline with each game being more disappointing than the last.
Then Sonic Colors and Generations come along.....and they are good games, not even meh games, but good games......i fail to see how someone who would post the Uncharted series can say Sonic doesnt count.
I didn't know so many people could be wrong about FF8. I have always preferred the even-numbered experimental Final Fantasy games over the hyper-traditional odd-numbered ones. (Sakaguchi-era from 1-10)
Devil May Cry 3 is probably the best answer. Series went from awesome to shit to super awesome.
Devil May Cry 3 is probably the best answer. Series went from awesome to shit to super awesome.
SlaughterX
Banned
Resident Evil 4
I will only go as far as to say I can understand why someone would consider Uncharted 2 to be a terrible game.
Not liking what you don't like doesn't mean they're wrong. In fact, given much of the criticism I've seen on the game--particularly THAT THERE IS LITERALLY NO SENSE MADE IN THE STORY AT ALL--I feel that it's reasonable to conclude that FF8 really is a bad game.
The story makes a lot of sense, but it doesn't hand you everything on a silver platter. It also allows for a lot of alternate character interpretation which makes it a lot more interesting to replay.
Jawmuncher
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lately everything coming out of Eidos.
We all know Tomb Raider will be better than Underworld.
Human Revolution is better than 2.
Not sure about hitman since I never played it but it probably will be as well.
We all know Tomb Raider will be better than Underworld.
Human Revolution is better than 2.
Not sure about hitman since I never played it but it probably will be as well.
Blood Money will be hard to top.
Deus Ex HR
Invisible War, despite okay reviews, was in the end deemed by consumers a failure after the promise of Deus Ex and seemed to kill of the fledgling franchise.
HR releases to great reviews, good sales and the general consensus seems to be "franchise is back on" so I feel it's a title that clearly repaired a fair amount of damage.
Invisible War, despite okay reviews, was in the end deemed by consumers a failure after the promise of Deus Ex and seemed to kill of the fledgling franchise.
HR releases to great reviews, good sales and the general consensus seems to be "franchise is back on" so I feel it's a title that clearly repaired a fair amount of damage.
Lapidus' Beard
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Double Dragon Neon
Well, shit. I didn't realize we're all crazy.
There's no indication that the new game will have anything in common with Tomb Raider, besides reusing a single name. Not even a character. A name.
But it's good to know that it will somehow make it a better sequel. That's a relief.
Jawmuncher
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I don't know where you come from but Underworld is considered pretty meh by most.
Tomb Raider is definetly in need of the reboot it's getting.
Yeah I know I was throwing some future shit out there, but underworld isn't hard to top especially if the previews for Tomb Raider 2013 are anything to go buy.
So it might be nothing more than a name at this point but if it is indeed better than it answers OPs question.
Yeah, Hitman by all accounts was constantly rising and the last game actually IS the best. The new one may well deserve a spot in a list about greatest decline and subsequent rise of hype, along with DX:HR.
CecilRousso
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Tales of Monkey Island after Escape from Monkey Island.
Good choice although ToMI isn't as universally loved as the first 3 MI.
I liked it very much.
I wouldn't call us who hate it wrong. The junction system combined with enemies leveling with you is an inherently broken beyond repair, and a fundamental part of the game. That is an objectively bad part of the game. Money has no meaning since their is no armor to buy, and you are forced to make your weapons, in a relative roundabout way. Though while me saying I hated the characters and story is subjective, many plot elements were examples of very bad writing. Not that other final fantasy's aren't guilty of this, but the whole orphanage think is pretty particularly bad. It is a VERY flawed game that has many people who love it despite its flaws. Hell their are plenty of games I love that a lot of people hate. And even more movies I like that gaf hates passionately frequently.