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Generally speaking the new testaments trumphs the old testament. This dweeb of a politican shows exactly why religion and politics don't and shouldn't mix. Pure vile and crap like this doesn't belong in religion or politics, to GOD what is to GOD and to caesar what is to caesar.
 
Ignis Fatuus said:
Hey look, everyone's favorite Young Earth Creationist is back.

Didn't you once compare abortion to human sacrifice?

WHAT?

Human sacrifice was to make the sun rise again!!!
abortion on the other hand...
 
Count Dookkake said:
More like disabled children are a reason to hate god.

No it's a sign of god's goodness. He was being mild, he could have sent a she-bear and tear up your newborn. Instead he only gave it a disability.
 
I think it's a crime the politically correct douchebags are trying to take the word "retard" from us. I mean if I can't call this retard a retard how am I going to express myself?
 
Tence said:
No it's a sign of god's goodness. He was being mild, he could have sent a she-bear and tear up your newborn. Instead he only gave it a disability.

The she-bear is calling from inside the house

If god can be completely random then why can't I?
 
You know, I've always found it confusing that the God from the Old Testament is seen as the good guy. He kills far more people than Satan and, in comparison, Satan seems like a pretty straight up guy.
 
So what happens when the stars align and the forest go silent? Is the tree that fall still a tree that make a sound?

I hope not.
 
SmokyDave said:
Why do you allow people like this to hold positions of power?

No really, why? If he was about to present scientific evidence of first time abortions affecting future pregnancies I'd understand but it's always the same old bullshit.

Meanwhile, right here in the UK, our politicians are busily suggesting that the NHS shouldn't fund homeopathic treatments because they're worthless chalk pills that only have any effect because of the placebo effect, and have been proven ineffective by all well-conducted research.

Much as we complain sometimes, it's things like this that make me appreciate some of the benefits of having sane bastards in charge over here rather than frothing-at-the-mouth bastards.
 
Wickerbasket said:
You know, I've always found it confusing that the God from the Old Testament is seen as the good guy. He kills far more people than Satan and, in comparison, Satan seems like a pretty straight up guy.
But that's just what Satan wants you to think! /christian

Your post made me put Sympathy For The Devil on. Cheers!

Edit: Precisely, Iapetus. I wanted to draw a direct MP = Republican State Legislator comparison but I'm not familiar enough with the roles. Either way, no power to those that think like this.
 
Wickerbasket said:
You know, I've always found it confusing that the God from the Old Testament is seen as the good guy. He kills far more people than Satan and, in comparison, Satan seems like a pretty straight up guy.

New Testament God isn't exactly all smiles and sunshine.

http://www.thebricktestament.com/revelation/index.html

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iapetus said:
Meanwhile, right here in the UK, our politicians are busily suggesting that the NHS shouldn't fund homeopathic treatments because they're worthless chalk pills that only have any effect because of the placebo effect, and have been proven ineffective by all well-conducted research.

Much as we complain sometimes, it's things like this that make me appreciate some of the benefits of having sane bastards in charge over here rather than frothing-at-the-mouth bastards.

I'm not sure what you are saying with this, but all US politicians are not "insane frothing-at-the-mouth bastards."
 
daw840 said:
I'm not sure what you are saying with this, but all US politicians are not "insane frothing-at-the-mouth bastards."
Basically, if an elected MP in the UK made the comments in the OP (or similar past topics) they'd lose all credibility, have no support from the public or their parties and have to resign within a matter of hours. The fact that even one or two of these idiots exist in positions of power in the US is surprising and I suspect there are a lot more than one or two. Do these people ever have to resign? Are they ever removed from their positions after making these ridiculous statements?
 
SmokyDave said:
Basically, if an elected MP in the UK made the comments in the OP (or similar past topics) they'd lose all credibility, have no support from the public or their parties and have to resign within a matter of hours. The fact that even one or two of these idiots exist in positions of power in the US is surprising and I suspect there are a lot more than one or two. Do these people ever have to resign? Are they ever removed from their positions after making these ridiculous statements?

The problem comes when there's a large amount of the population that believes in these comments.
 
