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Disgea 3 announced for PS3, Looks like PS2 game
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Even if the graphics are not up to the standards of other PS3 games I would rather gave PS3 owners the option of playing the game then force their hand by moving it to another system.jrricky said:
Every PS3 game does not need to have stellar graphics in order to be a decent successful game.
cartman414
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Kittonwy said:
Is it just me, or are these two statements somewhat contradictory?
Segata Sanshiro
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OK I JUST EMAILED THEM FIVE TIMES WHAT SHOULD I DO NOWAniHawk said:
Huh? They were one of the companies featured already on the very earliest publisher support lists that floated around long before the PS3/"Revolution" (at the time) launch. You're making a big surprise out of an expected development.404Ender said:
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In fact, I distinctly remember that back then, when I read N1 and Gust on that list, my first reaction was to joke about whether they'd upgrade to SD on PS3 :lol
Segata Sanshiro
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You guys are soooooo lucky I did that.
Not the PS2, but moving it to the Wii would and if they want the game on a "current gen" console that is the only other option.Tellaerin said:
I mean, I love my PS2 but the system is on it's last legs now. I don't really think that producing games for it now is the way to move forward.
So.... I have 3 choices for my response?
A. Zomg, tiny dev house can't make it look like Gears of War or Killzone 2.
B. I'm going to boycott NISA/N1 because I'm too poor/bad at money management to buy a PS3.
C. <System Wars>
Edit D. I know more about business than these guys, check out my sweet high school diploma on the wall.
Clownshoes. Nearly all of you.
A. Zomg, tiny dev house can't make it look like Gears of War or Killzone 2.
B. I'm going to boycott NISA/N1 because I'm too poor/bad at money management to buy a PS3.
C. <System Wars>
Edit D. I know more about business than these guys, check out my sweet high school diploma on the wall.
Clownshoes. Nearly all of you.
Grampa Simpson
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F. I have plenty of money and can buy a PS3 anytime I want to, but I don't want to waste the money on yet another system that I'll only play for maybe 40 hours a year.schild said:
schild said:
Wait, you're seriously suggesting that a fairly niche game would NOT sell better on the PS2 with a 100+ million userbase than the PS3 which is at what, 3 million? Especially considering it as far as we know doesn't take advantage of the PS3 capabilities in any way whatsoever? And considering that the PS3 is backwards compatible? GTFO.
schild said:
How is that any sort of reasonable counter argument to what he said? You're basically admitting you spent $250 on a paper weight, good for you.
Wow. Are you serious? Wow. Even by your stellar logic, when Disgaea 1 was released there was at least a PS2 userbase of 50 million. There's 3 million (approximately) right now. And the PS2 was half of the cost of the PS3 up until a week or two ago on top of that.
50 million. 3 million.
The alligator eats the smaller number.
Segata Sanshiro
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I guess I missed the part where he mentioned the Wii in his response.schild said:
I would like to add
F: I'm glad to see a sequel on whatever system it's on, but I'm somewhat concerned a certain draconian NA branch of a hardware company is going to refuse Disgaea 3.
JoshuaJSlone
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Not PS2, where their fanbase already is?Mrbob said:
This move just seems really weird. It's as if Lufia 3 was announced in 1997 as an exclusive N64 game that used low-color sprites. Though in that case there'd be slightly more reason, with N64 not being backward compatible.
Segata Sanshiro said:
He has mario in a suit as his avatar. His past posts indicate a financial and emotional attachment to the Wii. He didn't need to mention it, his history does it for him. He might as well have come out and said "Port to the Wii confirmed."
As for SCEA, it's highly doubtful they'll block the release of this title. They seem much more open to reason this generation. They MAY however force it to the PSN by episode or allow NISA to release it as a budget title on DVD-9.
Grampa Simpson
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It would be the game for that year. I'd play like 40 hours in a weekend, then have to work for a week, and by the time I got back to it a week later, I'd have forgotten what strategies to use with what character. The game interests me, but other than it, there's not much for me on the system until WKS or FFXIII.Alex said:Then why would you want Disgaea 3?
That's nice. I've maybe played mine for a little over a hundred hours including Zelda, SPM, RE4, and various amounts of different VC games. I'm sure that many have played more than me, and I'm sure there have been plenty of people getting more play out of it. Different strokes for different folks, ya know.schild said:
Grampa Simpson
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You're stalking me. How sweet.schild said:
PepsimanVsJoe
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schild said:
Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Grampa Simpson
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Sorry I didn't respond to this in my last post, but yes, I'd certainly like to see it on the Wii or the PS2. I do in fact like to see projects happen on the Wii. It does in fact help me make money, but in this case my primary concern is that I'd rather not have to lay out $600(or $500 or whatever) plus the cost of a rental to find out if this interests me like the first one did, or if it bores me like Makai Kingdom managed to.schild said:
Big Shirtless Ron
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i think it looks awesome.monkeylite said:
i hope they go crazy on the spell/skill attack effects.
ps. i really hate you all, especially the nintendo fans. we should be celebrating in this thread, not cryin' or wishing for ports to your system of choice.
