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Dinner with your date, who pays the bill?

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Yeah minigolf works, its dumb fun. For nervous guys who don't know what to say yet it might be somewhat uncomfortable though. Thats where cinema comes in.
 
Good. Makes it easier to avoid these types of girls.

Pretty much. Honestly if it's the first date, I'll always pay and I don't have an issue with that. But if she offers as some kind of fakeout, that's just wrong. My sister told me she did this and I gave her tons of shit for it. Considering she is always on about gender roles and tries to call me a woman hater, I was amazed and called her a hypocrit.
 
Yeah minigolf works, its dumb fun. For nervous guys who don't know what to say yet it might be somewhat uncomfortable though. Thats where cinema comes in.

I go out to movies with girlfriends I don't go to movies with dates. Last time I went to a movie with a date I was in high school and I wanted to get a blowjay and an empty dark theater was my only option. Thank you Baby Genius 2.
 
I go out to movies with girlfriends I don't go to movies with dates. Last time I went to a movie with a date I was in high school and I wanted to get a blowjay and an empty dark theater was my only option. Thank you Baby Genius 2.

My Boss' Daughter about 10 years ago. God damn. Awful flick and nothing happened either.
 
When I'm on a first date, we usually split the bill or go dutch. If we're dating, then we alternate on the bills.

After having been yelled at (yes, literally yelled at to the point that it caused a scene multiple times) for both paying entirely for first dates or splitting the bill, I've decided that going dutch is the way to go. If I'm going to get yelled at, I may as well pay less for it.
 
In the relationship I'm in now, it depends. Really isn't no set order either, it's just whichever one of us feels like picking up the tab.

If I was on a first date with someone, we split that shit.
 
If the implicit question is "am I willing to let the girl pay," the answer is yes, but I prefer to. I know she can, and I'm willing to let her if she really wants to, but I make a good deal of money and I like treating people.
 
Men, beware if a woman offers to split the check on a first date, it's a trick!
I've had many woman admit that they offer to help pay but if the guy agrees they won't go out with him again. Evil!

So I should split the check and be glad that I dodged a manipulative game-playing bullet?
 
Definitely split the bill, no question. Any woman who scoffs at an equitable approach to that situation isn't worth dating. Paying for everything for the first few days gets expensive real quick.
 
It depends on the restaurant and the kind of girl.

If it's a fancy place, I'll pay.

First date? I'll pay.

Otherwise, we split the bill.

If she's making more money than me, I'll marry her. xD
 
How do you surprise each other?

There are no surprises/secrets left once you're married.

Is this a trick question? Like anyone else? If it's an item, you use wrapping paper or have it shipped as a gift. Also, generally you don't go out of your way to look for birthday/holiday presents on cc records. Paper money exists. I realize this might be too hard to imagine, but I tried. Not all surprises are purchased with money anyway.
 
Sadly the path to an egalitarian society is laid with many established customs that enforce sexism under the guise of chivalry.
 
Beginning, the guy should. After awhile though it's okay, but you don't want her to feel that you are cheap.

So we guys cannot feel that the woman is being cheap by letting us pay for the first few dates? I think it would be better to splitt the bill or let the guy/woman pay first date and the female/guy the second date
 
Split it, alternate the bill, pay for what each person ordered. Usually the course of action when I go out with friends, it'd be the same I guess if I ever get asked out/ask out someone out
 
There are no surprises/secrets left once you're married.

Is this a trick question? Like anyone else? If it's an item, you use wrapping paper or have it shipped as a gift. Also, generally you don't go out of your way to look for birthday/holiday presents on cc records. Paper money exists. I realize this might be too hard to imagine, but I tried. Not all surprises are purchased with money anyway.
It's not very responsible to not monitor your accounts for large purchases. If I suddenly see a few hundred dollars going out somewhere, especially to a merchant/purchase I don't recognize, you can be sure as he'll that I'm gonna investigate.
 
It's not very responsible to not monitor your accounts for large purchases. If I suddenly see a few hundred dollars going out somewhere, especially to a merchant/purchase I don't recognize, you can be sure as he'll that I'm gonna investigate.

You sound like a person who doesn't like surprises. If you're going to marry, trust is a big deal. Do you also track your partner's whereabouts via GPS tracking on their phone to make sure they go to pre-approved locations? A pattern of strange charges would be cause for alarm, but if your birthday is a week away and there's a big purchase, why wouldn't you leave it alone. Just use common sense?

Also, as I mentioned, you can pay with cash if you're buying a special something from a boutique or market that you wouldn't normally frequent.
 
Typically me, but it depends on who's taking whom on the date. So for instance, if my girlfriend asked me out on a date, she'd probably pay. Usually. It's typical for us to just split the bill though.
 