SmokyDave said:
Basically, if an elected MP in the UK made the comments in the OP (or similar past topics) they'd lose all credibility, have no support from the public or their parties and have to resign within a matter of hours. The fact that even one or two of these idiots exist in positions of power in the US is surprising and I suspect there are a lot more than one or two. Do these people ever have to resign? Are they ever removed from their positions after making these ridiculous statements?

Well, they can be removed during election times, but unfortunately a lot of people don't even remember things like this that were said.
 
EvilMario said:
The problem comes when there's a large amount of the population that believes in these comments.

daw840 said:
Well, they can be removed during election times, but unfortunately a lot of people don't even remember things like this that were said.


In the right areas, this comment will win the election. Sad but true.
 
Originally Posted by 2nd Commandment said:
You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.


What a prick!
 
LosDaddie said:
These comments are not, at all, surprising. This is genuinely what the religious Right believes.

No, no it's not. My entire family (with us kids excluded) are all a part of this "religious right" and NONE of them think this way. Everybody thinks comments like this are retarded.
 
daw840 said:
No, no it's not. My entire family (with us kids excluded) are all a part of this "religious right" and NONE of them think this way. Everybody thinks comments like this are retarded.

Turn on some good ol Pat Robertson and you'll hear how God will punish you/America for supporting abortion and gay lifestyle/marriage.
 
LosDaddie said:
Turn on some good ol Pat Robertson and you'll hear how God will punish you/America for supporting abortion and gay lifestyle/marriage.

Everyone in my family thinks Pat Robertson is a complete douche and totally unrepresentative of the Christian religion. As a matter of fact, every Christian person I have ever spoke with has said the same thing.
 
EvilMario said:
The problem comes when there's a large amount of the population that believes in these comments.
:(
daw840 said:
Well, they can be removed during election times, but unfortunately a lot of people don't even remember things like this that were said.
:(
uraldix said:
In the right areas, this comment will win the election. Sad but true.
Oh, come on! I only have so many "You are a big, powerful country, please elect less nutters" sad faces.
 
Willy105 said:

Speaking for myself, I do not find it logical to believe in a God who lives beyond the sky and makes intercessions into the lives of "lowly" human beings. Such beliefs are typical of religious approaches from thousands of years ago and do not fit into today's more understood world. This may be too much to ask, but as humans I hope we can rise from the prehistoric foundations of religion rooted in the fear that we are insignificant beings who will leave little if any mark on history once we die, and that in death our existence is ended. Through these notions and a lack of understanding of the world around us comes the conception of first gods and then God, starting with depictions of spirits maintaining the world around us in animism. Further "progress" led to the classification of gods as social beings much like ourselves in Greek and similar mythology, and then with the conception of God as a parental figure we arrive monotheistic Abrahamic traditions, among many others. In each of these depictions of the world beyond the goal of religion was the same: how can we properly worship these nature governing powers so that, powerful as they are, they may intercede on our behalf, and how is it that these powers wish us to live? This led to a largely theistic definition of god/God, rooted in dogma and regulation, fear and genuflection. In our modern understanding of the world the basis for this theistic depiction of God is wiped away. We know trees do not sprout up because some being in the sky told them to, we know lightning isn't caused by the anger of the supernatural, we know that the pain of childbirth is not some divine punishment for some sin committed thousands of years ago. However, in rejecting this theistic definition of God rooted in dogma and misunderstanding it is still possible to have a powerful connection with what you feel to be divine. It is possible to have a religionless, atheist God. This is the God that was felt in Jesus by the people who saw fit to enshrine him in theistic, liturgical tradition, the God that was felt in Siddhartha Gautama by his followers who saw in him a way to spiritual well being. This is the God that has been lost through the generations in the trappings of religious and theistic thought, trapped by the rules followers force themselves into in order to somehow gain the recognition of some supernatural being. I reject these beliefs, and reject the thought that some being in the sky has any influence on what occurs in our realm.

Heavily recommended.
 
daw840 said:
Everyone in my family thinks Pat Robertson is a complete douche and totally unrepresentative of the Christian religion. As a matter of fact, every Christian person I have ever spoke with has said the same thing.

Most, if not all, of my in-laws love Robertson, Dobson, Perkins and the late Falwell.
 
LosDaddie said:
Most, if not all, of my in-laws love Robertson, Dobson, Perkins and the late Falwell.

Well, these people obviously have a following, no denying that, it is very unfortunate.
 
itsgreen said:
So did other note worthy individuals in the past century.

