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Big One said:
Yeah Mars Needs Moms is almost Delgo levels of bombitude. God it looked so bad.

MARS...NEEDS MOOOOOOOMMMS!! all day on Nick and CN, goddammit.
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It's worse than Delgo.

$150 million production + $60 million marketing
$6.8 million US opening + $2.1 million foreign opening
 
Salvor.Hardin said:
Could someone please explain the Zemeckis hate? He's a decent director but it seems like everyone in this thread is judging him on films he's produced.
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He tends to not be a good animation director. He is one of my all time favorite live action directors and the way he uses and subtely perfects special effects in his live action does not translate at all to his animated films.

Again, I thoroughly enjoyed Beowulf with the exception of the eyes (Score is briliant), but it would have been so much better if he had just filmed the thing.

I want Zemeckis to be doing non-sequel, non-animated movies that no one actually thinks about. I want another Forrest Gump & Contact from this man.
 
Anticitizen One said:
Zemeckis should either make a proper Roger Rabbit sequel or just retire. Imageworks or whatever his CG company was called sucks so bad.
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I think that most people would say that Zemeckis hasn't made a decent film since Forrest Gump, which makes the idea of him being able to do any justice to a possible Roger Rabbit sequel a rather sketchy one, at best.
 
Oh, while we're at it, let's not forget the horror of elf Steven Tyler.

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EDIT: To be fair, that horrifying poster wasn't the main one for the movie...
 
FoneBone said:
Beowulf wasn't terrible. The mocap let it down horribly, though.
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Yeah. If it was live action it would have been a lot better received, because it was very exciting.

Still too violent though.
 
Oh god, I thought I was safe from that poster after leaving the other thread. And it gets quoted so many times. It's so bad. WTF were they thinking?
 
BertramCooper said:
Not quite as bad as the other one, but still pretty awful.

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The character design is atrocious.
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I'll note that according to reviews, this character has a human love interest in the movie. I am not making that up.
 
JGS said:
He tends to not be a good animation director. He is one of my all time favorite live action directors and the way he uses and subtely perfects special effects in his live action does not translate at all to his animated films.
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A few live-action directors have successfully made the jump to animation. See Wes Anderson and Fantastic Mr. Fox or Gore Verbinski with the recent Rango.
 
What the hell happened to Robert Zemeckis? I used to love pretty much everything he did, minus Forrest Gump.

He was doing great until The Polar Express, at which point he seemed to just go completely out of his mind. Such a shame.
 
Zemeckis really needs to abandon the mo-cap stuff.

They are expensive as shit to produce, most of it looks like garbage, and it really isn't anything remarkable. Woah - it lets Tom Hanks play a little kid!! Big fucking deal.
 
IGotBillySoSpooked said:
Zemeckis really needs to abandon the mo-cap stuff.

They are expensive as shit to produce, most of it looks like garbage, and it really isn't anything remarkable. Woah - it lets Tom Hanks play a little kid!! Big fucking deal.
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I honestly have to say the Tintin movie looks just as uncanny valley as the rest of this stuff so...I don't see how that's going to do any better than these other ones.

Why not just make Tintin live action?
 
G-Fex said:
I honestly have to say the Tintin movie looks just as uncanny valley as the rest of this stuff so...I don't see how that's going to do any better than these other ones.

Why not just make Tintin live action?
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that's happened already, actually. you lose that distinct visual style of the original works.
 
FoneBone said:
Beowulf wasn't terrible. The mocap let it down horribly, though.
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Nah, it was pretty bad when it comes to just basic filmmaking. Honestly, I'm not sure how someone with more than two decades film experience, including several great movies, made something so incompetent. He had absolutely no idea how to move a camera properly in Beowulf. It's one of the big problems with some directors being given partial or full digital tools. Just because you can move a camera in all kinds of ridiculous, unrealistic and nonsensical patterns doesn't mean you should. Beowulf felt like weak cutscenes from a mid-90s video game with the benefit of advanced tech.

