NullPointer
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I'd still like to have a beer with the man. I'd even let him have all of my pretzels.
He's also pretty good at dodging shoes.
He's also pretty good at dodging shoes.
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Did George Bush do any positive things?
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Afghanistan was a failure.
New Orleans, FEMA being incompetent.
Regulations on the banks being lessened and economy crashed.
Glass-Seagal being repealed was also a huge, and I mean HUGE reason our economy took a huge hit(it was meant as a safe-guard to prevent another Depression, LOL)
Gitmo, Patriot Act.
Torture issues and the destruction of the torture convention in American values(military).
Making America not a leader in the world politics, and pushing our allies away from us(not just because he was in Iraqi and Afghanistan, he actually fucked up the relationships on his own).
I believe he ramped up the plans to colonize Mars significantly and created a timeline to get there.
Dark Octave
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That's because he never gave a shit to begin with.
It was all a big joke to him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he take more vacations while in term than any other president?
Had plans for a new exploration vehicle, moon base, eventual manned mars mission.
He had to consult his overlords Cheney and Rumsfeld. They had him by the balls foreign policy wise.
another bad thing he did was the No Child Left Behind Act
It was essentially that the smarter(the best funded already schools) would get money funneled to them because they were on top. The schools that needed the most help got nothing because they were not even in the competition to begin with(scores being low because their parents had to work much harder to make less, and not having time to give the full effort that parents should give to help make their children succeed.)
It was essentially that the smarter(the best funded already schools) would get money funneled to them because they were on top. The schools that needed the most help got nothing because they were not even in the competition to begin with(scores being low because their parents had to work much harder to make less, and not having time to give the full effort that parents should give to help make their children succeed.)
I'm not saying it wasn't.
But we had to go into Afghanistan. The initial go in wasn't terrible. It was everything else that was.
This happened in 1999 under Clinton's watch, not Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm–Leach–Bliley_Act
DrForester
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After the Columbia explosion (which happened relatively early in his administration), NASA decided it was time to end the shuttle program. It was going to be replaced by the Constellation program, which would be a new manned moon program. NASA worked on it for 6 years, developing the rockets and capsule that would make the journey, they even had a successful test launch of the rocket prototype.
Obama came in, decided to continue with the retirement of the shuttle program, but also basically told NASA to forget about the 6 years of work on the Constellation program and begin on a very very vague program that MIGHT land astronauts on nearby asteroids. It was a very vague goal with no real direction. Bush's plan ended the shuttle program and woudl have had a replacement ready a few years later, only having Astronauts hitch rides with Russians for a few years. Obama's plan has no direction for any future manned flight programs, and calls for maybe selecting the type of rocket to be used later in 2015, rather than continuing the 6 years of work that went into the Ares rocket program for Constellation.
The Constellation program was the most focused manned NASA goal since the beginning of the Shuttle program, and while over budget and behind schedule (as all NASA things are) it was progressing nicely. I will say the one good thing about Obama's plan was a bigger focus on private firms going into space (though even a lot of this was well under way before he took office).
It was not a perfect program, but there were some positive results:
Science and Math scores improve in the U.S. 2008
FutureZombie
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teruterubozu
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The Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papahānaumokuākea_Marine_National_Monument
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papahānaumokuākea_Marine_National_Monument
OK I agree with all this but OP asked about positive things.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm not even American, and I love NASA.
Maybe Obama knows something we don't. Land on asteroids?
sry I don't really enjoy using MSNBC as a source, could you find someone more credible.
FieryBalrog
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this is true, after the intial effort in Iraq bombed hard and the Surge (which Cheney/Rumsfeld were against) worked, those clowns thankfully got sidelined. There's a scene in I think his memoir where Cheney wants to bomb Iran after he's been discredited and Bush asks the rest of the room if anyone agrees with Cheney, and like no one raises their hand.
It's an AP article, silly goose.
MSNBC citing Bush as doing something positive is not credible? Because MSNBC is full of well known bush lovers.
DrForester
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It's just as credible as a Foxnews story that praises Obama
NullPointer
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Well...
Bipartisan opposition -- the bill split the Republican caucus, which is still mostly hardline on immigration, and picked up some Democratic nays as well.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2007/s235
Some of the Democratic nay votes are probably tactical (to avoid a vote that would be dangerous for them in the campaign and wouldn't matter in any case), but some, such as Byrd's, clearly aren't. On a pure majority vote it might've had a chance with the White House whipping, but for cloture...
ah, more reasons to dislike Clinton.
It's MSNBC, they don't really have that great of credibility.
Which I also, would ask for a different source.
But didn't that money come with a lot of stipulations making it less effective than it could have been?
If it wasnt for this god awful terrible shitty painful disaster thing this president did, he wouldnt have been so bad
apply to anything about any person who did anything ever
fact is that he did do it
MisterHero
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He was the last hope for manned space exploration (on the US's part, at least).
That's kind of funny and stings at the same time.
That's kind of funny and stings at the same time.
LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, the Immigration Act, the Education Act, and Medicare. There's no comparison.
oneils
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Huh, looks like I remembered this speech wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7OCgMPX2mE
I remembered it happening sooner than three days later. Guess not.
I am not an American, but everyone in Canada was horrified. I have to say that speech originally sent chills down my spine. I thought it was great. You kind of have to relive the moment to feel it again.
RobotChant
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There's no comparison in loss of American life/tragedy when comparing the two war eras either.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/08.24/99-ptsd.html
http://www.mrfa.org/vnstats.htm
aparisi2274
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We all know about the stupid shit he (or at least Cheney and his administration) is responsible for. Multiple wars, financial meltdown on his watch, PATRIOT, illegal surveillance, etc.
Did he do anything positive? Or useful? Or just generally good?
Aside from giving SNL and Will Ferral a shit ton of material to work with, NO!
and tbh he still is
How many of them returned home?There's no comparison in loss of American life/tragedy when comparing the two war eras either.
That was actually Game 3 of the World Series, which makes it even better.
30,000 died during LBJ's presidency if I remember right
Yeah. After Obama won... it's just been like a downward spiral into more and more craziness.
What's the deal with republicans and good looking daughters? I guess all this non-masturbation somehow pays off in the end.He made this with his penis.
cartoon_soldier
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He did better than Obama to fight AIDs
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