Juwanna Peezadis
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What the heck? N1, why you make me want a PS3 now? =( I'm too poor for that. Wii port plz.
Big Shirtless Ron
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yep.Linkup said:
Liabe Brave
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bmf said:
But that's a choice you always have to make when new systems are introduced and games come out for them: "Do I want this enough to spend the money?"
Your comments are an understandable indication of disappointment. What's weird is the people in the thread who seem to take it as a personal affront that some company would DARE make a product not tailored to their liking. . .and then wrap their fit of pique in rationalizations like, "Don't they want to make money?!"
Grampa Simpson
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I don't think the sequel was as good of a game, at least it didn't manage to grab my attention past the first 10 minutes. Maybe the niche in Japan noticed the problems with the game and told each other about it on 4chan.mrpeabody said:
cartman414
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Liabe Brave said:
Companies have to make money to continue making games. Which is why most games went to the PS2.
And come on, $500 and up is a steep price to pay for many, especially when the promise of other future games isn't quite as high.
Why not both? Wouldn't be the first time that's ever happened. That way, this whole 'fanboy bias" bull can be dropped because EVERYONE gets to revel in Disgaea love... well, except 360 fans, of course, but I doubt they were expecting this to end up on that platform anyways.bmf said:
A quick glance at GAF can easily tell you that even the most stalwart fanboy thinks PS3's price is a big pill to swallow.Somnid said:
Grampa Simpson
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Both is fine. Hell if they wanted pull an EA and put it on PSP DS and 360 as well that would be fine.Terrell said:
I personally don't see why it isn't going to the 360 and the Wii as well. Given that all three are PowerPC based and have fairly swaky 3d hardware, I would think that they'd pick a middleware vendor and just put it on a middleware platform. Hell. I'm surprised that transgaming isn't trying to put together a OGL -> D3D layer for this type of thing. Maybe they have and I just haven't heard of it.
Liabe Brave
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cartman414 said:
I don't think this game is as risky as some make out. It's clearly low-cost, so their exposure is low. Putting it on Wii would require designing and making a whole new engine; putting it on PS2 would provide a much larger but much more competitive market. The decision is chancy, but I don't think any other platform is an inevitable slam dunk, and Disgaea 3 bombing wouldn't take the company down entirely.
cartman414 said:
PS3 is a hefty chunk of change. But so were the Atari 2600, Saturn, and NeoGeo. As always, weigh your desire for the games against your budget. Sony may have made the decision harder, but that's life.
Liabe Brave
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d[-_-]b said:
That was my entire point. Whether Sony's approach results in complete success or utter disaster, it's no different than any other console. Complaining at bitter length as some have been doing is unproductive and, frankly, boring. I don't go around constantly wailing, "Why can't Radiant Silvergun be ported to PS2?!" and I'd rather not have a thread about a game I'm interested in be buried under like-minded teeth-gnashing.
Disappointment is completely understandable. At times in here, it seems to be bubbling over into entitlement.
cartman414
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Liabe Brave said:
What do you mean by engine? Controls?
Liabe Brave
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cartman414 said:
Yeah, you're totally right. I should've said "GUI", not engine. It's not like that would be very difficult, but given their evident aversion to anything new it might dissuade them.
In any case, I didn't mean for my arguments to point toward PS3 as the only good choice of platform. I don't think it is, and the decision is a risk. Just not such an obviously bad one that it has the potential to utterly destroy the company.
i can't believe i'm saying this, but i'd rather n1 ran the sprites through a 2xsai filter or something -- i don't usually like those filters, but the current look is just JARRING. i feel like i have selective cataracts when i look at that classroom screenshot
Listen, with the ultra uncompetitive JRPG market on the PS3, this game will sell decently well. Think, if PS3 owners only have 2-3 JRPGs to buy, theres a good chance they might pick this up. If they go on the PS2, they're competing with several hundred JRPGs already released on the console.
It's a risk, but I don't think it's without it's merits. If they successfully pull it off, they will establish themselves to many who don't know about them as great JRPG makers...which could potentially prove benefitial in the end.
It's a risk, but I don't think it's without it's merits. If they successfully pull it off, they will establish themselves to many who don't know about them as great JRPG makers...which could potentially prove benefitial in the end.
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