PowderedToast said:
that's happened already, actually. you lose that distinct visual style of the original works.
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I'm not yet convinced Spielberg and Jackson's approach is particularly more faithful though, aside from maybe the color scheme.
 
When I emigrated I sold all my 400 DVDs and brought only 2 with me, Hard Boiled and Yellow Submarine. Best 2 movies ever.

I also had Blade Runner and Casino but they were on BD :p
 
XiaNaphryz said:
A few live-action directors have successfully made the jump to animation. See Wes Anderson and Fantastic Mr. Fox or Gore Verbinski with the recent Rango.
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I agree and have no problems with ones making the jump. I like Happy Feet which was by George Miller of all people. I also have faith that Spielberg's movie will be good.

Actually I think Zemeckis would be fine too considering his work on Roger Rabbit. However, his emphasis on the technology was his downfall because his technology was never really up to snuff. No matter how good the tech, bad eyes ruin immersion. PIXAR & Dreamworks movies looked more believeable although more cartoonish.

Beowulf looked like he concentrated on some people more than others and so the effect was even creepier(But still awesome). IMO, he started too early and by the time it was perfected, it was already outdated.
VisionaryQuest0 said:
I always thought Beowulf was frickin badass.

"I AM BEOWUUULLF!!" Ray Winstone +1.
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Agreed.

You can't get much tougher than
cutting your own arm off to rip the heart out of a dragon that happens to be your son.
 
What the fuck at that Mars Needs Moms poster. What is that shit? Does that movie lack an art director, or did he get hit by bus on the way to work?
 
I'm surprised I've never heard of this "Mars needs Moms" movie before. That poster looks absolutely terrible.

And yeah, Beowulf was bad. There was just so much wrong with it. The most memorable scene in the movie years later is when Grendel first appears. The only reason I remember it is because never has a movie hurt my ears and my eyes so bad at the same time.
 
Dan said:
Nah, it was pretty bad when it comes to just basic filmmaking. Honestly, I'm not sure how someone with more than two decades film experience, including several great movies, made something so incompetent. He had absolutely no idea how to move a camera properly in Beowulf. It's one of the big problems with some directors being given partial or full digital tools. Just because you can move a camera in all kinds of ridiculous, unrealistic and nonsensical patterns doesn't mean you should. Beowulf felt like weak cutscenes from a mid-90s video game with the benefit of advanced tech.
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Disagree with that completely. We were watching two different movies if the camera work was the problem. That was the best part (& again the score) and made up to an extent the animation problems.
 
CrazyDude said:
God, it looks like E.T, but with Jamaican stereotypes.
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Thats exactly what I was gonna say :/

Big One said:
Yeah Mars Needs Moms is almost Delgo levels of bombitude. God it looked so bad.

MARS...NEEDS MOOOOOOOMMMS!! all day on Nick and CN, goddammit.
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I wonder if thats how they're trying to sell this.

Try to get this song stuck in your kid's heads so that they force you to take them to see it.
 
As I said in the box office thread, this is great news! Hopefully, it means Zemeckis finally returns to live-action. I can't speak for Polar Express, as I've never seen it (and have no intention to), but Beowulf was painfully boring, and Christmas Carol has some of the creepiest looking humans in any CG film. Gary Oldman looked like a fucking shaved baboon...
 
After seeing the new LA Noire gameplay series yesterday, I have very high hopes for the future of facial motion capture, so long as Zemeckis has nothing to do with it.

For the love of God man, please go back to live action films.

Beowulf would've been bad if it wasn't for this scene
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I'll be honest, what kept me from enjoying Beowulf was pretty much just Ray Winstone's voice (I don't care that the character's face was *vaguely* based on his). It simply did not match the character at all, and bothered me throughout the entire movie.
 
Mars Needs Moms is a horrible title. I'm sure that was the biggest reason it flopped.

Also, Beowulf was pretty good. I liked the twist they put on the story.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
How could anyone see that coming, especially when Zemeckis' last flick had such a strong showing its opening weekend!

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Is there a reason why there's a duplicate image of one of those things on the left and right of the background?
 
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