And? Doesn't make it right. Also doesn't make it right to paint an entire group of people with the same brush because some nutjob who made it on TV thinks that they speak for all Christians. Same goes for any group of people.
 
I didn't see his apology here yet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022204512.html
Marshall, appearing shaken by criticism gone viral, said his remarks had been shortened in some news reports and twisted out of context.


Marshall said his broader point on Thursday was that he had collected a substantial amount of published medical research suggesting that abortions raise the risk of miscarriage and birth defects in subsequent pregnancies and that those findings echoed the Bible's teaching that abortion is wrong.

"The point is, there are profound consequences to the act of abortion," Marshall said.


And here's a non-washingtonpost version: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/MARS23_20100222-222402/326172/
In a statement released yesterday on his Web site, Marshall said he regretted his "poorly chosen words."

"A story by Capital News Service regarding my remarks at a recent press conference opposing taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood conveyed the impression that I believe disabled children are a punishment for prior abortions," he said.

"No one who knows me or my record would imagine that I believe or intended to communicate such an offensive notion.
I have devoted a generation of work to defending disabled and unwanted children, and have always maintained that they are special blessings to their parents.

"Nevertheless, I regret any misimpression my poorly chosen words may have created as to my deep commitment to fighting for these vulnerable children and their families."

What a crock of shit
 
Disabled children are the Lord's punishment for women who "abort the first born," a Republican state legislator from Virginia has argued in calling on state officials to eliminate state money going to Planned Parenthood.

Pretty much the only money Planned Parenthood gets from the state are medicaid payments from really poor people looking for birth control. Without birth control, I guess these people would end up with more kids. And since these people are getting medicaid, they are obviously dirt poor and receiving welfare (medicaid at the minimum).

So, the end result is that This Republican is for growing government and expanding welfare. Really smart, you theocratic douche-bag.
 
LosDaddie said:
Turn on some good ol Pat Robertson and you'll hear how God will punish you/America for supporting abortion and gay lifestyle/marriage.
He said god would punish Dover, Pennsylvania for their decision to boot out intelligent design. No natural disasters have hit Dover.
 
I'm glad this guy has apologised because it shows this shit apparently doesn't fly, even in the US.

Marshall said his broader point on Thursday was that he had collected a substantial amount of published medical research suggesting that abortions raise the risk of miscarriage and birth defects in subsequent pregnancies and that those findings echoed the Bible's teaching that abortion is wrong.

"The point is, there are profound consequences to the act of abortion," Marshall said.
If that is actually what he said, I don't have a problem with it. It ignores the myriad of shit the bible is utterly wrong about but hey, whatever helps him sleep at night.
 
speculawyer said:
He said god would punish Dover, Pennsylvania for their decision to boot out intelligent design. No natural disasters have hit Dover.
...yet


They always apologize, and they always cry that they were taken out of context. He said what he said here, no other way to take it. And that "substantial amount of evidence" he mentions is one study that "suggested that there is a higher risk of premature birth and low birth weight in children born to women who have had an abortion". It's a bit of a leap from there to say that abortion = disabled children. A leap you'd be willing to take if you were trying to push an agenda.
 
I'd like to apologise if anything I've said might convey the impression that Robert Marshall (R-Prince William) should fuck off and die in a fire. I'm simply saying that if he should fuck off and die in a fire this would merely echo the teachings of various public safety films.
 
iapetus said:
I'd like to apologise if anything I've said might convey the impression that Robert Marshall (R-Prince William) should fuck off and die in a fire. I'm simply saying that if he should fuck off and die in a fire this would merely echo the teachings of various public safety films.
But if he buggers off and dies in a fire (for being despicable) won't he go with the smug smile of a man that knows he's following biblical precedent?

Death by Salmon Smothering ought to do it.
 
MrHicks said:
yea the part where he sends BEARS to kill children for laughing at some retards bald head is the definition of LOVE

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"He [Elisha] went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying,
"Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!"
And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys. (New Revised Version) 2 Kings 2:23-24"

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true love folks a just punishment for laughing

The God of the Old Testament is insanely wrathful. Hilariously so in hindsight. Bringing things like this up always irks Christians that mostly ignore it in favor of the New Testament.
 
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