Ah great thanks will have to download and try it for myself.
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Digital Foundry initial analysis of Battlefront beta (PS4)
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Ah great thanks will have to download and try it for myself.
Syndicate seems visibly pared back compared to Unity, would be very strange if the PS4 could not run this at 1080p but perhaps I'm overestimating Sony's console.
Ubisoft are everything but amateurs when it comes to tech.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Not going to happen.
Are BF games more GPU reliant and AC unity CPU?
I don't know about consoles, but on PC BF can be particularly CPU bound in MP, in SP it's mostly limited by the GPU, unless you really have a crappy CPU.
Unity is very heavy on both actually, I would not put the blame on the Jaguar cores.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2442871
It is pared back because the Unity framerate was awful on the ps4 even at 900p.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Well, I think his point was that GZ was 720p, but TPP is 900p. There's been various improvements to the One SDK so the engine should be able to do more than it did at launch.
BF4's framerate wasn't even stable. Hardline's was, so that's an improvement, but it would be a disappointment if this is still running at 720p.
So you are implying that they will still target 900p once again ? I haven't paid too much attention to PS4 footage, it seems very soft (900p) to me but Youtube being what it is.....It's hard to guess.
Anyway I think they tagret 1080p/30fps on PS4 and naturally it implies trade-offs compared to Unity which is a purple patch when it comes to tech in spite of a rough launch.
A lot of people overestimate what the consoles can do at 60fps (let alone locked).
I just played the Alpha on PC ans it was running pretty smoothly on decent rig, I will try it on PS4 tomorrow, it doesn't change the fact that 900p isn't really great.
I hope they'll use medium settings to lock it at 60 in final build.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
How is the frame rate when playing splitscreen ? They should cap it at 30fps when it's bad.
Netherscourge
Banned
Awesome.
This is the ONLY part I care about and being around 50 to 60 FPS on average is perfect for this type of game.
Modest Mauser
Member
Yep. It's mostly at 60 fps, that's what matters. I'm okay with dropping res, visuals, for that responsive gameplay.
Maybe. I am terminally bored of those games so I haven't been paying attention. I suspect that they'll go for maintaining frame rate first, almost certainly meaning 900p.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/134967298@N03/P1qdjU
Album of PS4 pngs I took this morning for anyone interested. Some shots are just to show off effects. I tried capturing the sparkling snow and player footprints on Hoth but they don't show up well in screens.
Album of PS4 pngs I took this morning for anyone interested. Some shots are just to show off effects. I tried capturing the sparkling snow and player footprints on Hoth but they don't show up well in screens.
i wouldn't be suprised if many settings on the PS4 are ALREADY medium.. or lower, considering BF4.
DF said that many effects are in High settings
But that's not confirmed at all
Kenzodielocke
Banned
No, that's why I said it's my guess.
DF said most settings are near high. Definitely a big jump in effect and asset quality consistency over BF4.
Pestilence11
Member
Drops from 60 to 50 have to be much less noticeable than 30 to 20 right? The reason I ask is, the way DF words it, it's like is horrendous.
They're only in one area of one map in the biggest game mode. They're noticeable there but not hugely detrimental. Overall performance is quite good, much better than I expected.
Yes, because going from 30 to 20 is a 33% reduction in framerate, but going from 60 to 50 is a 16% reduction in framerate. It's gonna be much more noticeable when you lose 33% of frames every second.
PC benchmarks to see how well the game scales with more powerful hardware :
Considering neither console versions are running the ultra preset it should actually be easy to run on a wide range of gaming grade PCs, the system requirements target max settings, which is very unusual.
The "lower-end" Nvidia GPUs seem to be getting shown up by AMD's; my 750 ti is doomed :/
Pestilence11
Member
Exactly what I was thinking. Their wording made it seem terrible that there were drops to 50 though. Either way I'll give this a go tomorrow but the casual Battlefield remarks already make me think it's a pass.
Dictator93
Member
Use the res scaler, to put the game at 75% internal res: problem solved... that or run the game on high.
Well the 380/285 is a stronger GPU than the 960 so this is to be expected. Strong showing for AMD, not surprised it's an AMD Gaming Evolved title.
I'd like to see to which extent could DX12 further the gap between AMD and Nvidia in this game.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
It's sad that fluctuating 50 to 60 fps is considered to be quite acceptable, good even. Standards should be higher than this.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
You really expect another 180p and 15fps before the game launches in a month?
I feel the same exact way man. It's a hard life, this is why under powered consoles truly suck and we all lose.
Seems odd to me that DICE, who co developed Mantle with AMD and all the talk of coding to the metal on X1, along with the SDK improvements to the X1 can't get past 720p. I'm double dipping PC (for the co op misisons and high end graphics) and PS4 (multi) for this game but will definitely download the beta and EA access trial for X1.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
/drool
This game it's 50-60 fps, with such graphic assets it's really a remarkable results at 900p. Complain because it's not 1080p it's really absurd.
diffusionx
Gold Member
The consoles have to cost a certain amount, and they are fixed even as graphics develop. It'd be nice to have more powerful consoles but more powerful consoles cost more and developers will still want to do more. I think these systems hit a decent balance.
Are you new on console 60 fps game? It's even worst of this, in the past.
What's odd? They can't turn around of the gpu/bandwith limit.
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
Safe to assume this will be 720p on Xbox One? Or maybe it'll be higher due to DX12 and more mature dev tools since it's launch.
Dropping physics stuff like destruction does allow for that.
Past generation Dice games were unsteady 30 fps, vsync off and sub720p on console. Funny thing console weren't underpowered but people complained less even with worst standard because they have the right power.
I doubt optimization it's all that simple. I don't recall all that massive physics destruction presence in any case.
Krappadizzle
Member
It's not absurd with how many people have 1080 sets.
Probably because they targeting 60 fps. 1080p are for 30 fps games.
diffusionx
Gold Member
And with less people. I think BF maxed out at 24 players last generation. They certainly weren't very attractive games either.
MGSV ? COD ?
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Glad to see they improved the framerate and it's not dropping to 40fps anymore, it should play good at 50-60fps. I'm looking forward to this now.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Wasn't some insider saying how it was a broken mess here and it would be a shitshow when the game came out? Can someone tell me how his back is after holding that massive L for as long as he has to hold it?
Split screen in the co-op missions is confirmed 30 fps on the PlayStation stream the other day.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Right? Been hearing nothing but positivity with the game and it's performance.
Do you have a lot of friends to play with on the PS4 than the PC? I would suggest following your friends.