You sound like a person who doesn't like surprises. If you're going to marry, trust is a big deal. Do you also track your partner's whereabouts via GPS tracking on their phone to make sure they go to pre-approved locations? A pattern of strange charges would be cause for alarm, but if your birthday is a week away and there's a big purchase, why wouldn't you leave it alone. Just use common sense?

Also, as I mentioned, you can pay with cash if you're buying a special something from a boutique or market that you wouldn't normally frequent.
I love surprises! That's why I pay for them with my personal card, not one of our shared card, and he does the same. Cash can't be used for everything, and even in the case when it can be, we keep even stricter tabs on our cash flow than our credit.
 
Sometimes I pay, sometimes she pays. Wouldn't even be with a woman that didn't do this. I also NEVER buy a woman drinks(or anything for that matter) if I don't know her/just met her. In a general sense when it comes to dating, I mean.
 
I love surprises! That's why I pay for them with my personal card, not one of our shared card, and he does the same. Cash can't be used for everything, and even in the case when it can be, we keep even stricter tabs on our cash flow than our credit.

If you have to be really, really sneaky you can have a friend or family member buy and receive the product and pay them back. If the simple fact of knowing something is coming by having to ask if your partner bought something recently from such and such, I can't intercept the UPS/Fedex delivery every time either. Just be creative! Most good surprises are things you pick up after work or buy the same day that you give it to them anyway. No chance they knew it was coming unless they spy on you ;).

I suppose I should address the topic at hand: Whoever asked the other out should pay that date and then you can work it out after that. If you're past test dates, just split or alternate.
 
JeeseZao: what do you think of couples who get a prenuptial agreement? I just love the attitude of "any couple who does things differently from my own is doing it wrong" coming off your posts. :)
 
I don't mind paying, but honestly it's a turn off when the girl just assumed you're gonna pay for everything. I remember one of the last dates I went to; the moment i lined up for a movie, the cunt decided to stat walking around and pretended to casually look at all the upcoming movie posters while I stood in line paid for us both like a jackass. I swear, I was considering yelling across the the theater to ask her for her share in front of all the people.
 
JeeseZao: what do you think of couples who get a prenuptial agreement? I just love the attitude of "any couple who does things differently from my own is doing it wrong" coming off your posts. :)

You infer a lot. You don't really want my opinion, but I'll give you a bit more. If a couple gets married, they have made a commitment to each other for life. If they didn't intend this, they should just date and remain legally single. Marriage may not be realistic for a lot of couples anymore. Other than various exceptions, it just doesn't seem logical to split your finances once you're in a marriage relationship.

Mostly, it's probably just a product of people living together for years before they feel pressured to "take the next step" and make it "official." After living together for so long as separate parties, why change anything now that you got an official document?

I don't have a problem with how other people decide to handle their life or if they want to get a prenup. This all blew up because of the notion that a married couple would alternate paying for date nights or pay for different things as if they both don't live together, plan to be together for life, have common goals, love each other, trust each other, etc. What difference is there between a dating couple and that?
 
I insist on paying if I suggested a nice restaurant. I earn significantly more than anyone I've ever dated, and would feel bad if I pushed someone into spending more than they wanted to.

That being said, I appreciate a person who can pull their own weight. I shouldn't be paying for everything.
 
Should be 50/50 unless you sincerely want to pay for the whole thing and not because you're pressured to via gender.

Misogyny is a terrible thing yet why should misandry be tolerated? Let both evils die.
 
depends on what is going on in the relationship, but there should be give and take.

"I pay for gas, you pay for dinner"
 
Should be 50/50 unless you sincerely want to pay for the whole thing and not because you're pressured to via gender.

Misogyny is a terrible thing yet why should misandry be tolerated? Let both evils die.

I'm trying to get the girl, not change the world :P

It is hard enough to get the right girl without throwing something like this into the mix.
 
I always pay.

I know it doesn't make sense, especially considering that she makes more than I do right now, but I feel it is the polite thing to do.
 
YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH
 
I'm trying to get the girl, not change the world :P

It is hard enough to get the right girl without throwing something like this into the mix.

Dude, if the way to a women's pants is to by her a dinner she's just straight up nasty, and you shouldn't be trying to fuck her anyway.
 
YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON DINNER DATES WITH A PERSON YOURE NOT IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH

wut
 
Split or alternate.
Once in a while you can treat them to a day / night out (and they should do the same).

I wouldn't tolerate being with anyone who expected me to pay for them because of my gender.
 
In my mind, the one who invites should pay. Last time I invited a girl though, I tried paying and she would not have any of it. She almost got angry, so I dropped it.
 
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