They seem similar in quality to me. Slightly higher dpi on the Vita. I think the Vita's screen is made by Samsung also?
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Digital Foundry's technical analysis of the PS Vita
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Strange how so many games are sub-qHD. This even goes for games like HSG.
Hopefully the 2nd gen of games resolve this issue.
Hopefully the 2nd gen of games resolve this issue.
H_Prestige
Banned
Doesn't the vita use a super amoled from samsung?
ProfessorMoran
Member
Go buy an Ngage instead.
since it is a 5" screen, it shouldn't be that big of a deal..........compared to subHD games on a 32"-50" screens.
but of course some will ignore that.
sixteen-bit
Member
interesting stuff. I'm disappointed at the amount of sub-qHD content out the gate already though :/
Hunter-Zero
Member
Yeah, and this way you will get the ultra cheap Vita with 0 games to play, because no company will want to publish his titles in a dead platform.
Finest logic indeed.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Have the Vita and about 5 games preordered from Amazon. Can't wait.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Very true. The only thing propping up the 3DS are a well-timed wave of 1st party titles. Without them no one would have given a shit about the platform this past Christmas.
Littlegator
Banned
Zoramon089
Banned
Well duh...game sell platforms...
Littlegator
Banned
I was referring to "if you subscribe to Sony's vision of taking the home console experience on the go."
You know, like about 2% of the market.
I didn't know 70 million was 2% of the market. Huh.
Actually hold a Vita before you proclaim they have "insanely loose sticks."
Best analogs on a portable by a country mile.
Yes, it could. This is something that hasn't been investigated, and we probably won't find out until someone hacks the hardware. With the PSP, it was locked to a 222MHz clock speed until much later in its lifecycle, when Sony gave devs the ability to use the full 333MHz. Bumping up the clock speed affected the GPU speed as well.
" that even the slightest touch shifts them from their default position. Much like the 3DS's implementation, we can see this lack of friction as something that might take a tiny bit of adapting to, and some may prefer a little more resistance"
Sounds exactly like the ps3 analog sticks that make me hate using the system.
Won't matter either way for awhile since I canceled my amazon preorder when the lack of internal memory + insanely overpriced proprietary sticks + some games requiring sticks combo.
And this should be the only reason to want to own a vita, buying it for anything else is retarded and completely against what the vita really is.
sergioalb64
Member
I really don't mind the non-native res deal, but I'm quite curious as to why it is. Has it been confirmed to be related to the power budget? Maybe the devs had to downscale the final game res to have the games ready for launch? (pure especulation, I'm not sure if that's even possible). Anyway, just very curious. Can't wait for the Vita!
I think the sticks are almost perfect. I would have preferred the right analog stick be a bit lower to avoid touching it while pressing X, but I have huge hands.
To each their own, but I think you'll change your tune when you hold one and see that beautiful screen pumping out console level graphics. Spent over $500 on my import haul, and I don't regret it one bit.
I hope the sub-native res is just a launch game issue, not a sign that Sony allows first party titles to shoot for graphics the hardware can't support. Especially on handheld games I want good IQ over effects.
Chain of Olympus (I own Ghost but haven't played it yet) or Tekken: DR graphics with moar pixels, some shaders, better lighting and stellar IQ would be more than okay with me.
I'm more hyped about two sticks than graphics.
Chain of Olympus (I own Ghost but haven't played it yet) or Tekken: DR graphics with moar pixels, some shaders, better lighting and stellar IQ would be more than okay with me.
I'm more hyped about two sticks than graphics.
I also have huge hands (for reference I can palm a basketball with both hands off the bounce with relative ease) which is a big reason I don't like the ps3 controller. The fact they felt good in your hands is a huge surprise but definitely a good one. Was going to buy day 1 due to persona 4 remake but with their memory nonsense I'm going to have to hold off for a price drop/hack + dongle to use non proprietary memory and just finish my stack of DS/PSP games.
RockmanWhore
Member
Most time, the IQ of launch games are better and then, devs slowly sacrifice the IQ to put more details and complexity :/
Even if it doesn't really seem noticable for a lot of people, the subHD thing is quite dumb. It's like their whole shit again that they pulled with the launch of the PS3. Calling it the only real HD console that would deliver all games at 1080p... how wrong they were.
Maybe it's just something we can forgive at launch and hope for better results in a few years.
Maybe it's just something we can forgive at launch and hope for better results in a few years.
There's really no point to this machine.
The sticks on the PS3 are not insanely loose.
famousmortimer
Banned
Oh, pixel counters.
Uncharted and Gravity Daze look good. If you would stop counting pixels you would see that.
Uncharted and Gravity Daze look good. If you would stop counting pixels you would see that.
elrechazado
Banned
Umm, heard of the 3ds?
Graphics Horse
Member
At half the frame rate, sure.
Or with less detailed assets. Which I would greatly prefer.
"sub-HD" or not, Uncharted still looks darn awesome.
Interesting about Ultimate MvC3 like the 3DS version of SSFIV having static characters in the background; tough with all the chaos going on is nothing that "big" to miss.
Awful scaling artifacts.
diffusionx
Gold Member
But then again, you are viewing the 5" screen from a proportionate distance.
I feel like that screen is just going to waste with these sub-qHD games. And it's so many of them, including the ones that are demanding, that it seems a bit worrisome. I hope the hardware is powerful enough to actually deliver these titles at the screen's resolution. I hope it's just a launch thing.
famousmortimer
Banned
I have the slightest hunch that the quality of graphics will improve. There are hints in the graphics/quality of every launch game ever, and then games that came after those.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
OT question: Wait, so "Preorder Cancelled" is not a bannable meme now?
I actually cancelled my preorder, thank you very much.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
The point is that Sony doesn't have franchises like Nintendo's that are 100% bankable. 3rd party support is vital for their success, unlike the 3DS.
You sound like a great human being....
Hunter-Zero
Member
Exactly.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It's ridiculous that games aren't running at native resolution on this thing, but at least one can take solace in the fact that at this screen size it might be hard to tell. That is, unless you play with it held up to your face, and I'm sure some people do, since there are people who sit 4 feet from their 50 inch television and then complain about the image quality.
Awful scaling artifacts.
First of all there're loads of compression artifacts in that pic. Second you are viewing the picture at 3-4x the size of a Vita screen. Shrink it down to 5 inches (Vita's screen size) and see if you are still complaining about it.
The resolution deficiency has to be a case of the devs' launch engines borrowing some misguided approach from the platform's initial tools and libraries. It's a hardware deferred renderer with auto tiling, for pete's sake, whoever he is. I get the feeling the engines are trying to carry over the tricks/ticks/compromises learned on 360/PS3.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
The screen resolution is not really chosen for games, it is just a standard res for portable screens. Devs can and should target any res that plays best. Also, devs will only get better results with time, history shows that with all consoles.